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    Smoking Snobs?

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    Im not, but the smoking doco on the SBS is on and Im watching.
    One sample smoker said he loves a coffee then a smoke in the morning.
    It warps the palette I would think, but that doesnt mean its not just another aspect of "personal taste"!

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    I tried smoking for a few weeks over 30 years ago (typical teenager - the smoking, not the two weeks bit).
    I tried a few different brands of cigarettes and cigars.
    They all had different tastes, so I can see where they are coming from.

    However, reformed smokers I have known all comment about their newly recovered sense of taste.

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    I smoked for a few years on and off. Than, as a nursing student, I looked after a patient with chronic obstructive airways disease and decided that I didnt want to carry an oxygen tank with me everywhere I went just to be able to breathe, or be unable to even get out of bed without puffing and panting and struggling to catch my breath.

    Gave up mighty fast (with the help of influenza).

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    Smoking = YUCK! The mere mention of Smoking and Coffee is an insult to our wonderful drink.

    IMHO of course ;-)

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    I used to smoke for a long time. 20 years.
    Yes it distorts the taste buds, but it is a constant distort.
    EG: You get used to it always tasting that way.
    I would say it mutes the taste of things. They still taste the same, but less strong.

    Its only when you give up, that you realise how much of the taste it was masking. Well, in my case and a few others Ive spoken to anyway.

    The other thing you notice when you give up smoking, everyone around you STINKS!

    Smoking kills the sense of smell (which is obviously connected to the sense of tatse) a lot more.

    Seriousy, taking public transport after giving up smoking was nearly enough to make me take it up again.

    Smokers become oblivious to their smoky scent.
    Garlic eaters, non-bathers, perfume offenders all do the same!

    Of course, its worse if you have someone who combine multiple offences!

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    I love a good smoke and coffee with mates...I should quit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes link=1173613122/0#5 date=1173675256
    I love a good smoke and coffee with mates...I should quit
    Eh..... guess I must emmmm .... must confess.... phew said it!!!

    Me too.... but been too many years now Im afraid.....

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    Ive been off and on for 3 years....I can quit if I want to. Kind of hard when your girlfriend is a chain smoker too

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    OMG JabaB, you may as well keep your beans in the freezer for a year for all the difference youre going to notice. *:o ;)

    Wushoes, the solution is simple: Get a new girlfriend. ;D

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    My sentiments exactly Sparkly.

    Ive never smoked, hate the thought of people putting that putrid pollution down their lungs, and therefore everyone within 50 metres of them. It follows them around. You can always tell if someones smoked within the last 30 minutes if they are close enough. You can smell the smoke trying to escape the lifts at work after people have gone outside for their little puff.

    As above, surely this isnt good for ones taste buds ..... if its that bad for ones lungs ......

    enough said.

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    I guess weve flushed out a couple of smokers with this thread. The question is now what do we do with them?

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    Belinda,

    Im sure it does affect ones taste - to some extent..... but as our senses are logarithmic ..... the much stronger aroma and possibly taste..... is placed in the background (which is why smokers cant smell other smokers like the non smokers can - and also why reformed smokers are so sensitive to it......)

    Just remember in its day (dare I say in my day!) it was just as social as having a great coffee is today..... and if you didnt enjoy a cigarette you were a social leper.

    God forbid one day someone finds out coffee is bad for us!! - you never know it could happen..... its so far made smoking a totally antisocial habit, alcohol is now coming a close second...... and all those free radicals in coffee due to the roasting process.... :P

    I think Ill go slash my wrists now. :( :(

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    As a sparky Im sure you could devise some sufficiently charged deterrent device that detects smoke and issues a low voltage response. . .

    Pavlov, I tell you! Look to Pavlov!

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    Hold on about the alcohol. Maybe bad alcohol, like XXXX, but lets keep the good stuff. Youll be prying the black sambucca out of my cold dead hands.

    What I hate most about smoking is the effect it has on others. Its very invasive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel link=1173613122/0#12 date=1173677316
    As a sparky Im sure you could devise some sufficiently charged deterrent device that detects smoke and issues a low voltage response. . .

