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    Single basket issues

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    Hello!
    This is my first post to this wonderful helpful forum.

    I purchased my first machine, Rocket Giotto, a lot thanks to different posts here.

    So far, I am very happy with my new toy and very thrilled to improve my skills.

    First issue I run into. I am using a single basket portafilter and having some inconsistency issue.

    Let's assume for a second that I got the grinding right, which might not be the case, but I tried many different settings, and with each one of them, I still find it hard to be consistance.
    So, my issue, I think, is the dosage. I am trying anything between 8 gr to 14 gr. 8 is definitely not enough. from 10 gr and 14 gr I can get great results, but unable to create consistancy with different coffees.

    Which makes me think that I might need to choose the right amount and work with the grinder to get to the right result? Doesn't make sense?
    For some reason, I think it would be the easiest way for me, as I can wight the beans easily before I grind them and then work with the grinder.

    Also, I might have an issue with the single basket shape. An uneducated newbie like me just don't find the right way to temper it evenly as the bottom of the basket is narrower.

    Any tips here?
    Would it be right to focus on certain weight of beans and work later with the grinder? This at least gives me one constant.

    Thanks,

    Zizobb

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    Welcome Zizzob,

    Most people would strongly recommend that you switch to using the double basket (at least until you are comfortable with that). There is a lot less margin for error when using a single basket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Welcome Zizzob,

    Most people would strongly recommend that you switch to using the double basket (at least until you are comfortable with that). There is a lot less margin for error when using a single basket.

    Welcome to Coffee Snobs Zizobb.

    Cant argue with Barry's logic here, most find the double basket much more forgiving than the single, once having come to terms with the double majority of users (myself included) stick with it, I certainly find double shots a lot more satisfying than single, regardless of the coffee being made, greater intensity of flavour, more viscous mouth feel, greater volume = more satisfying drink.

    Good luck with your efforts.
    Last edited by Yelta; 19th November 2018 at 04:56 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zizobb View Post
    Hello!
    This is my first post to this wonderful helpful forum.

    I purchased my first machine, Rocket Giotto, a lot thanks to different posts here.

    So far, I am very happy with my new toy and very thrilled to improve my skills.

    First issue I run into. I am using a single basket portafilter and having some inconsistency issue.

    Let's assume for a second that I got the grinding right, which might not be the case, but I tried many different settings, and with each one of them, I still find it hard to be consistance.
    So, my issue, I think, is the dosage. I am trying anything between 8 gr to 14 gr. 8 is definitely not enough. from 10 gr and 14 gr I can get great results, but unable to create consistancy with different coffees.

    Which makes me think that I might need to choose the right amount and work with the grinder to get to the right result? Doesn't make sense?
    For some reason, I think it would be the easiest way for me, as I can wight the beans easily before I grind them and then work with the grinder.

    Also, I might have an issue with the single basket shape. An uneducated newbie like me just don't find the right way to temper it evenly as the bottom of the basket is narrower.

    Any tips here?
    Would it be right to focus on certain weight of beans and work later with the grinder? This at least gives me one constant.
    Hi Zizobb,

    As others have said the double basket (if you have one) will be much easier to get used to, and is more forgiving of little inconsistencies that we all have when we start. My advice would be get used to that before trying the single. Even if you still have some trouble with the single you know you can make a good coffee with the double.

    If you want to keep working with the single basket, my advice would be the following:

    Choose a dose of ground coffee to use and stick to it. If you change the dose, everything else will probably have to change. The dose is the foundation of the coffee recipe. From what you're saying above I'd say start with 10g. Then pick your yield (weight of liquid coffee you get from a shot), start with 20g, a ratio of 1:2. You can change the yield without changing the dose, but if you change the dose you will have to change the yield. After that figure out the time you want it to take to get 20g yield. Start with aiming for 27-30s. Use the setting on your grinder to change the time, not your tamp or anything else.

    As for tamping, it needs to be level and flat, that is crucial. Other than that how hard you press etc doesn't matter, as long as you do it the same every time.

    When you say you're unable to create consistency with different coffees, are you expecting the same setting on your grinder to produce the same shots for different coffee beans? Because that won't happen, you will need to adjust the grinder.
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    No one really uses single baskets these days.

    Stick with the double, they produce far better results.

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    Thanks all. Ditching the single basket for now.
    Will be back to it a bit later. I still like the challenge



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