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    Importance of baskets?

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    I had some really good quality beans and what I was pulling was absolute rubbish... I thought the beans might have been damaged from heat in the post or being stored in my laundry as I know 100% they are fresh.. I was tearing my hair out, trying to pull a decent shot... being a metlicious as I could about dose, distribution & tamp - not 100% perfect, but I can normally get an OK shot with crema thats reddy-brown.

    Anyway, the crap was coming out was under-extracted, cinamon-coloured crema and burnt...

    So then I thought Id change baskets and viola! Reddy-brown crema, thick mouthful and flavours...

    I noticed the second basket which produced better shots has bigger holes, allowing more solids to come through I assume.

    Can anyone explain the logic/theory behind this? The solids coming through are what carry the weight of the body and contain the flavours? Do some beans/blends respond better to different hole sizes in the basket?

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    Re: Importance of baskets?

    I was tearing my hair out, trying to pull a decent shot... being a metlicious as I could about dose, distribution & tamp
    So does that make you a basket case Bon ;D

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    Re: Importance of baskets?

    I had a laugh, good call!

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    Re: Importance of baskets?

    It also depends a lot on what type of machine you are using.

    I only ever used a double basket on my domestic machines, and didnt bother with the single basket at all, and was able to make excellent caffe latte, but only ok espresso.

    And even with my semi-commercial machine, I still use the double basket, but mostly because this conforms to my personal drinking pleasure!

    Also recently upgraded to 9g and 18g baskets (as opposed to the standard 7g & 14g) both at work and at home, and this has made a huge difference to the quality of the coffee I am drinking!

    The thing to remember is 30ml of extraction from a 30sec pour.

    If you can get this happening, you are ahead of the pack already!

    Pat

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    Re: Importance of baskets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bon link=1170313118/0#0 date=1170313118
    I noticed the second basket which produced better shots has bigger holes, allowing more solids to come through I assume.

    Can anyone explain the logic/theory behind this? The solids coming through are what carry the weight of the body and contain the flavours? Do some beans/blends respond better to different hole sizes in the basket?
    Interesting....I was under the impression that smaller holes were better.. *:-/

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    Re: Importance of baskets?

    Interesting discussion...

    I think that smaller holes would require a courser grind due to the "pressurisation" effect of smaller holes in the basket??? Would be interested to see further comments from some pros...

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    Re: Importance of baskets?

    Very fine coffee powder, as opposed to coffee grinds, can come through the basket to give extra flavour to the brew. Youll see evidence of it as dark spotting on the crema.

    --Robusto

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    Re: Importance of baskets?

    I thought about this some more while at work (nothing better to do), and I figured bigger holes would allow you to grind finer, thus exposing more coffee to water opposed to a finer grind? I guess the law of diminshing returns kicks in somewhere thogh?

    Robusto, is that what they refer to as tiger stripes or motting?


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    We changed our baskets this year and shots have improved so much. Im getting a lot more back to back awesome pours which is the so important in the cafe business. Less channelling and pre infusion is a little longer in these baskets. Im using a triple basket i picked up in Seattle. Dosing only around 18 to 19 grams and its sweet. When we use the L.M Swift we dose around 24 grams and thats great too. Also wastage is down with the use of these baskets and they are faster to pack. The triple also lets the puck expand which it doesnt smash on the shower screens as much.

    Sometimes baskets can match your style of making coffee. It might not work for everyone

    Andrew



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