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    Coffee cart help!!!!

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    Hi guys and girls,

    How are we all. I'm new here, and thought I'd could get some great ideas and help off you all.
    been going google crazy on the net, doing homework for a coffee cart biz.

    I live on the central coast, NSW been working with coffee for over 12yrs. The past 3yrs I've been working in bottle shops and love to get back into the world of coffee. I have a machine at home but nothing flash.

    Ok where to start, my questions are:
    1) coffee carts do you need to get council approval to use them at events/markets/sport grounds etc..
    All I could find through Google was yes, and cost was $300 for 12mths is this right?
    2) thinking about building a small cart would it work out cheaper? I've seen some websites and been on ebay searching found a few.
    3) if there is no water supply for the coffee machine, can you buy a couple of water tanks and hook the hoses to them? Seen a pic on Instagram (presscoffeecarts) in addition do you have to have a sink for the cart.
    4) 2group or 3group coffee machine for weekend work at markets? I was thinking a 2group! But not sure on what brand would be ideal for the cart and $$$$ wise
    5) is it ideal to buy a generator if so what type. Most events have power supply for you
    6) Coffee, there are so manly brands out there what to choose. And for the right price

    so many questions I have rattling around my head
    It would be great if someone could lend me some ideas/answers

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaneo View Post
    ...coffee carts do you need to get council approval to use them at events/markets/sport grounds etc...
    Hello Kaneo,

    I would advise that you speak with your local council which will be able to give you a list of requirements and charges for coffee carts (if they allow them at all). Jerrybuilt will rarely comply, so best you're well informed before you embark on something unsuitable. You will most likely require a food safety qualification.

    Tanks are ok for carts, but you will require hot and cold running water and hand wash facilities.

    Machines- You will have trouble getting 15A power for a 2 group at many events. 3 group are generally 20A or more.

    Due diligence and good luck.

    Chris
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    Kaneo,

    Welcome to CoffeeSnobs.

    You will find a lot about coffee carts at this site by putting those words into the Advanced Search box at the top right of this page.

    All the best,

    Barry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry_Duncan View Post
    Kaneo,

    Welcome to CoffeeSnobs.

    You will find a lot about coffee carts at this site by putting those words into the Advanced Search box at the top right of this page.

    All the best,

    Barry
    Thanks Barry will do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    Hello Kaneo,

    I would advise that you speak with your local council which will be able to give you a list of requirements and charges for coffee carts (if they allow them at all). Jerrybuilt will rarely comply, so best you're well informed before you embark on something unsuitable. You will most likely require a food safety qualification.

    Tanks are ok for carts, but you will require hot and cold running water and hand wash facilities.

    Machines- You will have trouble getting 15A power for a 2 group at many events. 3 group are generally 20A or more.

    Due diligence and good luck.

    Chris


    thanks talk_coffee will keep that in mind and will got onto the council. Cheers again
    do you know any coffee machines in mind that would suit?

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    Hi Kane,

    i started yes my own Coffee Cart this summer in noosa and it has been the best thing I've ever done. It's quite profitable especially solo. Noosa council is quite leniant with rules but check with you local council health and safety department.

    good luck dude. It's a blast.
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    Hi all just spoke to gosford city council, they informed me that permits are free and if it's just for fetes/markets etc.. I don't need permission.. Well that's what I got from the convo.
    The only thing I need is a food health and safety permit
    Which all coffee cart manufactures have these approvals when made. Yes n no?
    If that's the case I guess onto the next part of the business plan sourcing out
    -getting a price on food health and safety permits
    -venues/clients areas
    - coffee brand and cost
    - what 2head coffee machine to buy and grinder
    - a cheap generator that would suit
    The list goes on ...... Good to know council the council part is ticket off
    although he did say as of Feb there are changes happening (nsw department planning )

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    It's not so much that you get a food certificate as mush as it just needs to meet the standards for the area. For example, mine was that it needed 2 hand basins for hot and cold water. It needs to be good grade stainless steel, and you need to be able to show where the water and waste comes and goes (I just use those giant camping water Jerry bottles. 2 with water, and a third for the waste hose.
    I use a Wega 2 group and it runs on a 15 amp source. It has a huge boiler which is really important for a small machine, because if you get an order for say 4-6 Teas, it can really effect things in temperature and water levels not to mention pressure.
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    Emmets espresso,

    thanks for the pictures bud.
    i think it might be a bit big for what I have in mind.
    you mentioned that you use a wega 2group machine, with that running and the grinder what type of power supply do you use? As I hear that a normal power point isn't suitable, do you or anyone one on here know
    how much power is needed for a suitable 2group machine and grinder for markets.

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    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    I run it all off a 15 amp source. The machine won't pass about 14 amps and the grinder doesn't add to much more pressure to the power supply (it's all wired under the hood)

    Most festivals wtc have 20 amp capabiltys. But a generator is probably ideal (but expensive)



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