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    A question regarding dose size

    Hi,

    Still rather new to this, but after a little advice.

    I'm using a BES920, Atom grinder, pullman 19-22 basket.

    We are drinking lattes only, and whilst the taste is smooth I'm finding the flavour isn't strong enough.

    This is what I am doing.

    1. Grind 21g
    2. Pull shot 28-30 sec for about 2 x 20g extraction
    3. Steam and add milk for a total 230ml drink approx 30ml coffee, 200 milk.

    I find a double shot latte a little too strong. Should I try dropping the dose to 19g ( should I really go lower with this basket ?) and making single drinks ?

    I read so much about the "traditional" 7g and 14g and how it really doesn't apply anymore. So what should I be aiming at?

    Cheers
    Jamie

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    Just a casual coffee drinker view here, that seems to me a massive amount of milk. No wonder you up the dose by 50%. Even so, our comparison latte would be what I think is more traditional, 30 mL coffee with 60 mL of milk (90 mL for my wife).

    if I assume your 21g 30 mL is equivalent to 45 mL of my 14g dose (a working assumption) then your milk to coffee ratio is still 4.4 to 1, where ours are 2:1 or 3:1 (and I do not normally drink latte anyway).

    You say a double shot into one cup is too strong. At that point your milk to coffee ratio is 2.2 to 1. Now we have parameters. If you like using 21g of coffee, adjust your milk downwards, or dose down and milk down further.
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    Get smaller cups.
    I use 21g / 22g VST 1:2 brew ratio, split into 2 x 150ml cups, makes perfect strength milk drink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve82 View Post
    Get smaller cups.
    I use 21g / 22g VST 1:2 brew ratio, split into 2 x 150ml cups, makes perfect strength milk drink.
    Well that's a simple solution, thank you. However I really like the cups we have, and I think I will have a WAF issue with a smaller drink.

    Working on your figures. I'm guessing around 30ml of coffee in each cup with around 90ml of milk, giving a ratio of 1:3, which is what the recommendation is, after a little more research.

    Perhaps I should consider a smaller dose, say 18g yielding around 45ml with 185ml of milk for a ratio of around 1:4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beensean View Post
    Just a casual coffee drinker view here, that seems to me a massive amount of milk. No wonder you up the dose by 50%. Even so, our comparison latte would be what I think is more traditional, 30 mL coffee with 60 mL of milk (90 mL for my wife).

    if I assume your 21g 30 mL is equivalent to 45 mL of my 14g dose (a working assumption) then your milk to coffee ratio is still 4.4 to 1, where ours are 2:1 or 3:1 (and I do not normally drink latte anyway).

    You say a double shot into one cup is too strong. At that point your milk to coffee ratio is 2.2 to 1. Now we have parameters. If you like using 21g of coffee, adjust your milk downwards, or dose down and milk down further.
    Yes, you are right! I have way more milk than is recommended for a latte. Perhaps I'll try again with a double shot, but a smaller one.

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    Pull a double ristretto into 1 cup - 30mL volume in total. Might be the happy medium. If a double shot is too strong, pull the shot earlier.

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