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Thread: It's An Outrage!!!!

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    It's An Outrage!!!!

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    Should that title read?
    Good Food - Previously regarded top restaurants have turned to pod coffee

    or maybe just have a tag-line...
    "Nespresso advertising pays our editorial staff wages so we dedicated 2/3rds of the article to how wonderful they are"

    I did smirk at the potential ambiguity of:
    "anyone can use the pod machine knowing a coffee of consistent quality will result."
    ...CS'rs KNOW what sort of consistent quality will result.

    To be fair to Megan Johnston late in the story she did speak to a couple of people who thought that a real machine was better and a quick scan of her twitter feed shows that the "foodie journalist" hasn't mentioned coffee or cafe in the last 12 months.
    ...I guess as a newbie you can't pick the stories you won't to cover.
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    They may as well serve microwaved frozen grub to keep everything consistent.

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    i particularly liked the quote from Age Good Cafe Guide editor Matt Holden - "[If] I went and paid $200 for degustation that was capped off with pod coffee I'd think that wasn't right."
    Oh really? Der Fred.....
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    I have never had good coffee in a restaurant so unfortunately I'm not really surprised at this. You would think that great restaurants - especially those serving a degustation menu - would try and make the coffee part of the experience. I could imagine going into a place like Attica and having a cold drip halfway through a brew being placed at your table near the start of the meal and when the berry based dessert course is being served, your cold drip yirgacheffe is simultaneously ready to drink alongside it. This exact procedure may not be viable but I'm sure there is a way to work with a speciality roaster on a coffee and dessert match that isn't necessarily reliant on espresso and adds to the theatre of a great night out.
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    I once went to apply for a job when I was starting out at a place which I saw had a Linea, with a good coffee brand, set up out the front in the morning. I then saw that in the afternoon, that was packed away and they served nespresso in the afternoon. I wasn't that desperate at the time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen28 View Post
    I noticed ... having being appointed "culinary ambassadors" for Nespresso last year... i.e. they can be bribed. Says it all.

    Also: "Maria Bortolotto, from Cecconi's, in Melbourne, says a few staff and customers have objected to pod coffee since the venue converted from a conventional machine to Nespresso's top-of-the-range Aguila model a year ago. Ultimately, however, the efficiency and consistency of a pod system outweighs such concerns." i.e. forget quality, just pay the bill...

    Just proves that sometimes you do not get what you pay for!


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    PS: Using an all stainless pod machine (mostly in museums nowadays) and freshly roasted, ground coffee manually loaded into pods, they can actually be startlingly good... just blows the whole convenience thing out of the water. I will stay with my three espresso machines at home for now.

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    I wonder if any of those " top" restaurants use pods to make Affogato ?

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    I continue to be astonished that great restaurants will punctuate a terrific meal with appalling coffee.

    It literally lets patrons leave with a sour taste in their mouths. The final memory of the meal.
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    Yep, one reason why I stick to Rutherglen Muscat at the end of the meal. Typically better coffee at lots of 'cheap and cheerful' Italian/pizza restaurants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    I continue to be astonished that great restaurants will punctuate a terrific meal with appalling coffee.

    It literally lets patrons leave with a sour taste in their mouths. The final memory of the meal.
    A large percentage of people wouldn't know a good meal if they fell over one, the same goes for coffee as we already know. That's why these establishments can get away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Yep, one reason why I stick to Rutherglen Muscat at the end of the meal.
    Rutherglen Topaque for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwantfm View Post
    Rutherglen Topaque for me
    Too hard for me to see through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Too hard for me to see through.
    You have no idea how much it irked me to write Topaque rather than Tokay

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    Outrage! nope, restaurants in Australia and many other parts of the world, typically, don't do coffee well (and whats more don't claim to, there are exceptions) we always have enjoyed our meal then moved on to another establishment for a coffee and or night cap, its all part of an enjoyable evening out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Outrage! nope, restaurants in Australia and many other parts of the world, typically, don't do coffee well (and whats more don't claim to, there are exceptions) we always have enjoyed our meal then moved on to another establishment for a coffee and or night cap, its all part of an enjoyable evening out.
    Perhaps it's a cunning plan to get us out the door sooner (to free up the table) or drink (presumably higher profit) dessert wines...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Outrage! nope, restaurants in Australia and many other parts of the world, typically, don't do coffee well (and whats more don't claim to, there are exceptions) we always have enjoyed our meal then moved on to another establishment for a coffee and or night cap, its all part of an enjoyable evening out.

    Couldn't agree more, the meal's the most important thing and a great coffee will not rescue a dodgy meal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brevillista View Post
    a great coffee will not rescue a dodgy meal.
    Perzactly.
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    I rarely get coffee at restaurants as they are mostly very ordinary so bad in fact that if it is cheaper for Pods it wouldn't make any difference.

    At Rockpool in Melbourne they have some single origin coffee for $9 per cup or standard (common brand) for about $4. They make the SO stuff sound very tempting but at $9, no thanks I can get a KG of green beans for that.

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    I took my wife to Cecconis for her birthday 2 weeks ago, all 3 courses were faultless and the Italian wine was perfect. But when I took a sip of my espresso I had to spit it out it was that bad! It wasn't till After dinner when we had a cocktail at the bar that I realised they served me a bloody pod from the big ugly Nespresso eye sore sitting on the bench! The staff were very disapointed at the owners choice to install it and I can't imagine that any of the patrons would be happy drinking that crap full stop, than at a restaurant such as this. It's pretty sad that you can get a better ( I use that term loosely ) coffee at Maccas than a reputable Italian restaurant. Shame shame shame, hire a barista or train some staff you cheap lazy f%#@! I will never return.





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    I have been to a lot of restaurants with good name-brand Espresso machines on the bar who subsequently turn out a horrible coffee.
    The problem is usually one or both of two things:
    Poor quality beans.
    Untrained bar-staff who in any case, would rather be making a cocktail or a rum & coke.
    I guess the beans are related to the owners perception that they are going to have to pay more for good bean, and the untrained staff to the owners ability to find staff who care about the job enough to want to be trained (and will still be there next week).
    Like Yelta I never drink coffee in restaurants any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Perzactly.
    Well, what can i do other than step into a 4 Michelin star restaurant and walk out cursing at their pod coffee?

    I'd rather stick to a cafe... and not really snob on my food.... just snobbing on coffee will do IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLudicrousBean View Post
    Well, what can i do other than step into a 4 Michelin star restaurant and walk out cursing at their pod coffee?

    I'd rather stick to a cafe... and not really snob on my food.... just snobbing on coffee will do IMHO.
    Ray, you're being ludicrous... again.
    Good luck finding a 4 star restaurant in the Michelin Guide
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    Well, living up to my name....


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    Quote Originally Posted by kwantfm View Post
    Rutherglen Topaque for me
    I actually have a bottle of Campbells Rutherglen Grand Topaque which I should open soon. It's a 50 year aged blend. I just have to work out what coffee I should roast that will match it.

    Mike
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