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    Who here actually likes Nespresso?

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    I'm curious as to whether or not anybody here actually likes Nespresso. I've tried it a few times myself and I'm yet to find a Nespresso coffee that I actually like.

    If somebody mentions an actual Nespresso coffee that they like I might go to where I can get a free sample and try it. Although after previous experience I'm somewhat doubtful. Then again, who knows?

    Thanks.

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    Why do you ask?
    If you don't like Nespresso then why does it matter what others think? I doubt you'll find many here who do but let's say a few do like it, so what? If you said you did like it, I would understand your question a bit more.

    I tried Nespresso once and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but not good enough to want to buy one.

    I can think of other reasons why I wouldn't get one including the environment factor (more plastic empty capsules in the rubbish). But that's my opinion. I've tried other cofee that CSers might turn their nose up such as The Malaysian/Singapore kopi (coffee made with sweetened condensed milk) and it wasn't that bad. Likewise with the Vietnamese equivalent. But I only drank those because there wasn't much choice and the espresso based drinks weren't very good.

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    The coffee is pretty rubbish, always will be. The hot chocolate capsules are ok though but it isn't really that hard to make hot chocolate so the convenience of having a machine do it for you is questionable based on the cost of the capsules themselves.

    The build quality of Nespresso machines is a whole other subject. I'm yet to find any other coffee machine that comes anywhere close to the build quality found in a Nespresso machine.
    They're fun to work on and use quality components. Seems a shame that all the brilliant design and engineering is wasted on the resulting coffee that it produces.

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    Black, it's always gonna be rubbish next to properly-prepared espresso.

    With milk, I can enjoy their dark/rich-labelled pods as coffee-flavoured beverages as two pods, extracted "ristretto", in a small-cap's worth of milk. Once again, not a patch on a "proper" one.

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    Obviously a fair percentage of the population do like them Meet Australia's coffee pod tycoons and most other coffee drinkers are quite happy with some form of instant.

    I suspect that we so called coffee snobs/geeks are only a very small part of the overall Australian market.

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    I can see why some people like pod coffee.

    It is an improvement on instant coffee. It can be one step towards getting real espresso with fresh coffee.

    The machines are cheap while the process is easy and clean. However it is an expensive way to buy stale coffee.

    The promotion by Nestles has been cleaver and slick.

    I have tried about 4 pod coffees including Nespresso. I didn’t like any of them. To me they tasted stale and yucky. One I couldn’t drink and was poured out.

    I take my dose of coffee as a macchiato so poor coffee is not camouflaged by milk or sugar.

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    It only just occurred to me this morning that I might've asked this question before. I'm just curious about it. Even if I was in a full time job I don't see myself buying a Nespresso machine.

    Considering the coffee culture we have in Melbourne it would be interesting to see a break down of the sales figures on a city by city basis. I'll have to look at the links on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry_Duncan View Post
    I can see why some people like pod coffee.

    It is an improvement on instant coffee. It can be one step towards getting real espresso with fresh coffee.

    The machines are cheap while the process is easy and clean. However it is an expensive way to buy stale coffee.

    The promotion by Nestles has been cleaver and slick.
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    100% agree with you! and would add that dispite mr Cluney's persuasive efforts, only a minority of the home coffee drinkers ever drink Espresso without milk and as such are largely insulated from the taste limitations.
    I suspect most users don't even bother with a warming flush befor trying to wring some taste out of those pods.
    Most Nespresso buyers are attracted by the convenience and low initial cost of a home "espresso" system together with the aspirational "image" that it has generated.
    Also, remember there are different Nespresso systems available, the latest being the "Vertuo" system with larger pods and a centrifugal extraction process. The "long black" I tried from one of those was very akin to a pour over (from dubious beans!)

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    I would rather drink instant. I just don't like the taste of nespresso - even with milk (which, to me, seems to come out tasting "greasy").

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    I have to admit it would be fun to find some YouTube videos of people who are "proud of the shiny new Nespresso machines". Just the sarcasm it would promote would be fun to read.

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    If anyone ever finds a pod system that is better than just 'drinkable' I would be very surprised.
    Trying to find a "good" one is a bit of a lost cause.
    The assessment has to be done on a 'long-black' style drink as the moment milk is added any "coffee" however bad, becomes less offensive.
    I rate the average pod as slightly better than Instant coffee and about the same as a coffee bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    If anyone ever finds a pod system that is better than just 'drinkable' I would be very surprised.
    Trying to find a "good" one is a bit of a lost cause.
    The assessment has to be done on a 'long-black' style drink as the moment milk is added any "coffee" however bad, becomes less offensive.
    I rate the average pod as slightly better than Instant coffee and about the same as a coffee bag.
    I've found that if I grind fresh, home-roasted coffee into my own pod a couple of hours prior I get an "okay" result. It's still a long way behind what I get at home, but it makes for passable coffee while at work (where we only have the pod option).

