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    Hello,

    I have built a new home and the builder failed to provide the appropriate hole in the bench for my coffee machine to connect to the water filter. Someone is coming tomorrow to complete this for me.

    Are there general rules or dos/don'ts in what should be done. Do I position the machine near the hole or do I provide more room so the connecting hoses have room not to be stretched out a little.

    I have got the brita filter c150 filter.


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    What's the bench material?

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    Depends on the fitting really - on my Synchronika the inlet is at the back of the machine, swivels 360 horizontally but is parallel to and quite close to flush with the bench top. The inlet hose is relatively stiff, with a largeish bend radius.

    Ideally you'd want the hole to be underneath the machine but in my case that would most likely mean having the hole toward the front or centre of the bench; if there's a chance you'll sell or rent the house or move the machine you'd want it as far back as possible.
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    It is an Alex Duetto 11 so I will need to take a look and where the the outlet is.

    Also does anyone use the waste as an outlet or continue to just manually empty their trays?
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    Plumb the waste for me. A decent "drop" from the waste outlet to the counter top hole is important and keep the waste outlet hole in the drip tray clear and clean. I use a round plastic takeaway container to catch most waste water during maintenance - less splashing and less mess.
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    Definitely plumb the waste! It's terrific not having an overfull drip tray to empty every day
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    Quote Originally Posted by nessuno View Post
    It is an Alex Duetto 11 so I will need to take a look and where the the outlet is.

    Also does anyone use the waste as an outlet or continue to just manually empty their trays?
    If the Duetto is the same as the Leva then the waste is a small cup under the tray and the pipe runs out to the right.

    The problem with the cup is that if you are running a lot of water through at once (eg to do a portafilter wiggle clean) it can overflow. So keep an eye on it.

    I put the hole in the side of my bench, but only because I was able to do so and didn't want to drill the stonework.

    Hole placement depends on machine and aesthetics.
    I'd go for out of the way as a starting point.
    Then make sure you can get an ok angle downwards to get it to empty.
    Drain hose is not super flexible.

    You'll also need the inside of your cupboard drilled, I suspect, to get down to the drain at the bottom.

    Also note that the little nipple bits on the drains usually come plugged - so you need to drill those out too.

    You will also need some form of tie to hold the drain hose onto the nipple. A metal clamp is the way to go - like what is used on washing machine hose.
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    G'day Steve...

    Would be better if you started a new thread for this mate, under Pointy End machinery...

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    Thanks for your help and advice. The stone person is coming tomorrow so I cannot wait to get it all connected!!!!!

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    Hi, I have been able to connect the filter to the tap without any major problems ..... I do have a problem with a slow leak where the hose connects to the machine. I had monitored it all day yesterday and there was no leak. Subsequently overnight i woke up to some puddles on the bench and floor. It could be either the connection to the pipe had loosened in some way or there is a leak when the machine is swiched off? I had to turn the tap of for the day.

    Any ideas on how to get to the bottom of this leak?

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    Couple of things:

    Do you have a pressure limiting valve?

    Also check the threads on the machine connection are clean, and that the hose is tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herzog View Post
    Couple of things:

    Do you have a pressure limiting valve?

    Also check the threads on the machine connection are clean, and that the hose is tight.
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    - Yes PLV is attached to the tap.
    - Tap only turns a slight amount.
    - The filter has some setting on it set to 30 (i think) I need to take a look tonight, anyone know what that number at the top means.
    - The machine is heavy i may need to jack the four feet up and have a good look at the connection into the machine. I am hoping I loosened it by accident when cleaning the bench but i doubt it will just be that

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    [QUOTE=nessuno;613795].

    A 30% bypass means that 30% of the water which goes through to the source is not filtered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nessuno View Post
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    - Yes PLV is attached to the tap.
    - Tap only turns a slight amount.
    - The filter has some setting on it set to 30 (i think) I need to take a look tonight, anyone know what that number at the top means.
    - The machine is heavy i may need to jack the four feet up and have a good look at the connection into the machine. I am hoping I loosened it by accident when cleaning the bench but i doubt it will just be that
    A leak from the water inlet should be an easy fix.

    First up I would undo the inlet to the machine (after you have turned the water off!) and just check the thread looks ok and give it a clean and wipe with a rag. If it all looks OK then re screw on and nip it up with the correct spanner (don't over tighten as you can stress the internal pipe if you are not supporting it at the same time) Sometimes people use thread sealant tape but it shouldn't be necessary if you tighten it correctly.

    It sounds like you have a Brita filter of some sort set a t a 30/70 bypass. This should be fine for your location and water quality.

    Feel free to call me if you want to talk through it.

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    [QUOTE=Logga;613801]
    Quote Originally Posted by nessuno View Post
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    A 30% bypass means that 30% of the water which goes through to the source is not filtered.
    CRAP - what should it be set to?

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    30% bypass is quite normal setup for melbourne water.

    Can I ask where you got you've machine and filtration set up from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post
    A leak from the water inlet should be an easy fix.

    First up I would undo the inlet to the machine (after you have turned the water off!) and just check the thread looks ok and give it a clean and wipe with a rag. If it all looks OK then re screw on and nip it up with the correct spanner (don't over tighten as you can stress the internal pipe if you are not supporting it at the same time) Sometimes people use thread sealant tape but it shouldn't be necessary if you tighten it correctly.

    It sounds like you have a Brita filter of some sort set a t a 30/70 bypass. This should be fine for your location and water quality.

    Feel free to call me if you want to talk through it.

    Cheers

    Antony
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    www.casaespresso.com.au
    I hope i did not over tighten it ..... reviewing it all now

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    Machine was left on overnight and no leak ....

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    Update for whoever is interested .... machine leaks when switched off!

    Spoke to Antony from casaespresso and I am going to put some plumbing tape around the thread where the pipe connects to the machine and see how we go. THANKS for your help Antony!!



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