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Thread: General coffee question - not complete beginner but..

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    General coffee question - not complete beginner but..

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    Hi, I bought a Silvia about a year ago, and then added a PID a few months ago which is essential for the Rancilio.

    My question is about expectations for flavour; I have tried various beans and settings and the coffee is ok but still missing flavour.
    Compared to my local coffee shop (and even local Maccas on a good day) I just dont get the flavour, my coffee is very mild it doesnt add up, mine is slighlty acidic / citrus but just not all there (sometimes bitter).. Milk is generally good but is my predominant flavour..

    Is this what i should expect I know they are using commercial machines? is it my temp? Old beans (not easy to get fresh in country?) Extraction?

    Please help

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    Hi Louise
    The Silvia produces great espresso when all the variables are in place. Good quality fresh beans through a half decent grinder with good dosing and distribution should produce a pretty tasty espresso, the flavour you achieve will depend on the taste profile of the origin or blend that you are using.
    I am sure some Silvia users on CS will come to your assistance!!

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    Let's start with your grinder first;

    What grinder are you using and how much are you dosing?

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    Hi Louise,

    What grinder are you using? And how old are the beans?

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    First things first. Beans. Where are they being sourced from? How long since they were roasted? How are they being stored?


    Java "First assure good beans, then start looking at all the other variables." phile
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    PSST. I'm guessing the OP's name might be Louis, rather than Louise.
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    Haha, just realised that! Same questions still apply though......
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    Greenman I am using a rocky grinder which does an ok job but havnt used anything else so no comparison to make, about the blend I am trying the few that we have locally but thought i may be able to get a bit more flavour out of them, they may just be a mild blend, dont get me wrong they have some nice mild flavours but I am personally fond of a (what i call) the nutty flavour profile of some of the shop bought stuff. Some local roasters are very mild and slightly fruity even when they make it, it may just not be my taste..
    Gun I am dosing about 17 grams in a standard rancilio basket,
    Beans are stored in an airtight container in dark cupboard and opened each time i put a dose worth in the grinder. One question does hot weather affect beans even in dry dark low o2 conditions?
    The beans I usually get come from a shop where i can buy a few varities from one or two different suppliers, they are sealed, but not sure how long they sit there. The everyday floor staff have no idea, which leads me to wonder, but they may sit on the shelf for months its hard to say.

    And yes its Louis but not the first time its been Louise, I do however know some Louise's.. I had a laugh.
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    Hi LOUIS sorry about trying the change your gender.
    If the beans you purchase don't have a roast date on the package one would be sceptical that they would not be fresh. Stale beans lose their punch and don't extract as well as fresher quality roasts.
    Rocky grinders do a good job grinding for espresso, would be worth ordering a bag of Andy's Espresso Wow blend on beanbay, sure to please the taste buds and you will be guaranteed it is fresh!!
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    For the life of me 'gb', I can't make out what your new avatar is a photo of....
    Please help...

    Mal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenman View Post
    Hi LOUIS sorry about trying the change your gender.
    If the beans you purchase don't have a roast date on the package one would be sceptical that they would not be fresh. Stale beans lose their punch and don't extract as well as fresher quality roasts.
    Rocky grinders do a good job grinding for espresso, would be worth ordering a bag of Andy's Espresso Wow blend on beanbay, sure to please the taste buds and you will be guaranteed it is fresh!!
    Hey Greenman,

    Some people pay big money to have gender changed and here you are offering the service for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    For the life of me 'gb', I can't make out what your new avatar is a photo of....
    Please help...

    Mal.

    The background of it it looks like a Vesuvius ..... some contraption in the foreground....dunno.
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    Mal I had a pic of my roaster but it didn't come up too well, Profitec 700 will have to do for now!!
    Mystery object at front is Mazzer SJ without the hopper for manual dosing!!
    cheers Trevor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    For the life of me 'gb', I can't make out what your new avatar is a photo of....
    Please help...

    Mal.
    Mal if you're referring to GunBarista's avatar I'm pretty sure it's an EK43 with a custom paint job in the foreground and the espresso machine (NS?) in the background.

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    Think it was Greenman's former avatar that he was questioning......I could pick out the power lead and what looked like a kitchenaid mixer (but was probably the roasting set up)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Think it was Greenman's former avatar that he was questioning......I could pick out the power lead and what looked like a kitchenaid mixer (but was probably the roasting set up)

    Everytime I see your forum name I giggle to myself.

    What is a Barry O Speedwagon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Think it was Greenman's former avatar that he was questioning......I could pick out the power lead and what looked like a kitchenaid mixer (but was probably the roasting set up)
    Spot on Barry, the power lead is a 20amp plug and the facade and cooling tray of my roaster, it was a bad pic which has been deleted now!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenman View Post
    Spot on Barry, the power lead is a 20amp plug and the facade and cooling tray of my roaster, it was a bad pic which has been deleted now!!
    Barry's more than just a pretty face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smee View Post
    Everytime I see your forum name I giggle to myself.

    What is a Barry O Speedwagon?
    It's a corruption/concatenation of former NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell and 70's crap-rockers REO Speedwagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    It's a corruption/concatenation of former NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell and 70's crap-rockers REO Speedwagon.
    That's so awesome. Better than I had imagined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smee View Post
    Everytime I see your forum name I giggle to myself.

    What is a Barry O Speedwagon?
    showing your age (or rather, "youth") there, Smee. Did you ever watch Count Down on ABC tv? Remember "R.E.O. Speedwagon"?... Google 'em!
    Not sure what the connection is for Barry, but I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    That's so awesome. Better than I had imagined.
    I can't claim any brilliance. It was the result of a long afternoon / evening on Rutherglen red wine and a few misheard questions among my friends and I.

    My avatar is, in fact, a photo of the fire truck that REO Speedwagon took their name from. Too small to see though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    It's a corruption/concatenation of former NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell and 70's crap-rockers REO Speedwagon.
    Just remember BO'S, you can tune a piano but you can't tuna fish!


    Java "Don't let 'em go!" phile
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    Quote Originally Posted by Javaphile View Post
    Just remember BO'S, you can tune a piano but you can't tuna fish!


    Java "Don't let 'em go!" phile

    Yep, possibly the worst album title in history

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT11 View Post
    ........ Remember "R.E.O. Speedwagon"?...........
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zpOULjyy-n8.

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    Wow, from a current 2017 "general coffee question" we've gone back 3 decades in just 26 posts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenman View Post
    Hi LOUIS sorry about trying the change your gender.
    If the beans you purchase don't have a roast date on the package one would be sceptical that they would not be fresh. Stale beans lose their punch and don't extract as well as fresher quality roasts.
    Rocky grinders do a good job grinding for espresso, would be worth ordering a bag of Andy's Espresso Wow blend on beanbay, sure to please the taste buds and you will be guaranteed it is fresh!!
    Will have to try his beans, judging by the dust on some of the 250g packets I see sometimes they are probably not fresh. The rocky has gone pretty good so far, had heard mixed reviews, glad to hear someone thinks they are OK!

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    Dust on the packets of whose beans? Andy's from BeanBay? If so I don't know what dust you're referring to but all beans are roasted to order and will be delivered to you 1-2 days after coming out of the roaster. Depending on where you are located it is not unusual for the beans to arrive on your doorstep less than 24 hours after they've been pulled from the roaster!


    Java "Nothing stale in BeanBay!" phile
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    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Louis has not tried Andy's coffee. Obviously referring to supermarket beans there.



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