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    Coffee Rooster

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Yeah, it wasn't a typo in the subject line...

    Meet "Chook Chook" the Coffee Rooster!

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    He strolled into the Snobbery about a month ago when I was roasting and well, he likes our garden and has made himself at home.

    Chook Chook meets me when I open the gate in the mornings (for food), wanders around to the roller door moaning at lunchtime (for food) and each evening at about 6pm hops from foot to foot waiting for another half takeaway cup of pellets before roosting in the wood pile down the side of the Snobbery.

    For better or worse he won't eat coffee (green or brown) and apart from what I feed him he gets plenty of bugs in the garden.

    One of our customers picking up coffee this week said he was a "Bar-ooster"

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    Coffee Rooster

    Yeah,
    Nothing like a bit of 'rooting' in the wood pile...

    Lucky bustad

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    of pellets before rooting in the wood pile down the side of the Snobbery.
    Oops, I fixed that typo, ta!

    No girl chook chook yet, that might happen if only to confirm to my neighbours at work that I'm a whacko.

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    And I thought you had the answer to the eternal and deeply philosophical question of; "why did the chicken cross the road?"

    No, not for a coffee.............. NO! It was for the delights of the woodpile!

    Gee, I've got a woodpile..................

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    Coffee Rooster

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    Hey Andy,

    As long as they don't call you a chook plucker... I had a laugh

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    "why did the chicken cross the road?"
    ...it's pretty obvious now it was to find a sucker that was going to spoil it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    ...it's pretty obvious now it was to find a sucker that was going to spoil it.
    with said woodpile? You're not feeding him layer pellets are you?.........;-)

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    Layer pellets among other things...
    These were "extra egg" pellets, I'm looking forward to seeing that happen.

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    Hmmmmmmmm................roostereggs? Maybe a hen in the woodpile would 'do the trick' and keep 'beanie bar-rooster' happy.

    Making eggs, now that'd put a smile on his face and give him something to do, other than scrambling around the snobbery all day!

    Oh dear, is it getting late?
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    Re: Coffee Rooster

    He is very handsome. You have been chosen as a good friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post

    Meet "Chook Chook" the Coffee Rooster!

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Layer pellets among other things...
    These were "extra egg" pellets, I'm looking forward to seeing that happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by chokkidog View Post
    Hmmmmmmmm................roostereggs?

    Andy, You've really got me worried now...

    I can see you buttering us up here with a rather disconcerting trend...

    I've heard the worlds most expensive coffee has something to do with monkeys eating beans and the 'digestive-processed' beans being later collected as monkey- eggs???

    You're not trying some bizarre experiment with a rooster are you? :freaky

    "Rooster Coffee" anyone? :double freaky

    No? How bout a drumstick? :evil

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    Coming soon to beanbay................... Andy's new coffee, Barooster Blend, it's finger lickin' good!

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    roostereggs?
    That's my retirement package if that happens!

    You're not trying some bizarre experiment with a rooster are you?
    Sadly he's got no interest in eating coffee beans so the experiment stopped before it started.

    He is very handsome. You have been chosen as a good friend
    He chose me, he can come and go as he likes but seems to think he's on a pretty good thing here. We can only think he was dumpped in the parklands across from the Snobbery for being too verbal... he chats during the day a bit which is a nice change to industrial noise in the area.

    He is a good looker, I've got no idea what breed he is or what sort of girlfriend(s) to get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    He is a good looker, I've got no idea what breed he is or what sort of girlfriend(s) to get him.
    I think he's the Japanese type known as onagadori or long-tailed chicken.

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    So no Kopi Rooster in the future

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    Could also be a Faverolle, does it have 4 or 5 toes on each foot Andy? Longtail tails drag on the ground but a lot of Favarolle types have feathered feet.
    Photo is of a Favarolle.
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    I think he's the Japanese type known as onagadori or long-tailed chicken.
    Certainly has the same sort of markings, his tail isnt as long as the wiki picture but very similar. I'll see if he will eat sushi.

    Could also be a Favarolle, does it have 4 or 5 toes on each foot Andy?
    He has 3 forward toes, 1 back, and the spur.

    chookchookfoot.jpg

    Looks like he shaves his legs, no feathers there.

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    If the metatarsal spur (the uppermost toe like structure) has a 'toenail' like the other 4 toes, then it's not a spur but a fifth toe.
    If it's just covered in skin, it's a spur and coffee chook is not a Favorelle ( which will have 5 toes, each with a toenail ).
    Academic I know, but the cricket's a bit so so. And I used to keep Welsummers, Brown Leghorns, New Hampshires and Black Australorps , so I'm interested.

    After another look at the original post picture I think it's not a chook rooster but a bantam rooster, a full grown rooster can be very big, whereas this guy is a lightweight, a peaberry.

    My money is now on a breed called a 'Dutch Bantam' , popular for poultry shows, a true bantam and not a mini chook.


