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    Bench top water filter and chiller advice please

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    I'm after a water cooler/chiller unit that sits on a bench that filters and chills water. I would like this type of unit for a few reasons. The kids and I prefer to drink chilled water rather than than normal tap water. They drink more water if it is visible and in a dispenser, who knows why but probably like fruit cut up on a platter goes quicker than fruit in a fruit bowl. Most importantly, I would like to feed the coffee machine filtered water to reduce scale as much as possible.
    Our water tested soft and tastes alright so I'm not expecting much difference after it is filter. I've looked at Brita jugs but they remain hidden in the fridge so won't get used as much.

    Any recommendations out there for a bench top chiller unit that has filters which remove as much of the scale producing particles as can be expected from a domestic solution. Also, not looking for a plumbed solution.

    Thanks in advance, Ashes

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    I have no recommendations for your unit, but a few bits of information.
    Scale is caused by dissolved minerals that cannot be filtered out 'cause they are not particles. (Unless you go to reverse osmosis and then there are other problems re: coffee.)
    If you water is soft already, then it is not going to scale, so a carbon filter to clean and polish the water is likely all you would need.
    A counter-top refrigerator would probably be expensive.
    Check with Bombora, our friendly sponsor and water treatment expert.

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    I just took my 2nd version of a Brita 3-way tap (no chiller) back to Bunnings as it leaks, water hammers and the water flow has been clamped 75% because it couldn't handle the pressure. And v2 was installed by a Brita plumber. No more of this .... I'll go back to the Brita jug in the fridge.

    Brita was very helpful through these issues and gave me a full refund and are sending me a couple of new jugs.

    Hope you have a better time of it with your selection.

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    Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in. My sister has a brita optimax sitting in her fridge, it holds about 5 and a half litres of filtered water and has a tap that you can use to pour straight into a glass. I love it when I house sit for her as I just have a single glass I use as a 'bottomless cup' refilling it as I run out. In fact this reminds me, I should probably look at getting one myself :P

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    Currently in the market for a new expresso machine and was advised by a retailer that I must fill the machine with softened descaled water.

    Good advice? What are the risks?

    I currently have a ZIP under sink plumbed hot/cold water filter.....about a 4k job. Surely this would be up to the task, no?

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    Unfortunately, no.
    How much you spend on a ZIP is irrelevant. They use overpriced filters that remove sediment and some taste. I threw ours away and replaced it with a $150 filtration unit that works better. Depending on your water supply, which varies enormously in Australia, you "may" need to address the problem of dissolved solids that lead to scale. Have your water tested.
    Brita C150 Coffee Machine Water Filter Kit - Di Bartoli
    If you water is hard, a product like the one above will do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosco_Lever View Post
    Unfortunately, no.
    How much you spend on a ZIP is irrelevant. They use overpriced filters that remove sediment and some taste. I threw ours away and replaced it with a $150 filtration unit that works better. Depending on your water supply, which varies enormously in Australia, you "may" need to address the problem of dissolved solids that lead to scale. Have your water tested.
    Brita C150 Coffee Machine Water Filter Kit - Di Bartoli
    If you water is hard, a product like the one above will do the trick.
    Cheers.

    Hmm, not so sure about all this.

    I checked out your Brita link, as well as a number of other Brita links, and all I see is the same collection of 'marketing speak' without any reference to exact specifications.

    Edit: just found what I was looking for on ZIP web site...

    "The 91241 reduces:

    Chlorine taste and odour
    Particulates as small as 5 micron
    Limescale"

    Sounds like I'm good to go.

    Still, as a matter of interest, wouldn't mind testing water hardness (I'm in Sydney). Any recommended test kits?
    Last edited by webby; 1st May 2013 at 05:08 PM.

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    Test kits like the ones below can be brought from many places:
    Water Hardness Test trips x 10 - Di Bartoli

    As to the ZIP product I have no intention of getting into any sort of discussion as to its merits. There are many filters that will "reduce" limescale. The one I recommended is a type that will soften the water, which is particularly important if you have hard water (SA and WA). No knowledge of Sydney water. There are other ways to reduce scale, but I cannot be bothered posting them as the resident gurus will find some obscure reference on the interweb, and poo poo first hand evidence.

    Best advice is to speak to a reputable establishment with first hand knowledge of the water in your area. I use a two stage filter system, with a sediment and a carbon filter. my replacement filters are $20 in total. They do the same job as the ZIP. Water in my area is excellent. If your water is not too hard (test it) then the ZIP filter will address the taste, and you should be fine.

    For more comprehensive data, research how limescale is formed, and how to rectify it. I lived in SA for many years and have seen what scale does, both from tap and bore water. Carbon filters will not remove scale.

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    I have a sunbeam chiller filter sitting on my bench, it uses brita cartridges. it's good for the exact purpose mentioned in the OP - and that is for drinking chilled water.

    But for a coffee machine, I have an everpure 4H cartridge filter plumbed into the cold water line under the sink, feeding the ECM. There is no other way to deliver properly filtered water, short of forking out huge $ for R.O. which is a waste of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webby View Post
    Currently in the market for a new expresso machine and was advised by a retailer that I must fill the machine with softened descaled water.
    I'd just like to clarify that water does not contain 'scale', ergo you can't descale it. Scale is the solid that precipitates out as a result of boiling or evaporating away water containing dissolved solids.
    Descaling is the removal of scale which has already deposited on a surface (i.e. your boiler).

    Carry on... :sly:



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