Just joined the forum and looking for some advice on which coffee machine to get as my first?
I'd like something small (space is a premium in the kitchen), is fully versatile and ideally manual. Kind of new to this game, been using percolators for a while, but would be nice to get a coffee machine that can churn out more than one load of coffee before without having to wait for it to cool down.
I would love a Elektra S1 Micro or Micro Casa, but my budget is way smaller. Looking for something around £200 or less. Any suggestions/thoughts welcome.
Hi Chimp, welcome to CS. Interesting to have someone from 'Old Blighty' on board. Tell us a bit about yourself - Age - where do you live - Coffee journey etc.
As Brett says, it would be helpful to know what 200 pounds buys - ie 'half a Silvia' (google a British coffee machine supplier and tell us what price a Rancilio Sylvia)
Seems like its a Breville or a second-hand Silvia, then doesn't it?
Or an aeropress. To the OP, does the budget include money for a grinder? If so, that is going to limit your options a lot more.
Rocky £234. Same company.
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Thanks for your replies. I checked out Rancilio Sylvia it retails for around £400 in the uk, an there aren't any listed second hand on eBay. Budget isn't including a grinder. I need to learn to use the machine first then start to grind after.
You asked for a little info on me, well I recently turned 30 an live in the uk all my life. I work shifts and can't live with out coffee to keep me awake. I resent the prices in coffee shops and for what you get. Also it seems hard to find a decent coffee shop, and I don't particularly like costa, star bucks etc. unless I'm desperate. Not sure what my coffee journey is.
How I got into coffee...
Well once knew a friend of a friend who worked is said coffee shops and he got fed up with the rubbish he had to serve.
He started up his own business and started selling coffee from a mobile trailer in the street. To this day it's been the best coffee I've ever had. He was really passionate about it, it was just good timing/luck that I met him and had a chance to get coffee from his shop. He travelled a lot and sourced his own dedicated supplies and shortly after moved into a shop and everyone in town went to his shop rather than the chains. However he moved away and I've since been trying to find something that compares - I'm yet to find it.
Currently I'm using a Bialetti purculator, with illy coffee. But my frustration with this method is that I have to wait for it to cool before I can make any more.
I need to also find and sample what other coffees are out there and who supplies them and find one that's the nicest on my palette. But I imagine that the taste is a combination of good coffee, a good grind and enough skill to make it. All if which I have yet to learn.
Hope that gives you an idea of where I'm starting from.
Well to help the others out here who can't seem to use a currency converter. 200 pound is about $307 here.
A silvia would be out of the question as they sell for roughly 470pound + shipping.
Also avoid ebay and stick with amazon.co.uk you'll have a better chance at finding something for cheap
After doing research the best machine for your price range would be:
Gaggia Classic RI8161 Coffee Machine with Professional Filter Holder, Stainless Steel Body - 199 pound + shipping.
It's this or a Delonghi machine based upon reviews on the products which are in your price range and sold on amazon. I mention amazon because amazon is king for the UK and US and EU. If we had an Amazon Australia most companies wouldn't exist anymore as most items have free shipping and are dirt cheap.
I know of several Australians who buy from Amazon in the UK, US and EU for various items. It's much safer and cheaper than fleebay.
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Are you in London Confused Chimp? If so there are quite a few decent non-franchised small coffee shops that sell freshly roasted beans (Google Gywilym's Disloyalty Card....a few of the places on this sell small bags of beans / grind) , and I'm sure they'll grind them for you (though they'll warn you that you are better off grinding just prior to brewing).. When you move to a Silvia or similar, you are going to find supermarket ground coffee not very satisfactory I suspect.
Actually your price bracket is such that I personally wouldnt buy anything (especially in view of your not being able to fit a reasonable grinder in the budget with a machine) ....until saving up some more to get something better (much better). I dont see the value in buying low end pump driven machines that dont make commercial style espresso well when you are already using a stove top, which represents dirt cheap budget for excellent espresso style (albeit not commercial style). Best value for money this side of the black stump really.
Stovetop espresso machines are so cheap you can have as many as you like. Buy a second one and if you need to make some more coffee but your first machine hasnt cooled down enough for you to open it up yet, brew with the other. After that, put the first machine in the sink with some tap water and it will cool enough in a short time for you to go again. Or....just put the first machine in the sink with water and let it cool a few minutes. Or, buy a bigger stovetop.....there can be several alternatives based around the same thing.
WRT your comment re microcasa machines. While they have a small following of people that like them, they are not very practical and much better coffee (subject to personal opinion of course) can be had spending less money to buy conventional style semi commercial machines of whatever brand. They may not look as stylish ( again personal opinion), but the coffee & overall level of performance is better.....you only need decide which you prefer, style or coffee!
I have to agree with Fresh_Coffee here. With your budget I would not be looking at an electrical machine at all.
Go for good beans (**NOT SUPERMARKET**) and a good hand grinder and either refine your technique with the stovetop, or go for something like a Presso. I use a hand grinder and Presso at work, and while it doesn't compare to my home machine, it is good enough to beat most of the local coffee shops.