    The pic is from gumtree. wikipedia only has a hen.
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    I don't think you've got a metro sexual chook here Andy, you won't have to supply razors, or tweezers and as for sushi...........
    don't forget to leave out the wasabi, or you might have a hostile in the woodpile!

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    I originally called it a bantum but that was just because it was colourful, I thought he was too big for a bantum.
    He's in the wood pile now (bed time) so I'll try and have a closer look at the spur tomorrow.

    The picture you posted looks very much like him, except the legs... totally different. Is that just age?

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    Hhhhmmm....Chook Chook...

    Javaphile readies the smoker....


    Java "Hhhhmmm.....Apple, Hickory, or Cherry....Decisions, decisions, decisions.... " phile
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    I think your chook might use moisturiser.............

    The rough skin on the legs is a probable/possible sign of 'scaly leg mites' which burrow under the scales causing roughness, swelling and a flaky appearance.
    It's a common parasite of chooks and they can get it just about anywhere poultry have been kept or run together, bad infestations are common with insufficient hygiene in too small a run, with old litter. Poor fella. Easy enough to treat apparently, you dunk their legs in a milk carton of cooking oil a few times over a few days. I never had trouble with it. (my chooks, that is!). Thanks to my sister for that bit of info.

    A bit more about the toe count.....
    No bird, of any species, has more than four toes except chickens called Faverolle, Dorking, Sultan, Houden and the non bearded Silky Bantam
    (my mum had those).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    I originally called it a bantum but that was just because it was colourful, I thought he was too big for a bantum.
    Although I said my money is on Dutch Bantam, the more I look, the more I realise that I'm still not convinced. Maybe I'll get my sister to check out the photo.
    Rooster sleuths are on the job. How much do you reckon he weighs?

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    So I'm thinking (other that I'm becoming obsessed), a silver duckwing, Old English Game Fowl, originally bred for fighting, now for showing.

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    Hi Andy, I'm pretty sure that I've been able to narrow it down to a Game Bird rooster, probably Old English, possibly American, possibly Australian Pit. It's also possible that it has some Fowl breed ( the eggs and meat types) in there as well. If it doesn't weigh more than 2.5 kgs and shows some aggression, it's probably pretty pure. When used for showing or illegal fighting they are dubbed, or have their comb and wattle cut off when young.
    Nice to see yours is intact.

    For girlfriends, you can put him with pretty much any Fowl variety for more regular egg production and broodiness ( well, for any egg production really). The colours and marking of any offspring will depend on genetics and what's in the mix.The general type of markings that he has are called 'duckwing' and come in grey, silver, red and golden, being the colour of his hackle and saddle feathers. Duckwing markings are common to many chook varieties.

    If he does turn out to have 5 toenails, then there's only a couple of varieties he could be but the way he stands, with his back at 45* and the fact he's not overly big and heavy shouldered, suggests otherwise.

    Any one else with better or correct info, please post.
    I'm no expert and could be way off the mark and I didn't see him when I was at the snobbery last, even though I went looking ( he was probably in the woodpile ;-) ).
    I just love chooks and wish I could keep some but the neighbours have a bunch and if I did have some they would have gone way past 2nd crack in the bushfires.

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    The build of the bird, the tail and the yellow legs looks similar to how my Welsummer rooster looked, but in a duckwing colouration.
    Duckwing welsummers exist, but are apparently rare.

    I wouldn't recommend a single hen to go with the rooster, he will hassle her too much.

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    Hi taco. You might well be right. I only had welsummer hens but the breeder in Bendigo had a few roosters and although not heavy
    they were pretty big in stature with a broad, fairly flat back.

    I thought chook chook was maybe a little small for a Welsummer, but like I said ......... I'm no expert and happy to be corrected.
    Monogamy is no good for hens.

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    I'm learning a lot more about chooks then I ever thought I needed to know.

    The colours and marking of any offspring will depend on genetics and what's in the mix.
    So the chickens can throw to mum or dad or do they hybrid?

    If it doesn't weigh more than 2.5 kgs and shows some aggression, it's probably pretty pure
    Hmmm... I caught him once (that was funny in itself), he certainly didnt like it much and is still a little timid from the experiance. He now likes to keep a 6 foot gap so I don't really want to upset him again.

    I would guess a couple of kilograms but no aggression.

    I wouldn't recommend a single hen to go with the rooster, he will hassle her too much.
    More than one she-chook-chook?
    Sheeze, how many more do I need?

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    About half a dozen hens ought to do it!
    Chook genetics are pretty complex and various dominant and recessive genes will show up in subsequent generations. They might throw to mum, dad, grandpa, gan gan or anyone else lurking in the family woodpile! You might make a CS hybrid but it would be a fertile hybrid.
    Feather barring, crests, feather colours and patterns, size and shape of the chooks, shaved legs (as you put it!) or hobbit style are all up for grabs when you mix breeds. Skin/feet colour is a doozy and not necessarily breed specific.


