Results 1 to 7 of 7
Like Tree15Likes
  • 6 Post By WhatEverBeansNecessary
  • 1 Post By GrahamK
  • 1 Post By level3ninja
  • 1 Post By Yelta
  • 6 Post By Andy

Thread: Coffee waste from tree to cup

  1. #1
    Senior Member WhatEverBeansNecessary's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    484

    Coffee waste from tree to cup

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    A friend linked this to me the other day which I found super interesting.
    It shows wastage from picked cherries to the cup (of course on average) and shows it takes about 1 kg of ripe cherries to make 8 cups of espresso! Puts things into perspective how hard it really is to eek out an existence as coffee farmer - particularly if you sell cheap to the large chains!

    p5mp0xfpupzz.png
    Dimal, GrahamK, Javaphile and 3 others like this.

  2. #2
    Senior Member GrahamK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Ormiston - Brisbane
    Posts
    542
    I doubt you would even actually get 8x25g from 200g roasted beans. There will be wastage at the Grinder/Prep stage as well

  3. #3
    Senior Member level3ninja's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    1,502
    I would assume a 25g dose includes an allowance for wastage. Say 5g.
    Magic_Matt likes this.

  4. #4
    Senior Member Yelta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Moonta SA.
    Posts
    6,889
    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    I would assume a 25g dose includes an allowance for wastage. Say 5g.
    Crikey L3N, that's almost 25%, must be some messy operators out there.

    My allowance for wastage is as close to zero as I can get, in other words bugger all.

  5. #5
    Senior Member level3ninja's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    1,502
    I would have thought in a cafe setting that would include unground beans and wasted shots etc, not just spilled ground coffee.

  6. #6
    Senior Member Yelta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Moonta SA.
    Posts
    6,889
    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    I would have thought in a cafe setting that would include unground beans and wasted shots etc, not just spilled ground coffee.
    I'm sure one of our retail operators can throw some light on coffee wastage in a retail situation.

    I know if I operated a cafe and staff were wasting 25% of my coffee beans I would be mightily pissed off.

    I realise there is a world of difference between a home setup where we can take all the time we need to eliminate waste, and the pressure of a cafe situation with orders backed up, some wastage in a cafe is unavoidable, but 25%! that's a quarter of your beans into the bin.

  7. #7
    CoffeeSnobs Owner Andy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Internet
    Posts
    16,845
    Blog Entries
    1
    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Quote Originally Posted by WhatEverBeansNecessary View Post
    A friend linked this to me the other day which I found super interesting.
    It shows wastage from picked cherries to the cup (of course on average) and shows it takes about 1 kg of ripe cherries to make 8 cups of espresso! Puts things into perspective how hard it really is to eek out an existence as coffee farmer - particularly if you sell cheap to the large chains!

    p5mp0xfpupzz.png
    With many coffee trees only producing 5 kilos of cherry it's easy to see how many trees and how much space it takes to feed our coffee hunger too.

    Great graph, and I think the end result of 25g is already allowing for some cafe-end wastage.
    Should also mention that the "42g of smoke" is actually 24g of water and 18g of smoke/CO2/etc.

    Add to that graph the transport inputs (farm to dock to dock to roaster to consumer) and the overheads are huge.

    It's amazing we can enjoy it for the price we do.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •