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    Coffeejack - pocket espresso maker

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    Make of it what you will. I can see some limitations eg cup size, shot size (14g is half a shot, no?)

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...sized-barista?

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    Thats a big yeah nuh from me, physics alone you would not get same heat transfer as a proper machine, this going by what others say in office, appealing to the milenial hipster greenies who dont know taste,
    I couldnt see myself using one, even the aeropress i thought was a waste of money!
    But i could be cynical!

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    I publically discussed a design using a similar principle several months ago and have since built two machine based on it. Unless the patent only covers the valve, it looks likely to fail on non-obviousness.

    And yes, heat loss is a big problem.
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    I can't see that it's likely to be any worse than a flair would be for espresso. I'm curious as to whether it may make a satisfactory hand luggage traveller with a good hand grinder. I'll try it with my Precision.

    If the concept works, I'm happy to manage the heat limitations of anything which uses this model. I funded one a few weeks ago.
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    I can get the important bits of my Flair pretty hot, and the solid metal holds the heat pretty well too.

    but I've been using a minipresso for travel and I previously used a handpresso. I can make reasonable coffee with either. But probably would do better with better heat retention. Regardless, this thing looks like it's much smaller and hopefully also lighter. Might help me in my quest to travel for work with hand luggage only.

    I won't rush but I'm certainly tempted.

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    Why are people so intent on making a portable espresso maker? Espresso is the worst way to brew coffee.

    Iím also a bit confused - they say in the video that it doesnít use any consumables. What do you put in it then?

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    I thought the video said no plastic consumables, so I would assume Aeropress filters. Looks like it won't be much closer to espresso than the Kompresso

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Why are people so intent on making a portable espresso maker? Espresso is the worst way to brew coffee.
    i think the marketing plays on the idea of modern comforts in a camping situation. which i think is dumb. i hate camping, but for sure i would love like a billy of coffee over futsing around with little parts for a coffee experience that will last less than ten seconds.

    Iím also a bit confused - they say in the video that it doesnít use any consumables. What do you put in it then?
    ground coffee, which is metal-filtered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Why are people so intent on making a portable espresso maker? Espresso is the worst way to brew coffee.
    Well each to his own but I am of the opposite opinion: If I can't get a decent espresso I'll drink tea.

    Since I often end up out of reach of any of my three machines, especially when I'm in the high country in winter (I'm a keen XC ski racer), I decided to try to make one I could take with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodhouse View Post
    i think the marketing plays on the idea of modern comforts in a camping situation. which i think is dumb. i hate camping, but for sure i would love like a billy of coffee over futsing around with little parts for a coffee experience that will last less than ten seconds.


    ground coffee, which is metal-filtered.
    Ground coffee is a consumable is it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Ground coffee is a consumable is it not?
    well, so is water. do you expect to pull a spro from thin air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    I thought the video said no plastic consumables, so I would assume Aeropress filters. Looks like it won't be much closer to espresso than the Kompresso
    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Ground coffee is a consumable is it not?
    I'm pretty sure they said "no plastic consumables"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Why are people so intent on making a portable espresso maker? Espresso is the worst way to brew coffee.
    On the contrary many people (myself included) believe it's far and away the best method of making coffee.
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    I love most brewing methods, including Espresso.
    Each method brings a different perspective to the result in the cup and like Yelta says above, "Vive la difference."

    Mal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    On the contrary many people (myself included) believe it's far and away the best method of making coffee.
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    You believe itís the best or you like it the most?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    You believe itís the best or you like it the most?

    I believe its the best and I like it the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    I'm pretty sure they said "no plastic consumables"

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    In that part of the video thatís what they say but then towards the end they say ďCoffee Jack uses no pods, filter or consumablesĒ with this screen showing -


    I guess they mean other things like pods and filters, but have just explained themselves badly. This could be a very good product but the video and the sales pitch are ridiculous. They want to stop people buying take away coffee? When most takeaway beverages are milk coffees how do they account for that? We all know that pouring dead flat milk into your espresso whether itís cold or heated gives a completely different end result to what you get from a cafe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    I believe its the best and I like it the most.
    I really like espresso, but in my opinion itís a fairly average brew method. What is it about espresso that makes you think itís the best Yelta?

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    Well there it is, missed that.
    I agree, but to be fair most Kickstarter videos are awful. If the Niche Zero was sold on its video alone it would have been lucky to reach double digit sales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    I really like espresso, but in my opinion itís a fairly average brew method. What is it about espresso that makes you think itís the best Yelta?

    No mystery Leroy, simply a matter of personal preference.



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