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    Another coffee myth put to bed... ;)

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    About time someone put this back where it belongs. I've been drinking coffee right from my earliest memories when visiting my Dutch Grandparents; never noticed any ill affects back then, and none now either...

    Of course, some family members might disagree but I wouldn't put it down to the coffee...

    Mal.

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    I must say that I'd never realised that the no coffee for kids stuff was due a fear that it would stunt growth. I'd always assumed it was just to sensibly limit the amount of stimulants that kids consumed. Learn something every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    I must say that I'd never realised that the no coffee for kids stuff was due a fear that it would stunt growth. I'd always assumed it was just to sensibly limit the amount of stimulants that kids consumed. Learn something every day.
    My assumption as well Barry, in my day cigarettes were said to stunt your growth.

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    By the time I was 18 I had been chain smoking for nearly 10 years.
    Stunted me to only 6'2"....

    My 13 yo daughter looks me in the eye and my 16 yo son is over 6'4", but I have to admit my 18 yo son only made it to 6'1", so it must just effect the first born....

    Stopped smoking over 20 years ago now, due to low sperm motility. Or they woulda been cut off :eek
    Don't mess with a redhead carrying a carving knife....

    It seems I may carry the 'addictive' Gene, certainly going by the withdrawals I get if I don't get my caffeine 'fix'. Lately I've been trying some Indo beans that have such an intense dry aftertaste, that I'd swear I'd just had a smoke. : evil
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    I've been drinking coffee regularly since I was around 9-10 years old. I would often have a cappuccino with my mom when she took me shopping as a kid. I used to make stovetop coffee for her and myself with a stovetop steam wand to froth the milk. Ever since then coffee has been a staple for me, whether as my misspent youth drinking six to seven cups of crappy instant a day or through to now where I try to limit myself to just three a day of moka pot and grinds from a shop down the road.

    I'm 6'2" tall. My mother and two sisters are tiny and even my dad is only 5'11". So if anecdotal evidence counts, it seems to have spurred my growth, not stunted it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThankDog View Post
    I've been drinking coffee regularly since I was around 9-10 years old. I would often have a cappuccino with my mom when she took me shopping as a kid. I used to make stovetop coffee for her and myself with a stovetop steam wand to froth the milk. Ever since then coffee has been a staple for me, whether as my misspent youth drinking six to seven cups of crappy instant a day or through to now where I try to limit myself to just three a day of moka pot and grinds from a shop down the road.

    I'm 6'2" tall. My mother and two sisters are tiny and even my dad is only 5'11". So if anecdotal evidence counts, it seems to have spurred my growth, not stunted it
    Dads only 5' 11'' eh? just a midget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Dads only 5' 11'' eh? just a midget.
    He's Dutch-German, so... jah!

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    Never heard that one, but the coffee is a diuretic myth that the "top personal trainers" keep preaching shits me to tears

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    What do "top personal trainers" know anyhow.
    They should get a life.
    Drink more water.

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    Refraining from enjoying coffee doesn't make you live longer; it just feels like it.

    Another one is the 'lack of or disturbed sleep' if you drink coffee at night. I would have to say from my epxerience that this is true with instant coffee - if I drank an instant (back in the day ) within a couple of hours of bed I would have issues getting to sleep. But I could happily have an espresso with dinner with no such issues. I can't say with the instant now (haven't had one since I got my machine) but I often have a coffee as late as 9 or 10 at night and sleep well.

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    JM, I think the caffeine and sleep issue is different for everybody. My mum has a two teaspoon dose of instant just before she retires and never complains about lack of sleep.
    If I have an espresso shot after 7 pm......... my sleep is cactus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chokkidog View Post
    JM, I think the caffeine and sleep issue is different for everybody. My mum has a two teaspoon dose of instant just before she retires and never complains about lack of sleep.
    If I have an espresso shot after 7 pm......... my sleep is cactus.
    Its is very much an individual thing Chokkidog, neither my wife or I experience problems sleeping if we have coffee in the evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post
    Another one is the 'lack of or disturbed sleep' if you drink coffee at night. I would have to say from my epxerience that this is true with instant coffee - if I drank an instant (back in the day ) within a couple of hours of bed I would have issues getting to sleep. But I could happily have an espresso with dinner with no such issues. I can't say with the instant now (haven't had one since I got my machine) but I often have a coffee as late as 9 or 10 at night and sleep well.
    Ah, now this is something I actually know a bit about, having a sleep disorder and whatnot

    It's not about getting to sleep, it's about disturbed sleep. Sleep is actually quite complex. There are several stages of sleep, all of which are vital for not only brain health but the entirety of your physical well-being. Caffeine can disrupt the transitions between those stages and thus disturb the cycles you normally go through within any period of deep sleep.

    It takes, apparently, roughly six hours for most people to metabolize the caffeine in a regular cup of coffee. So really, you should leave at least six hours between your last drink and going to sleep. Then again, there are many things which disturb that cycle and caffeine isn't the worst of them so YMMV. But never, ever, undervalue sleep. It has far-reaching effects on your health that are not always immediately manifest and are rarely obviously related. Low mood, poor concentration, organ function, memory, cognitive ability, reflexes and even life-expectancy all are affected by the quality of your sleep.

    And you don't want to end up a grumpy-bum like me, do you?

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    Whose a grumpy- bum?

    My ears were burnin....

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    Another consideration is single shot of espresso has 40mg of caffeine in it while a 180ml cup of instant is more like 100mg.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Javaphile View Post
    Another consideration is single shot of espresso has 40mg of caffeine in it while a 180ml cup of instant is more like 100mg.


    Java "If you're not twitching you're not drinking enough coffee!" phile
    Really?

    I've never gotten a buzz off of instant but I do off of even singles of moka pot, and doubles of espresso. Maybe psychosomatic? I'm definitely psycho so the somatic is probably a freebie
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    Tolerance of caffeine ( and for that matter, most substances) seems to be about your individual predisposition and metabolism.
    Several decades working in the public service provided an opportunity to observe how others dealt with my favourite vice (coffee, you fool)
    I noticed that very relaxed personalities seem to be able to tolerate high doses of caffeine whilst high-anxiety people often seem to tolerate it poorly.
    I've worked with people who drank up to 8 cups a day without any noticeable behavioural change whereas after three I would be bouncing off the ceiling and talking at 1000 words a minute.



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