    Even still, sometimes I don't both and bring a filter coffee in a thermos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fruity View Post
    I've found that if I grind fresh, home-roasted coffee into my own pod a couple of hours prior I get an "okay" result. It's still a long way behind what I get at home, but it makes for passable coffee while at work (where we only have the pod option).

    Even still, sometimes I don't both and bring a filter coffee in a thermos.
    Hi fruity

    I nearly gave up on this thread until this post.

    IF you take the time to grind / dose to match your machine and IF your machine is reasonable quality* you will find that fresh roasts will give a lot of CS'r's a shock: really good espresso.

    reasonable quality*: an old "Nespresso clone" owned by a friend has an all stainless mechanism which clocks in at 92 degrees and 9.11 bar. If you use a fresh roast & a decent pod (i.e. one where you cannot taste the plastic / plastic coating) it will make a genuine espresso by any definition of the word I am familiar with. Evidently (secondhand info) early Nespresso machines were also all stainless - the new ones are aluminium / plastic rubbish and are not capable of making anything I would drink, let alone call an espresso. Clearly Noidle22 and I disagree on the build quality of the newer Nespresso machines...


    FWIW, if I had to go with a known pod machine (I don't), I would definitely dial it in using fresh roasts just like a "normal" espresso machine. It would be worth the effort!

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    Yes, fresh grinds will obviously make a big improvement ....though how long will they remain fresh ?
    that, together with all the fiddling , mess, and time taken to empty, clean, and fill, those reuseable pods....eliminates the main advantage of the pod system. That of simple , quick, convenience.
    ..and yes, I have done this, several different Nespresso machine,s , and several different reuseable pod types.

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    The daughter in law has one with the milk frother attachment and it does make a very nice latte, better than most coffee shops in this neck of the woods.
    I did try an espresso with the machine at the dentists and as expected it was quite bitter and had to add sugar, hides some of the sins.
    Whatever floats you boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brevillista View Post
    The daughter in law has one with the milk frother attachment and it does make a very nice latte, better than most coffee shops in this neck of the woods.
    I did try an espresso with the machine at the dentists and as expected it was quite bitter and had to add sugar, hides some of the sins.
    Whatever floats you boat.
    What flavour of coffee does your daughter in law use? There's at least one place in Melbourne that gives tastings.

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    Geez... I dunno if I'm fussy or just been drinking my double-shot short blacks for too long !

    I haven't touched instant coffee in over 20 years and the the thought of drinking Nespresso makes me run and hide. I decline the offer of Nespresso when visiting friends/rellos' who only drink this crap.
    No excuses !... I simply tell them that I make the best liquid gold at home and would never be unfaithful to it.

    Yeah.... I'm a true snob !
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    Quote Originally Posted by pamount View Post
    What flavour of coffee does your daughter in law use? There's at least one place in Melbourne that gives tastings.
    I can't remember now, but when she bought she machine it came with a selection of various coffees and I just chose what they said was the strongest one.

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    Yeah I don't understand why it is so popular. Probably just because it is in fashion with slick advertising.

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    Whilst the machines are ridiculously cheap to buy,
    I wonder if people have ever stopped to think about how much it really costs?
    Apart from the lack of freshness and quality, do the maths and you might be surprised to find out that it costs well over $100 a kilo to buy PODS.
    PODS seem to be doing to the domestic coffee market what replacement ink cartridges did to the domestic printer market.
    Unlike printers where there's not much choice for home users,
    Coffee lovers, have a huge choice instead of being locked into an overpriced, overrated, below standard, clever coffee marketing scheme.

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    I wonder if mr Cluney really likes the coffee as much as the cash he gets for the ads.

    Barry

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    The Bitter Taste of George Clooney




    Quote Originally Posted by Barry_Duncan View Post
    I wonder if mr Cluney really likes the coffee as much as the cash he gets for the ads.

    Barry

    Some interesting comments concerning George...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brevillista View Post
    The daughter in law has one with the milk frother attachment and it does make a very nice latte, better than most coffee shops in this neck of the woods.
    I did try an espresso with the machine at the dentists and as expected it was quite bitter and had to add sugar, hides some of the sins.
    Whatever floats you boat.
    That dentist is just trying to drum up business. I can hear him now "Mmm gee your teeth need a clean, do you drink much coffee? You need to cut down on your sugar in those coffees too". Does he have a chocolate vending machine in the waiting room as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fg1972 View Post
    Whilst the machines are ridiculously cheap to buy,
    I wonder if people have ever stopped to think about how much it really costs?
    Apart from the lack of freshness and quality, do the maths and you might be surprised to find out that it costs well over $100 a kilo to buy PODS.
    PODS seem to be doing to the domestic coffee market what replacement ink cartridges did to the domestic printer market.
    Unlike printers where there's not much choice for home users,
    Coffee lovers, have a huge choice instead of being locked into an overpriced, overrated, below standard, clever coffee marketing scheme.
    Hi fg1972

    Given the labour to fill a pod on a small scale (see earlier posters, this thread), the price is probably reasonable.

