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Thread: Smart WIFI Powerpoint for coffee machine

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    Smart WIFI Powerpoint for coffee machine

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    Hi everyone,

    Thinking of getting a smart powerpoint to heat up my machine before I get home/wake up so itís ready to go. Would be good for when youíre out and invite people over as well.

    Does anyone use one and rate them well?

    The one Iím looking at is the TP-LINK HS110. Bunnings sell it for $49
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    Smart WIFI Powerpoint for coffee machine

    Yes those are fine and the associated app works well and is reliable.

    I use them for my garden lights.
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    yep i use that model with the energy monitoring - it’s excellent. highly recommend.
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    Awesome, thank you. I’ll pop into Bunnings today.

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    I am going to buy this one from Bunnings for my Profitec 500: https://www.bunnings.com.au/brillian...arger_p0091644

    Only $20 and compatible with Google Assistant and apps etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by javameister View Post
    I am going to buy this one from Bunnings for my Profitec 500: https://www.bunnings.com.au/brillian...arger_p0091644

    Only $20 and compatible with Google Assistant and apps etc
    I'm using this on my Expobar and it's great. I'd suggest using the app called "Tuya Smart" which is the company behind the circuitry. There are literally dozens of branded devices that use the Tuya brains and it's much simpler to use a single app rather than a dozen different ones.
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    Update: I bought the one I originally posted and set it up. Super easy and and working well. Looking forward to setting the schedule mode for when I’m on day shifts.
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    Just back from Bunnings as well. The $20 Brilliant smart plug is rated 10A/2400W. Is it safe to use with Profitec 500? I dont have the specs handy but a quick search had a few sites saying this machine was 15A.
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    It's only got a 1400W heating element, it'll be under 2400W total. Check the label on the machine for exact wattage rating.
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    240v x 10amps is 2400 watts....ie the max for a 10 amp GPO. So...a coffee machine sold here with a 10 amp plug is not permitted by the Regs to draw more than 2400 watts in Australia. The little switch I suspect has to offer than same current carrying capacity as a GPO ie 10 amps so will be right for any 10amp piece of equipment that meets Au regs. So yep Profitec sold here with 10 amp plug should be fine.

    I am getting one of these for my new Mitica TOP. Great idea.

    Cheers
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    Thanks for confirming. All set up now so the machine turns on at 6:30am and off at 9am. And can switch on as needed using the app. Such a handy little switch at a reasonable price.
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    Hey Alexa... turn on the coffee machine.

    Yes Dave. That would be my pleasure.
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    Haha. Hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    Hey Alexa... turn on the coffee machine.

    Yes Dave. That would be my pleasure.
    Or as updated for today's world:

    Hey Alexa... turn on the coffee machine.

    <Checking with the Master Controller in China...Authorized...Controller Access granted>

    Yes Dave. That would be my pleasure.


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    Out intrepid home barista Dave issues the usual morning command

    "Open the pod bay doors, HAL."

    And is met with the baffling response,

    "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."

    Seems the POD machine has malfunctioned:

    Dave: What's the problem?
    HAL
    : I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.

    I'm sure there are some creative types among us who can take this a lot further.
    open pod bay door.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by javameister View Post
    I am going to buy this one from Bunnings for my Profitec 500: https://www.bunnings.com.au/brillian...arger_p0091644

    Only $20 and compatible with Google Assistant and apps etc
    Thanks for posting this - I'd been looking for a while and had just about decided to buy the TP-Link but hesitated because I think it would block both outlets on a dual switch. This one didn't come up on any google search for smart plugs. The Brilliant Smart WiFi plug is slim enough to leave the second outlet free. I had a slight issue with pairing but this was solved by re-booting router and mobile. So far, it has been great - schedule works and manual button easy to locate. Early days but I love having a warm machine to wake up to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghilkie View Post
    I love having a warm machine to wake up to.
    Make of that, what you will
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghilkie View Post
    Thanks for posting this - I'd been looking for a while and had just about decided to buy the TP-Link but hesitated because I think it would block both outlets on a dual switch. This one didn't come up on any google search for smart plugs. The Brilliant Smart WiFi plug is slim enough to leave the second outlet free. I had a slight issue with pairing but this was solved by re-booting router and mobile. So far, it has been great - schedule works and manual button easy to locate. Early days but I love having a warm machine to wake up to.
    I used the TP-Link on a dual horizontal power point and still had enough room for the grinder power plug.

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    been using mine for about 5 months.love it

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    If anyone is still looking for a smart plug.
    Amazon is selling the TP-Link hs110 for $28.
    https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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    Very good deal

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    Hi Guys, I don't know conversion rates or transport costs if any, but Centre Com sell them for $39. Chippy
    that is for an HS 110 Bunnings want $47.90
    Last edited by chippy; 11th June 2019 at 03:14 PM. Reason: more info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny1123 View Post
    If anyone is still looking for a smart plug.
    Amazon is selling the TP-Link hs110 for $28.
    https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Officeworks has them for $28 also.