    Pavlov, I tell you! Look to Pavlov!
    I think youll want a high voltage/low current response... like the cat-zapper 2000 I had on the books once to deter the neighbours cat from entering our house, stealing our cats food and pissing on our rugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky link=1173613122/0#13 date=1173677519
    What I hate most about smoking is the effect it has on others. Its very invasive.

    Exactly what I was on about Sparky. I dont really care that it makes peoples lungs implode.
    Thats their bad luck. They chose to smoke.

    But when if affects everyone else around them who dont smoke ..... thats what has made it so anti social now.

    Each to their own I say. As long as they keep it to their own.

    enough said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky link=1173613122/0#13 date=1173677519
    Hold on about the alcohol. Maybe bad alcohol, like XXXX, but lets keep the good stuff. Youll be prying the black sambucca out of my cold dead hands.

    What I hate most about smoking is the effect it has on others. Its very invasive.
    Yep, I agree with that and try to ensure Im not near other people..... If you only kill yourself through your own stupidity then thats your problem.... ::)

    But consume alcohol ..... and you can kill other people also (look at alcohol related road accidents). Either the intoxicated person kills or injures someone else.... or by encouraging others to "have just one more" contributes to someone else doing the same.....

    Dont get me wrong - I enjoy a drink or two (used to be a lot more) especially sambucca ...... ;)

    But it is starting to be the next big "social" problem..... and then theres fast food, trans fats etc, etc.... :-/ :-/ :-/

    Even breathing is lethal .... Statistically there is a 100% correlation between people who breath and death..... ;D ;D ah better stop then..... but wait - that causes death as well..... drat!

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    Re: Smoking Snobs?

    I must add here that every time I have seen JavaB have a smoke he has wandered outside some distance from where others are and smoked quietly to himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaB link=1173613122/0#11 date=1173677206
    God forbid one day someone finds out coffee is bad for us!! - you never know it could happen.....

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    :o :o :o You mean coffee is GOOD for you? *Whos been misleading me all this time. *Why, I even have to lie to my mother, telling her I have just one or two a day. *:(

    --Robusto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes link=1173613122/0#7 date=1173675754
    Ive been off and on for 3 years....I can quit if I want to.
    Obviously you can. Youve proved it again and again. *;)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky link=1173613122/0#13 date=1173677519

    What I hate most about smoking is the effect it has on others. Its very invasive.
    100% agree!!!!

    I had a discussion with someone (a smoker) here at work and his comment blew me away. It was, "I have the right to smoke around non smokers and take their clean air away"... I was disgusted! This was in response to my comments "What gives you the right to take AWAY my clean fresh air?"

    Reality is, Smokers are a minority now... thank God...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaB link=1173613122/15#16 date=1173678434
    But it is starting to be the next big "social" problem..... and then theres fast food, trans fats etc, etc.... :-/ :-/ :-/
    Starting? Alcohol already is a social problem.... Going to a New Years Eve in Sydney City is living proof - the behaviour is appauling! All because they are full of the stuff... What gets me is the Police will always say "Oh, the revellers were well behaved this year"... What planet are they on??...

    Dont get me wrong, I enjoy a quality Red but alcoholism - just plane stupid and irresponsible! Its almost as bad a Renta-Crowds demonstrating when Dick Chaney was in Sydney.... Revoke there dole I say!!! :-)... Ops... off topic... sorry ;-)

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    I wonder if they declared their income to Centrelink?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcstolk link=1173613122/15#20 date=1173745089
    I had a discussion with someone (a smoker) here at work and his comment blew me away. It was, "I have the right to smoke around non smokers and take their clean air away"... I was disgusted! This was in response to my comments "What gives you the right to take AWAY my clean fresh air?"
    You could probably make a case for personal assault against someone with that attitude, given the recent changes to relevant laws in some states,

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    I heard a story years ago about a girl that kept taking breaks from work every few hours of about 15 minutes at a time.
    Shed go for a walk or have a coffee or something like that.

    It soon came to the attention of management and she was asked to explain herself regarding the unauthorised absences.

    She pointed out that she was merely take the same amount of time as the smokers, who also were disappearing several times a day for some time.
    She said shed stop leaving her post if they did.
    What she didnt like was taking up their slack.

