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    Espresso Vivace in Seattle

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    Hey Guys,...

    I have just returned from the states, and I did spend a little bit of time in Seattle, reputably the coffee capital of the US. *I went to the very first Starbucks -- whoopppeeee,... *hey, I can say Ive seen it!
    Personally,.. Starbucks does NOTHING for me,.. *but Americans seen to love it. Triple Half Caf Fancy Vanilla Coffee Grande - give me a break! *They cant make a decent coffee to save themselves!

    I tried Seattles Best Coffee,... another chain store over there, and once youve had that, no one would blame you for giving up,... figuring if that is the best they have to offer, theres no hope!

    Eventually, after a lead from Robusto, I found my way to Espresso Vivace. Whilst its interesting what they produce as a Latte (what we would refer to as a Flat White) and a Cappuccino (what we would refer to as a Flat white..?!?! :-/) and their menu states that a cappuccino is a Long Latte *:-/.... *their coffee is exceptionally good. *The atmosphere inside this particular cafe was outstanding. *Finally, a decent coffee experience in the US. *I was impressed.

    Here are a couple of quick pics I snapped... *I LOVED their floor mosaics!








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    Re: Espresso Vivace in Seattle

    I attended a latte art workshop last night and watched a video on the art produced by the founder of Vivace, lucky you for trying out his wares in person. I like the style he produces compared to the cafes around that have hot milk with a bit of froth on top, he uses a ristretto base for his coffee as well which gives a sweet creamy crema.

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    Actually looked like the coffee i had there too. I didnt like the crema and the extraction on the blend they used. Also i thought the blend didnt match the synesso. As you can see the crema has is bubbling out the milk. Dosing by sight and also using reallllllly fresh coffee is going to do that. The flavours dont look balanced. Sorry i wasnt a fan of Vivace. Good coffee but i was getting better coffee in the smaller cafes around Seattle.
    With several Vivaces operating they have done a great job with the cafes and having soooo many good baristi. Customers at these cafes are so well trained. They make it easier for the cafes and if Australian customers were like people in Seattle our coffee would be 40 percent better.

    The Aussie and Kiwis are soooo much better in latte art.

    Seattle food scene is magic and the coffee is one of the best in the world. A city full of L.Ms and synessos.

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    Re: Espresso Vivace in Seattle

    My experience was the same as AndyL.

    I must say I was a little disappointed.

    Seattle has awesome food and a huge range of really high quality specialty coffee roasters. The baristas just were a bit off the pace. Go Roasters!

    Down in Portland it seemed the complete opposite. The baristas were much better. Unfortunately the vast majority of the top cafes were all using Stumptown beans. How boring.

    I thought Albina Press in Portland was vastly better than Vivace. Attention to detail.

    No where I could find performed the latte art as well as the top cafes in Australia. We have a long way to go to match the Seattle roasting scene though.


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    Stumptown has really taken over Portland. It does seem a little boring, i guess competition makes everyone better. It could be worst. Illys all over Portland.
    Baristi were pretty damn slow at Vivace. 1000 clicks to pull one shot and then it comes out all bubble like. Line was out the door, because of the speed. A baristi on each synesso, and i honestly believe i could make coffee faster than both of them put together. They looked half asleep. I love when you see a barista pumping and in a zone.
    Great to see COE in sooo many roasters.

    San Francisco... Blue Bottle. Amazing and blew me away. Top 10 best coffees i have ever had.

    Best coffee i had in Seattle was at the synesso warehouse. Those boys make great machines and also can make great coffee.


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    Re: Espresso Vivace in Seattle

    Hehehe ... I had some vivace vita earlier this year. I thought it was quite good. Its nice to see them taking a stand and going with monsooned malabar and robusta in that blend.

    Cheers,

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    hey Luca what did you have the Vivace thru?
    Because it doesnt work on the synesso

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    Re: Espresso Vivace in Seattle

    Billy at the Albina Press is doing a wonderful job. Visited there and the original Stumptown location when I went home to Portland last year.

    There is some sort of espresso place on nearly every corner. The place is saturated.

    Whilst the latte art may be lacking, the coffee scene is definitely huge compared to here in Oz. Whether the quality is the same is up for debate.

    Most of the west coast of the U.S. (L.A., San Francisco, Eugene (OR), Portland Metro, and Seattle) are packed with great places to have coffee.

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    Re: Espresso Vivace in Seattle

    Sounds like I need more experience, ... and more sampling!!! ::)

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    Is so sad in the U.S when you see guys using a synesso, with great coffee, great baristi, knowledge on espresso and equipment, running several grinders and great latte art, and people are asking for frappe with vanilla.

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    Re: Espresso Vivace in Seattle

    Now I know just what to order when I come visit you Andy :P

    Gotta get down to Melb one of these days...

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    Re: Espresso Vivace in Seattle

    Andy Id like a double decaf skinny soy mocha latte.....:O

    Would you kick me out of TMR if I did that? ;D

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    Re: Espresso Vivace in Seattle

    David Schomer looks and sounds like an obsessive, compulsive perfectionist. Someone who finds no inner peace knowing his equipment is half a degree short of ideal.

    There are strict cleaning regimes in his cafes, frequent grind re-settings, and even using water tanks in preference to mains water supply which may fluctuate and therefore affect pump pressure.

    I would like to believe that all this meticulous dedication translates into giving consumers a great cup of coffee.

    If it does not...it it is all to no avail.... what hope for the rest of them.

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    He is a perfectionist. He wanted the guys at synesso to take the machine apart and clean every part. Which would be 28 hours work. Takes 24 hours to make a new one. Talking to the guys in L.A cafe Luxe that was trained by him, even they are really compulsive.

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    Re: Espresso Vivace in Seattle

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedd link=1189576742/0#0 date=1189576742

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    Eventually, after a lead from Robusto, I found my way to Espresso Vivace.
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    Was that cafe on 4th Street near Pike Place Market? I am trying to remember the name of a good espresso shop I found in that vicinity a few years ago. It had a very large copper/brass? boiler machine on the counter.

    Cheers

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    Re: Espresso Vivace in Seattle

    there is a cafe named cherry street coffee house. I had a great coffee there in 4th. Amazing espresso and great latte art. I would rate it really high

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    Re: Espresso Vivace in Seattle

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    No,.. *the vivace outlet I went to werent on 4th.. *and they dont seem to have a retail outlet on 4th. *

    Cheers,

    M.



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