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    "Professional baristas with borderline OCD"

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    This in todays SMH Why are we so obsessed with coffee?

    Loved this sentence,

    "The unfortunate thing here is that I only like the taste of fancy espresso coffee, made by professional baristas with borderline OCD. I dislike instant coffee, and even the stuff made in plungers tastes sour and bland to me. Worse still is the drip-filter stuff they drink in America, which tastes of drab misery."

    Though he lost me with this,

    "get a home espresso machine – some of the pod ones produce surprisingly good results, and are very easy to use."

    His math's may cause some to reflect on their spending habits, 2.5 coffee's a day = $3193.75 per year.
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    "Professional baristas with borderline OCD"

    $4.375/coffee? I'm guessing that's an average of sorts, but it seems pretty high. Perhaps it includes the fancier $5-6 pourovers/cold drips too.

    Personally I'm still waiting to try a good pod machine. I've had brews from three models so far, and they were all equally mediocre!

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    "DYI Expresso, the way to go. After 10 years I have perfected my skill and enjoy barista quality coffee at home. The amount people spend at cafes could pay their home loans off earlier. Thing that amuses me is milk coffees after midday and the silly coffee art."
    CommenterRodney the toff Location Brighton Date and time April 19, 2013, 5:02AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by fruity View Post
    $4.375/coffee? I'm guessing that's an average of sorts, but it seems pretty high. Perhaps it includes the fancier $5-6 pourovers/cold drips too.
    Not sure how you get $4.375/coffee Fruity, I just ran his numbers and it comes to $3.50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve82 View Post
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    Thing that amuses me is milk coffees after midday and the silly coffee art."
    CommenterRodney the toff Location Brighton Date and time April 19, 2013, 5:02AM
    While I'm not big on coffee art I don't feel it's silly, simply an effort to offer something above and beyond a cappuccino with sprinkles.
    Some of the artists are quite talented.

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    Agreed Yelta. The ability to do good art is more a result of perfect milk texture.
    There is a lot of skill required in achieving good milk 100 or 200 times a day, so I'm
    quite happy to see consistent, quality pour art coming from a barista's
    hand.... it shows not only that they care about presentation but they care about their craft.

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    "Professional baristas with borderline OCD"

    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Not sure how you get $4.375/coffee Fruity, I just ran his numbers and it comes to $3.50.
    $3193.75/365/2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fruity View Post
    $3193.75/365/2?
    $3193.75/365/2.5/$3.50.

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    Why 2.5 - the $3193.75 is for 2 coffees per day. $3193.75/365.25/2 = $4.372 per coffee. I'm guessing this... ""The unfortunate thing here is that I only like the taste of fancy espresso coffee, made by professional baristas with borderline OCD." might have something to do with the price - sounds like someone who evaluates their drink by the yuppiness of the establishment.

    Before I got my machine I was looking at the pod machines - you can get DIY pods - basically a pod and cover and you grind your own or fill it with your choice then pod it. Looking at the prices for the kits I figured I could buy fresh beans for around the same price, so by getting a proper espresso machine (and I know some might argue that point ) I halved the cost.



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    While the author says that he's already had 2 coffees 'today', he says the drinks an average of 2.5 coffees per day, not 2. Hence Yelta's calcs look right to me.

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    Ummm, perhaps you guys are reading a different article, for the benefit of those who have not clicked on the link, in the article the author clearly states,

    "So, hereís a bit of maths, which I can do because Iíve already had two coffees today. I drink approximately 2.5 coffees a day, since I have fewer on weekends and donít always have two in the morning. I generally pay $3.50 per coffee, because I go to swanky coffee shops. Multiply that out by 365 days and you get..."

    Not sure where the figure of 2 cups per day came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    While the author says that he's already had 2 coffees 'today', he says the drinks an average of 2.5 coffees per day, not 2. Hence Yelta's calcs look right to me.
    Thanks Barry, was starting to question my ability to comprehend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post

    Not sure where the figure of 2 cups per day came from.
    It might be at the end of the first post in this thread :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    It might be at the end of the first post in this thread :wink:
    Thanks for that, my mistake, correction made.

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    "Professional baristas with borderline OCD"

    I think if you can be bothered filling the pods yourself with decent beans, you may as well skip that step and just use a real machine.

