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Thread: Seal the Deal with a 9mm Group Gasket, they said.

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    Seal the Deal with a 9mm Group Gasket, they said.

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    I wasnít sure whether to use my last 15 packers or order a new grouphandle.
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    What machine is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnafunk View Post
    What machine is that?
    A really sad old Wega. Soon to be decommissioned.
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    Love the weird mouth the group head comes out from

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    Was there much wear on the group head itself?

    I remember doing an old Azkoyen that had been pulled from a western sydney establishment that a servo owner from out further west bought cheap with many dreams i guess. Both groups needed 9mm seals and 3 spacers.
    I got it going for him (for a cost probably greater than he bought it for) but made it plain how much work the machine had seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noidle22 View Post
    Was there much wear on the group head itself?

    I remember doing an old Azkoyen that had been pulled from a western sydney establishment that a servo owner from out further west bought cheap with many dreams i guess. Both groups needed 9mm seals and 3 spacers.
    I got it going for him (for a cost probably greater than he bought it for) but made it plain how much work the machine had seen.
    Both the P.Fs. and bayonets were worn to shiny brass. Itís 11 years old and the business is getting dual Wega Polaris Trons or Linea Classics - either will be a massive surprise to the staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sprezzatura View Post
    Both the P.Fs. and bayonets were worn to shiny brass. Itís 11 years old and the business is getting dual Wega Polaris Trons or Linea Classics - either will be a massive surprise to the staff.
    My take:

    Not even a decision: get the Linea - worth every cent. No way could a Wega do 400+ shots in under 3 hours - one of my favourite cafes does that on occasion with their Linea.

    I have never found a Wega that really does a good job (seen about 20 of them since the '90's) and admit to being biassed by their lack of shot grunt - 3 months ago I encountered a 2 group Wega that was about a year old - using my Vario and measuring the dosage I completely choked it. Sad thing - my 6910 was sitting next to it running the same dosage / grind and doing textbook shots. The Linea has way more power than that...

    YMMV, just my 2 cents worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TampIt View Post
    My take:

    Not even a decision: get the Linea - worth every cent. No way could a Wega do 400+ shots in under 3 hours - one of my favourite cafes does that on occasion with their Linea.

    I have never found a Wega that really does a good job (seen about 20 of them since the '90's) and admit to being biassed by their lack of shot grunt - 3 months ago I encountered a 2 group Wega that was about a year old - using my Vario and measuring the dosage I completely choked it. Sad thing - my 6910 was sitting next to it running the same dosage / grind and doing textbook shots. The Linea has way more power than that...

    YMMV, just my 2 cents worth.
    No argument there! I do contract work for the company that does the service on the machine. Grapevine says Lineas coming (2 x 2 group Classics). Iím a La Marzocco technician so nothing would please me more.

    Hopefully this old girl will smash Ďem out through the holiday. I put in my caveats - one old, obsolete 3 group over the busy period with no back up machine doing 50kg a week, 10h/7 day cafť?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TampIt View Post
    My take:

    Not even a decision: get the Linea - worth every cent. No way could a Wega do 400+ shots in under 3 hours - one of my favourite cafes does that on occasion with their Linea.

    I have never found a Wega that really does a good job (seen about 20 of them since the '90's) and admit to being biassed by their lack of shot grunt - 3 months ago I encountered a 2 group Wega that was about a year old - using my Vario and measuring the dosage I completely choked it. Sad thing - my 6910 was sitting next to it running the same dosage / grind and doing textbook shots. The Linea has way more power than that...

    YMMV, just my 2 cents worth.
    Some Wega models are serious rattlers - noisey when the pump is engaged. Chasing the origins is time consuming! Atlas and older Polarisí come to mind.

    Lineaís are quiet; the Modbar is virtually silent and uses the same gear pump as the Strada EP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprezzatura View Post
    A really sad old Wega. Soon to be decommissioned.
    Looks like a Wega Vela:


    Quote Originally Posted by TampIt View Post
    Not even a decision: get the Linea - worth every cent. No way could a Wega do 400+ shots in under 3 hours - one of my favourite cafes does that on occasion with their Linea.
    After working with a lot of low end stuff (ancient San Marinos, shagged Boemas, flogged out Azkoyens etc.) and a lot of serious top end stuff more recently (Synessos, KVWs, Slayer Steams, Stradas, Operas, Black Eagles, Cafe Racers) I reckon the perfect middle ground is the Linea Classic - there's a good reason it still exists as a current model. Just enough 'fancy' features to make it a better, more tunable and durable machine than a lot of the cheaper HX machines, but without a lot of the fancy electronic extras the 'fancier' machines have that end up causing a lot of the unreliability issues - just a basic, solid design with only a few alterations over the years to fine tune it.

    Quote Originally Posted by sprezzatura View Post
    Some Wega models are serious rattlers - noisey when the pump is engaged. Chasing the origins is time consuming! Atlas and older Polaris’ come to mind.
    Often the cause is either drip tray grilles that are slightly twisted and don't sit flat, which can sometimes be fixed, or the hoses to/from the internal pump vibrating against pipes - I've lost count of the Polarises I have quietened down by removing the side cover and prodding at hoses with the pump running until the prodding stops the noise temporarily. Often a cable tie strategically placed to pull a hose one way or another shuts things up nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorganGT View Post
    Looks like a Wega Vela:



    After working with a lot of low end stuff (ancient San Marinos, shagged Boemas, flogged out Azkoyens etc.) and a lot of serious top end stuff more recently (Synessos, KVWs, Slayer Steams, Stradas, Operas, Black Eagles, Cafe Racers) I reckon the perfect middle ground is the Linea Classic - there's a good reason it still exists as a current model. Just enough 'fancy' features to make it a better, more tunable and durable machine than a lot of the cheaper HX machines, but without a lot of the fancy electronic extras the 'fancier' machines have that end up causing a lot of the unreliability issues - just a basic, solid design with only a few alterations over the years to fine tune it.


    Often the cause is either drip tray grilles that are slightly twisted and don't sit flat, which can sometimes be fixed, or the hoses to/from the internal pump vibrating against pipes - I've lost count of the Polarises I have quietened down by removing the side cover and prodding at hoses with the pump running until the prodding stops the noise temporarily. Often a cable tie strategically placed to pull a hose one way or another shuts things up nicely.
    It is a Vela - 3G/AV. Itís 11 years old; a tough old workhorse. Itís going to be replaced in early February (of course that the latest / it was supposed to be replaced in August).



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