    Management backed down.

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    Yep....coffee runs are the 21sy century ciggie breaks slowing productivity says one radio advert

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    But the productivity picks up once the caffeine hits their system, so it evens out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal link=1173613122/15#23 date=1173765343
    Quote Originally Posted by marcstolk link=1173613122/15#20 date=1173745089
    I had a discussion with someone (a smoker) here at work and his comment blew me away. It was, "I have the right to smoke around non smokers and take their clean air away"... I was disgusted! This was in response to my comments "What gives you the right to take AWAY my clean fresh air?"
    You could probably make a case for personal assault against someone with that attitude, given the recent changes to relevant laws in some states,

    Mal.
    Yes, but I would have lost my job... nevertheless, his character was revealed and resultant fruit of it is evident today.

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    At times (not everyday), Ill have a 20min coffee break... and "refuse" to feel bad about it. I see the same smokers at least 5 times a day head outside with there cancer sticks... no-one questions them...!! Apparently its there right to have a cancer stick when they do!

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    Re: Smoking Snobs?

    Cant resist jumping in..... in my role (pre retirement) as a senior manager (and a smoker)....

    ALL staff (smokers, coffee addicts, soapy addicts, "slackers" or just "normal" employees).... should take a break every 45 minutes...

    The adult attention span is just that .... 45 minutes after which productivity, creativity and the ability to concentrate drops appreciably. Add to that the fact that a significant percentage of people do screen based work, which, for OH&S reasons, requires a break to prevent eye strain and RSI.....

    So having a break is actually beneficial and recharges the batteries in all sorts of ways...... and that break doesnt have to be for a cigarette.....

    And most employees (except soapy addicts and "slackers") dont actually "switch off" during the break either still thinking about, even discussing, work related issues.

    Its just a pity more places of employment arent enlightened and that their bosses act more like "Scrooge"..... turning them into sweat shops! - especially today where people are spending more and more time at work....

    My 2 cents worth.

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    Tai Chi break anybody?

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    Re: Smoking Snobs?

    When I worked on a Help Desk we got a new 2IC who started getting narky on lunch breaks.
    Apparently some people were taking a few minutes more than their hour occasionally.

    He judged the time by when they logged off and on to their phones.

    To make a point, I tried logging off to the second.
    Day 1 - I missed by a second or two one way.
    Day 2 - I missed by a second or two the other way.
    Day 3 - Spot on; 1 hour exactly. So I made some smart ar**ed comment to him about not taking too long for lunch knowing full well hed check.

    He lightened up a bit about lunch breaks after that but I seem to remember at one stage he got funny too on toilet breaks.

    Some people are just a PITA and should not be in management.

    Quote Originally Posted by grendel link=1173613122/30#30 date=1173831411
    Tai Chi break anybody?
    Ive actually done that. Well karate anyway (same thing).
    Found an empty meeting room and run through a kata or two to release stress and clear the mind.
    Only takes a few minutes.
    Quicker than going out for a coffee.

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    Well, if addicted smokers are not allowed to smoke in the building, AND it is still not illegal to smoke, then I think the going out for a break is acceptable. It should not be carte blanche though. Any managers who are truly concerned about it will do something about formalising the number of breaks people have.

    However, I do think that smokers are like any other sub-group in society. Some try to be considerate, some are conciencious and some are just slack pri*ks.

    Slack pr*ck syndrome is by no means unique to smokers. I have worked with people who look great on paper, but a close look shows real issues.

    EG: One person I worked with a few years back was always in early, put in long hours, accrued flex time or similar. But when you looked closely, they were actually LESS productive than others. Person in question would get in at 7:30 each day. Eat breakfast at desk (using the milk supplied for tea and coffee), read paper and essentially do no work until around 09:00.
    10:00 - 20 minute coffee break with 3 others ("Ive been in since 7:30 you know!")...

    and so it went on. Accrued enough time for a day off every 2 weeks.

    I didnt really blame the person in question, I blamed the manager of the area. He either was clueless, careless or both.

    I think most managers just decide that trying to micro manage break times is not worth the grief.



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