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Thread: Cat poop coffee, Is it for real?

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    Cat poop coffee, Is it for real?

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    Just came across this in the magazine. Is it for real? Don't think I have seen it for sale anywhere in Australia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak

    It is believed to be one of the most expensive coffee however i find it really unpalatable.

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    Yeah this stuff has been kicking around for a loooooong time. I first heard about it about 10 years ago, but I'm sure it's existed for far longer than that. Gets discussed here on the forum every so often. Never tasted it, but I'm sure it's overpriced garbage.

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    Yep...

    90% marketing hyperbole and 10% reality...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Yep...

    90% marketing hyperbole and 10% reality...

    Mal.
    not to mention 90% animal cruelty, 10% crap coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    not to mention 90% animal cruelty, 10% crap coffee.
    Literally.
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    Can Say I have tried it, however have to question the whole process for many reasons. Firstly I feel is cruel tot he civet cat and secondly I feel we are being taken for a ride. The reason I say this is the output they say they get from the cats to the amount i see apparently sold through out the world doesn't add up whatsoever. I feel we might be getting a small % of the processed bean via the cat with the other larger % being a filler of some Indo bean.

    Just an opinion, but one im willing to stick by.

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    "Regular" Indo beans provide plenty enough character for my liking anyhow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    "Regular" Indo beans provide plenty enough character for my liking anyhow...
    Don't know what "regular" Indo beans taste like, to be very honest...
    CS beans are way better than regular...

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    I've tried it as a traditional Indonesian kopi tobruk (Ground coffee), it was slightly smoother than a normal coffee prepared the same way, but there is surely a placebo factor.
    The best explanation of it came from the owner of FREAK coffee in Bali - wild luwaks eat only the ripest cherries, so the coffee is good because it's picked at the right time. Now, the luwaks are kept in cages and fed enormous amounts of coffee, so they lose that choice benefit as well as being cruel to the animals.
    And if you wonder who got the idea to do this, it's worth googling pictures of the luwak stool - it's not a matter of picking up coffee beans from the floor, but actually there's a very nicely prepared bundle of beans all ready to go!

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    The Crivet Cats are now "caged farmed" to produce this coffee. Very cruel process...
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    I cupped some at MICE2016 with some other Indonesian coffees. It didn't stand out as good or bad. Just middle of the road. One dimensional with muted high notes...

    I had the idea of getting my kids to poop out coffee for dodgy x but decided against it as it would be a pretty poopy way to make a living.
    That just conjures up way too many images. But god it gave me a great laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Absolutely disgusting
    The Kopi Luwak at MICE was guaranteed as "free range." Also, caged production is now illegal in Indonesia. I have no idea how well the industry is regulated though.
    Probably as well regulated as everything else in the country...

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    My sister was there a couple of weeks ago and they had them in cages.

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    The regulation is a tad on the lenient side. Halfway between Kuta and Ubud there is a place with around 8 cages, right on the highway and clearly sign-posted for tourists. The best tasting beverage in the place was the ginger/honey tea. The Luwak coffee was on par with Blend 43.

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    It probably was blend 43!

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeechris View Post
    I feel we are being taken for a ride. The reason I say this is the output they say they get from the cats to the amount i see apparently sold through out the world doesn't add up whatsoever.
    So much stuff in South East Asia is just a knock off anyway, why go to all that trouble with the animal when you can just print its picture on the bag and sell just as much. A friend of mine bought me a bag on a trip 18 months ago and I swear the beans were all oily in some sort of sweet butter syrup. Even if they were legit beans why add stuff to it?

    Herveys Range tea rooms in Townsville sold it years ago (may still do) for $50 a cup. I'm guessing they're not selling much of it and the roasted beans are just sitting there going stale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteSzad View Post
    What's wrong with blend 43. So you only drink gold blend?
    You makin' the Dandenongs look bad!!

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    Top shelf International Roast thank you very much!!

    Cheers

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    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Top shelf so shortblackmen can't reach it.
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