    I can see the convenience/speed/space advantage of the pod machines, but as far as I can tell they all taste like rubbish. I'd be interested to try a "fill-your-own" pod though, just to see if it's the coffee or the machine that produces such poor results!

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    I agree fruity, which is why I looked around for an espresso machine I could afford. Also, trying to grind just enough for a pod would be problematic, although it might have been easier with a hand-driven one - never used one of them so i don't know if amount is more adjustable.

    It would also be a major PITA filling one each time and sealing it just to have a fresh coffee. And pre-filling for the day would seem to defeat the purpose of having fresh ground pods.

    Got a friend with a pod machine and (*looks around for eavesdroppers*) the coffee was pretty much crap, so briefly the idea of DIY offered possibilities but with 100 empty pods/caps being around $40 and then having to buy the grinder and the coffee as well, it isn't actually that economic.

    Plus the pods I saw weren't ones that fitted the el cheapo pod machines - so upwards of $150 for machine, plus about $60 per 60 cups (60 because at 16gm ground coffee per shot (for me) that's about 60 cups from a kg of beans, so 2/3 of $40 for pods, and a kg of fresh beans...) With an espresso machine and grinder (which I would need anyway for the DIY pods) my 60 cups cost soon catches up to the ongoing extra for the pods.

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    If you're fresh-grinding your coffee, there's no real time-saving using a pod machine, is there?

    Whatever his failings, the writer gets the thumbs up from me for referencing Monkey Magic.

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    Buying a pod machine, then a decent grinder to enable you to root around filling yer used pods, seems pretty arse up to me.

    Why not buy a decent machine and grinder from the get go, oh yeah, I forgot like inkjet printers, pod machines are cheap, they get ya with the outrageously priced ammo for the bloody things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Buying a pod machine, then a decent grinder to enable you to root around filling yer used pods, seems pretty arse up to me.

    Why not buy a decent machine and grinder from the get go, oh yeah, I forgot like inkjet printers, pod machines are cheap, they get ya with the outrageously priced ammo for the bloody things.
    Yep, make the consumables specialised (or at least make some consumers believe they are specialised) and get your margin that way. I once bought a 2nd printer from Target as it was cheaper than replacing the inks.

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    It's the Ford principle made profitable - Ford once said, (approximately) "guarantee me the sole provision of parts and I will give the cars away." RMIT once (maybe more often) built cars from spare parts and the cost was more than 3 times the cost of buying a car from the dealer, even without discounts on the car.

    But yes, if you start filling pods the whole point of using a pod machine gets lost, so you get stuck with inferior coffee. And weak - a school I was computer tech at had them and I'd use two strongest ones to get something I could taste. I don't think I made as bad a cup even with my 4yo, plunger, preground, Coles coffee that I made my first cup at home with...

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    Not to mention the issue of the aluminium waste, if you're into the ethics of your consumer habits.

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    2.5 coffees a day is still only pretty moderate consumption if you ask me...

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    I do 3 double shots and thought I was light on. Mind you that's compared to taking a drip filter (8 cup size) to work back in the 90's and doing 2 loads a day... and I drank probably 5 of them out of each load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Loved this sentence,

    "The unfortunate thing here is that I only like the taste of fancy espresso coffee, made by professional baristas with borderline OCD."
    Barista; OCD...Synonymous are they not?


    ...and not trying to get into a chest thumping competition here, but I have to dial in 4 different grinders of a morning so I usually am already on 4 shots before the doors open at 6 am, needless to say I have many more throughout the rest of the day; and as of this week now have a beautiful giotto sitting on my bench at home so that with further extend the consumption I imagine. So yeah, 2.5 doesn't really weigh in on my calendar.

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    There's a reason I was so glad to find Decaf WOW...

    The flipside is that since I now don't have to limit myself to a few doubles a day I'm making 6+ a day plus a few for my girlfriend so the cost benefit is really out the window...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caneurysm View Post
    Barista; OCD...Synonymous are they not?


    ...and not trying to get into a chest thumping competition here, but I have to dial in 4 different grinders of a morning so I usually am already on 4 shots before the doors open at 6 am, needless to say I have many more throughout the rest of the day; and as of this week now have a beautiful giotto sitting on my bench at home so that with further extend the consumption I imagine. So yeah, 2.5 doesn't really weigh in on my calendar.
    4 grinders :-P I'm getting acid reflux just thinking about it.



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