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    Coffee as a cure for obesity

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    I'm currently in Bundaberg which I'd previously heard was the obesity capital of Australia, and when I got here I realised it's true. (It's actually quite shocking)

    So it got me thinking, maybe good coffee is the cure to Australia's growing obesity problem!

    Let me explain. The coffee here sucks, so there isn't much of a coffee culture, compared to our bigger cities. Not really much different to most Australian towns.

    So what do people drink instead of coffee - sugary drinks!

    Now if they only had access to great coffee, as we generally do in the capital cities, then they'd be more inclined to drink coffee and would reduce their intake of sugary drinks and this wouldn't become obese, or at least as obese.

    And yes I know a typical takeaway latte has about 250+ calories, but those calories are a damn sight healthier than those found in sugary drinks.

    QED!

    BTW I'm being only half tongue in cheek, half serious.

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    Perhaps there is a causation between average income level and quality coffee, (which, in combination with other factors, results in a correlation between good coffee and lower obesity). There is a strong link between average income and obesity.

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    Call me simplistic, but I feel the "cure" for obesity is often less cake and more exercise.

    When someone's a skinny (physical) weakling, you don't talk about "curing their condition", you say "Well if you want to be physically stronger, go work out some."

    You're right about sugary drinks, but coffee isn't a specific solution any more than water, tea, milk or any other alternative drink is. It's also important to remember obesity is often something that begins in childhood, when coffee isn't something that kids see as an alternative to soda.

    MrJack, there might be a correlative relationship, but I think you're struggle to show causality. I think there has been shown to be correlation between socioeconomic status and fast-food consumption.

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    The trouble with causation with something like this is that there are so many interrelated factors.

    But I don't think it would be too hard to show that cafes which have a dedication to good coffee are attracted to places with higher disposable income. Which would be causal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragunov21 View Post
    Call me simplistic, but I feel the "cure" for obesity is often less cake and more exercise.

    When someone's a skinny (physical) weakling, you don't talk about "curing their condition", you say "Well if you want to be physically stronger, go work out some."

    You're right about sugary drinks, but coffee isn't a specific solution any more than water, tea, milk or any other alternative drink is. It's also important to remember obesity is often something that begins in childhood, when coffee isn't something that kids see as an alternative to soda.

    MrJack, there might be a correlative relationship, but I think you're struggle to show causality. I think there has been shown to be correlation between socioeconomic status and fast-food consumption.
    The only potential causation that MrJack mentioned was between average income and quality coffee...and that is plausible. He explicitly stated that the quality coffee / obesity relationship was correlative.

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    I know, which means nothing when talking about coffee as a means to reduce obesity.

    *EDIT* I wasn't arguing or anything, just y'know, saying stuff.

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    No worries. The broader correlation that Jonathon noted is something has occasionally struck me when visiting country towns. There's one in inland northern NSW that I spent a few days in, where some of the more generously proportioned locals get a taxi from one end of a pretty modest main street to the other. I thought...there's got to be an espresso machine in this town somewhere.....I eventually found one....by looking through the window of a shop/cafe that had closed down. Lots of omitted variables obviously, and I suspect climate is one of them.

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    But Bundaberg rum is made from cane sugar, surely this is what the locals drink... ... And a coffee could be just the thing to motivate them?!

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    Funnily enough, we were in Bundaberg airport this morning with a few other couples who were in Bundy for the wedding we were up there for, and we were all bitching about the quality of coffee, when one of them remarked that maybe the people of Bundy would be a lot less obese if they had better coffee!

    So I feel a little vindicated in my view, not as ridiculous as I first thought.

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    In fairness to Bundaberg, which certainly doesn't have a monopoly on obesity, great coffee shops are not plentiful anywhere.
    I spend a fair bit of time in Brisbane and have tried dozens of places but find only a small percentage are any good.
    Rockhampton (where I reside) is reported (Morning Bulletin Newspaper - 10Nov'10) to have the most take-away outlets per capita in the developed world, and a major obesity and Diabetes problem.
    I have always regarded Rocky as "Bogan Central" so the stereotype fits pretty well.
    Coffee is huge business in Rockhampton ( there are dozens of coffee shops but only four I would even consider using).
    I do note that the vast majority of take-away coffees seem to be milk-based in large sizes usually accompanied by something unhealthy to eat.
    Another observation is that the best coffee shops have the slimmest patrons. Interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    Another observation is that the best coffee shops have the slimmest patrons. Interesting.
    Yes I'd agree, based on my limited observation, that's quite true.

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    There's an inverse correlation (in developed countries) between weight and affluence, IIRC, so that would make sense.



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