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    I use the TP link too. I also have a surge protector power board. A small insurance against unlikely surges but if you get a surge and the smoke comes out of your machine or grinder it can cost a fortune to put the smoke back in.
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    Bunnings has the wifi power switches for $10 once. Should have grabbed a heap. These worked with Alexa etc.


    I have an Arlec from bunnjngs. It was much cheaper than the equivalent wemo at the time.

    Cheers

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    Hi again, Centrecom are having a sale? again. $23 Don't know for how long. Chippy

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    Hi all,

    I'd love to find a switch with realtime power monitoring readout via phone or computer app so that I can get a remote power readout for my roaster whilst roasting. So I'd want super low latency so that I can get a realtime readout on how much juice my element is sucking down. I've got a crappy remote switch that has a bit too much lag in this to be useful. Does anyone have any experience with the tplink HS110 on this? Is the power readout laggy? Does anyone have any recommendations for something that is not?

    Cheers,
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    Luca a friend of mine had one which was just a plug in one and was instant. Was about $120 but was just plug in with single plug out and readout, not meeting your requirement of an app. I wonder if the Bluetooth or wifi element is what produces the lag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luca View Post
    Hi all,

    Does anyone have any experience with the tplink HS110 on this? Is the power readout laggy?
    HS110 does this exactly and is near instantaneous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herzog View Post
    HS110 does this exactly and is near instantaneous.
    Sweet, thanks!

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    Bit of an old thread but I thought I would add to it.
    We have been using a Belkin Wemo switch for a few years.
    Old model, bit clunky to get it talking to Google Home (had to use IFTTT applet) and then it started getting flaky. App couldn't turn it on/off so decided to splash out on a new plug yesterday.
    Got the TP-Link HS100 (the non power monitoring model) from Bunnings for $29.
    Downloaded the app, quick and easy to set up. Very easy to connect to Google Home and to share across 2 google log ins (myself and wife). Schedule is easy to set up. App comes with some widgets as well.
    All in all, very happy with this one.

    Brett.
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    Hi all

    And the neighbours and anyone passing by doing a bit of fun Wardriving (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardriving) will also find it useful :-)

    The TP-LINK devices have encryption but it's trivial. One breakdown of the TP-LINK's Kasa App said it used a Caesar cipher for its encryption and the key is hard-coded into the app ! That's actually hard to believe, maybe the young Chinese programmer did a Wikipedia search for "cipher" and not "encryption" and so came across that one first :-) Another security breakdown said it used an autokey cipher, (with initial key "171") either way that's not encryption.

    But then TP-LINK isn't alone. Other IoT products from Belkin, Broadlink and LIFX are all insecure. Most have no encryption at all and its trivial to hijack the link. Generally as a product they just provide the functionality that you want plus a gateway into your network because they don't care. For a newbie wardriver they can turn on your coffee machine, for an experienced wardriver, your network is a stepping stone to someone or somewhere else.

    Here is some reading whilst you enjoy that coffee: https://www.softscheck.com/en/revers...tp-link-hs110/ and https://www.troopers.de/downloads/tr...nk_hacking.pdf
    I particularly liked the code whereby you can toggle the state of the smart plug on/off every 50 milliseconds :-)

    Mike
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    Further to Mike's comments these sort of devices, refrigerator, etc should be connected to a guest network on your router, not your main network and with no access to your main network.

    Mike would be pretty amusing the off and on in 50 milliseconds, depending on the device

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    Used it too - can recommend

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpbarista View Post
    Used it too - can recommend
    Hmmm 4 short, vague posts, across 4 threads in 10 minutes. What did you 'use too'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpbarista View Post
    Used it too - can recommend
    And just what is it you can recommend?


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    Not sure why the passive aggressive tone?

    I tried to reply to this comment "Bunnings has the wifi power switches for $10 once. Should have grabbed a heap. These worked with Alexa etc." but failed to quote correctly.

    I hope that answers your question.

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    JpBarista, I would guess your answer might not. There is a few brands referred to here, the TP Link, the Brilliant which was on special at $10 (now $15). The post you are referring to seems to reference the Brilliant. Your last post still really hasn't provided any clarity at all on which brand or model you recommend, I genuinely have no clue.

    Ps welcome to the forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpbarista View Post
    Not sure why the passive aggressive tone?
    People tend to react that way when a new user joins and immediately makes multiple vague posts as more often than not they have an ulterior motive. Such aaccounts are typically a spammer or someone who is here only to make a quick sale and then disappear.

    I hope that answers your question.
    Yup.


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