    Quality: given the 4 M's, pod machines attempt to remove some of the variables for those who simply cannot be bothered using a manual machine with all the extra fiddling that entails.

    My concern is the poor quality of the newer pod machine mechanisms mean that they have no possibility of working without introducing "extra" tastes and chemicals. Reminds me of an all plastic dripolator (ubiquitous in the US): no way would that be able to make a "clean" cup of coffee, so it becomes problematic when trying to work out how good the underlying technology really is (think aeropress?). The old stainless pod machine I mentioned: when I was running my business empire, I would have bought one for my staff with no hesitation at all. Better than any fully auto after the beans have been well cooked long before you get them into the cup.

    Different strokes... and different problems using different tech.

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    Might have to get used to it

    Good Food - Top restaurants turn to pod coffee

    Top restaurants turn to pod coffee

    A handful of venues have recently begun using Nespresso capsule machines as part of their coffee service, including The Age Good Food Guide one chef's hat-rated Cecconi's in Melbourne and Sydney's Buon Ricordo, as well as Merivale's Papi Chulo in Manly.

    Two of Australia's top chefs – Sydney's Tetsuya Wakuda and Melbourne's Shannon Bennett from three-hat Vue de Monde – have also lent their names to the trend, having being appointed "culinary ambassadors" for Nespresso last year. The former venue serves Nespresso to diners and the latter at events.
    Armando Percuoco from Sydney's Buon Ricordo says having pod and regular espresso ensures greater consistency.
    Armando Percuoco from Sydney's Buon Ricordo says having pod and regular espresso ensures greater consistency. Photo: Steve Baccon

    They join fellow ambassadors Heston Blumenthal, Phil Howard and Mauro Colagreco, who spruik the brand in Europe and around the world, where more than 700 Michelin-starred restaurants now serve Nespresso coffee.

    Armando Percuoco from Sydney's Buon Ricordo introduced a Nespresso machine alongside his two regular espresso machines more than a year ago.

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    That either reveals the truth about how superficial some of these highly rated resturants really are, ....
    ....or how ready they are to accept and endorse products no matter how poor quality they may actually be or how little they really understand the product.

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    Our work has finally listened to our complaints about belnd 43 and have since been generous enough to upgrade us to a pod machine. While the pods are a little bit more bearable than blend 43 I wouldn't put it anywhere near the same class as a freshly made latte from an espresso machine.

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    Wow Shannon Bennett takes a hit there. At least he should. All of them should.
    hey guys. McCafe uses beans. Ha ha ha.

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    I used an 'RDL' pod machine whilst at a bed and breakfast in Italy. The espresso came out astonishingly OK. Slow, dark, good looking crema, and quite a good flavour. Normally I find pod coffees grossly sour but this ended up being the best espresso I had in Italy, certainly the least bitter.

    It was just the basic machine no milk features or hot water tap, they're about $350 in Oz. Including a picture cos I was interested enough to take one.

    also I've never had a nespresso I didn't pour down the sink after first taste. Like dumping a bad shot.

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    I wouldn't turn the offer of one down, they're not horrible. Mixed with frothy milk equals a half decent drink.
    The only thing I don't like about coffee and I drink a lot is that it doesn't quench your thirst and cuppa tea goes down much better on a hot day at home, 'cause you can't get a decent cuppa tea most places either.

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    I have been drinking my coffee as macchiatos since I became lactose intolerant about 15 years ago. I don’t hide poor flavours by mixing it in a milk shake. I have not had a pod coffee that I have liked yet.

    To me they are horrible. To quench my thurst I drink tap water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brevillista View Post
    I wouldn't turn the offer of one down, they're not horrible. Mixed with frothy milk equals a half decent drink.
    +1.

    A branch of my family owns a pod machine so I get a taste every now and then - the espresso isn't that bad, but definitely needs the milk

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    I've got a Nespresso Lattissima Pro with plenty of pods but very rarely use it. Whilst I don't think the coffee is horrible, I do find it watery, lacks character and body. Also, the milk is not very creamy and too airy/foamy for my liking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tucrazy View Post
    ...Whilst I don't think the coffee is horrible, I do find it watery, lacks character and body. Also, the milk is not very creamy and too airy/foamy for my liking.
    To me, that is the definition of horrible coffee

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    The Lattissima machines are worth a lot of money. I often sell them second hand and people always buy them just because they know the Nespresso brand and like their products.
    The auto milk frothers from a milk carafe will always be flawed, they can never really produce nice microfoam. The best auto frother I've used is the cappuccinatore found on the Saeco Royal and some of their other machines. Theycan make some seriously good froth.

    The Lattissima Pro is around $700 RRP and the Lattissima Plus was around $450-500. To be honest, it doesn't make a lot of sense why anyone would spend that much money on a pod machine when you could, from most of the shops that sell them, also buy a Breville BES870 for around the same price but get exceptionally better coffee in every single way.



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