    If he is a OE Game rooster, my sister said he won't necessarily be aggressive, if he's on his own, just don't put him with another rooster!
    The weight is right for an OEG.

    Have you seen if he can fly? If he gets a fright he might take off, he'd come back ok if he didn't run into trouble (or find a flock of lonely she chook chooks). Clipping his wing flight feathers would stop that but would hinder escape from foxy loxy.

    Ive seen a full grown fox climb a 6' wire fence like it was a walk in the park. Fortunately, like I said, I saw it, so rescued my chooks from a daylight raid.

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    If you do decide to get some girlfriends for Chook Chook, i would suggest a house where they can be safe at night, and where they can roost (as opposed to roast) at night, and some boxes for nesting and egg laying. Chooks are wonderful to keep and reward you with eggs, manure and friendship

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    Coffee Rooster

    Oh Oh...

    I sense a new forum... ChookSnobs...

    At the Chookery....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ol_Grumpy View Post
    Oh Oh...

    I sense a new forum... ChookSnobs...At the Chookery....
    It can include advice such as "Make sure the roost has reached second cackle before you pullet"
    Coffee2Di4, snak and Yelta like this.

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    That's a hell of a fine looking Rooster.
    In a way, roosters and coffee are complementary - the rooster wakes you up early and you go and get a cup of coffee.
    Are you sure he just "wandered in"?

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    "Chook Chook" has been off colour and out of character for the last week, I knew something was wrong yesterday when he spent most of the day sitting in the garden watching me through the window. He’s been eating less and not that interested in the pellets that he did love so much. Last night he got fed “treats” (fruit, veg etc) and ate a little more but this morning he was in “Chook Chook Palace” laying down, covered in ants, still breathing but couldn’t stand up so I had to put him down.

    Sigh. Yeah, I know he was only a stray rooster but for the last 3 months he has become a part of this place and I got a kick out of him greeting me at the gate each morning all excited that it was fed time and each night on dusk coming around the front of the Snobbery “quietly chatting” for his supper.



    I’ll miss Chook Chook but will fondly remember the handsome feathered dude that wandered into my life 3 months ago and hung around getting spoilt.

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    Aaaawwwww......Poor Chook Chook, may he rest in peace.
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    Coffee Rooster

    RIP :sniff

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    Farewell chook chook.

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    Sorry to hear of his demise.

    Although it is obviously too late, he looks like an Old English Game Bantam. One of my colleagues breeds them for show, and I reckon that's him.

    Cock fighting was outlawed in the UK in the 1830's, and subsequent birds were bred for show (or maybe illegal fighting?). This gave rise to "Modern" and "Old" variants, and I think, the moderns were longer legged. Although cockfighting was outlawed in the UK, it seems our forebears in Australia weren't as civilised. My wife and I have just bought an old house (~1870), which clearly has a cockfighting pit marked on the garden plans from about 1880-1900. Needless to say, it isn't there now, and our birds get to enjoy a peaceful life.

    If ever you want a replacement, shoot me a PM, and I'll see if Rob has any looking to be rehomed.

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    There are times when chickens will just die for no apparent reason.

    I had a couple die overnight in the past, and no amount of head scratching could find the cause.

    Worm powder, clean straw, free of vermin, fresh food and water. Good layers. 2 eggs every 3days.

    Then, one died overnight, the other one followed a month later. Left with 3 layers which did well for some time before they were consigned to the pot 2 years later when they're laying slowed right down.

    Just could not find the cause. RIP Chook Chook.

    I reckon it's time for someone to start a new thread on snobs chooks.

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    Sorry to hear of Chook Chook. May he rest in peace

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    I imagine that these last 3 months have been the best 3 months of his life Andy. Very sorry to hear he's gone.

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    Poor old Chook Chook, I know you will miss him Andy.
    In his coming into your life and his passing maybe he has provided the ultimate answer to the eternal question.

    " Why did the chicken cross the road?"..............
    To be valued as an individual, treated with kindness and respect and have a better life.

    Vale Chook Chook.

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    **watery blurry eyes now, can't read the replies but thanks, now I know why the chook crossed the road.**

    I know I'm a softie, always have been and can name every pet that ever left my side during my time on the planet from Sammy the goldfish when I was 4 to Chook Chook 41 years later. That's just the way it is.

    While roasting today (I've just finished) there were about 3 times during the day that the wind blew the plants in the garden outside the roasting room and I turned expecting to see Chook Chook looking back at me (like he did) it was only for a split second but long enough to then sigh deeply and realise that it was a silly thought.

    I then tried to make sense why this little dude made such a big impact in a short amount of time and I realised that in the last 3 months I've seen more of him than my wife and kids. Yep, I know I spend too much time at work (joys of small business) and I'll plan to change the work/life balance at least a little this year.

    Punchline... death always sucks, whatever form it takes so enjoy each day with the good souls you meet.



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