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    Inline filter for WA tap water

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    Hi All,
    Any recommendations on what filter i should be using?
    Im waiting on profitec delivery and i would like to plumb it in, just not sure what filter to go with.

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    The water in Perth varies based on location. You should test it first to determine its quality and then you will know how much filtering you need.

    I have a Brita C150 and it noticeably makes the water taste much better and seems to do a decent job of softening too.

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    What do you test for hardness?

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    I've got an RO system with remin, general advice I received was WA water is so bad that it needs it. Aqualife AquaCafe, non-sponsor machine supplier stocks it locally, not a cheap option though...

    All I know is tread carefully with some of the filtration stores locally, some of the people I came across were on par with used car salesman.
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    You can get water test strips.

    Cheers

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    Haha yeap. Thats why i thought might be better to ask here haha.

    I wouldnt go towards RO. I have worked on big RO units suppling water to 900 people. Im not sure what domestic ROs or of they are like in terms on maintenance and chemicals. But i know big ones cost big bucks to maintain.

    I rarely drink tap water, unless for coffee or tea :/

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    Hi Pasic,

    Have your water tested and then you will have a good idea of what will work. We have some guidelines: Filtration | Talk Coffee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    Hi Pasic,

    Have your water tested and then you will have a good idea of what will work. We have some guidelines: Filtration | Talk Coffee
    Thanks Talk_Coffee. That was a great read. I didnt know perth had such high TDS. On the ROs i worked at we kept it to 35ppm.

    Very interested now, will buy test kit tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasic View Post
    Thanks Talk_Coffee. That was a great read. I didnt know perth had such high TDS...
    My pleasure Pasic.

    My understanding of Perth is that it depends on where your water comes from. Best bet is to have your water tested so that you can make the right decision for your circumstances.

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    I have been given two suggestions to add to our twin filter filtration:
    1. Adding a resin water softener in line filter. (Bombara - non sponsor)
    2. Adding a phosphate in line filter that holds scale in solution.
    We ended up using the resin filter but still wonder which would be best. The Talk Coffee information reference is very good but for Perth water it did not seem clear what we should do.
    Any help would be appreciates.

    This thread will probably be relocated - if so I hope I can find it.

    Re water source: difficult to know, I think they switch or mix it between ground water and desal. Sometimes our soap really froths sometimes not! We live west of Perth near coast.

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    The water corp can provide a detailed indicative assay for your location as a starting point.

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    Yep, the information is online by suburb if you try googling it

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    Thanks, but what do I google?

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    Attached, its under Water Quality Annual Report Data pg 44 onwards

    Annual-report-2014.pdf

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    So ive done strip test. Meh its as accurate as the report above. Haha. Between 200 and 300ppm total hardness i would guess. Ph seems about 7.0.. according to the strip..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasic View Post
    So ive done strip test. Meh its as accurate as the report above. Haha. Between 200 and 300ppm total hardness i would guess. Ph seems about 7.0.. according to the strip..
    Assuming 200ppm TH, that would likely put TDS at >300ppm. If it were my machine, I'd be going bottled or RO.
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    Here's an example just in from Mt Gambier. 6 month old machine on everpure filtration and scale reduction...
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    Quote Originally Posted by evro50 View Post
    I've got an RO system with remin, general advice I received was WA water is so bad that it needs it. Aqualife AquaCafe, non-sponsor machine supplier stocks it locally, not a cheap option though...

    All I know is tread carefully with some of the filtration stores locally, some of the people I came across were on par with used car salesman.
    How much reject water is there from domestic RO? Do you need to rechlorinate it after?

    Im thinking if RO water can filter out fluoride, might change my mind about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    Here's an example just in from Mt Gambier. 6 month old machine on everpure filtration and scale reduction...
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    wow! a quick descale will sort this one out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dumiya View Post

    Re water source: difficult to know, I think they switch or mix it between ground water and desal. Sometimes our soap really froths sometimes not! We live west of Perth near coast.
    It varies, not quite suburb by suburb, but close, some also include surface water via dams. It also varies seasonally. Their annual report gives you an idea, but if you email them they can give you a longer average which is better. Best bet however is samples direct from your tap. Swimming pool shops will give you detailed numbers if you take a sample in. Worth the money in my opinion given what we're spending on the machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    Here's an example just in from Mt Gambier. 6 month old machine on everpure filtration and scale reduction...
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    Yeow.... Descale that and it will melt! So no scale reduction for me. So far my mushroom is good, but elements are more vulnerable me thinks!
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    So looking at range of bottled water at shops.

    Ive seen pureau water has 0.02 TDS. Wtf how is that good human consumption.. maybe i should buy that and mix it with 20% tap water.

    What is acceptable total hardness range for a coffee machine? 20-30?

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    Woah! What the hey!?

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    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Well i have been feeding mount franklin water to my machine. Probably alot better than tap water.

    Anyone been using bottle water for their machine that can recommend good bottle water?



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