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    The Pav goes large... come election day

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight

    Well, my wife went and did it. She volunteered me and the Pav for coffee duties at our local school/polling booth on election day...

    OMG what has she done......

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    There goes all your greens - hope your charging per cup.... :-)

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    Just dont be to Liberal with your dosing or your machine will Labor too much!! If you are truly a Democrat with your service everyone will know you are an Independent. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

    OMG is right Sparky - you are a very brave man!!! But would have to be even braver to say "no" I fear.....

    Whilst I enjoy making coffees for large groups of guests.... that would be totally OTT!!! ::)

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    Re: The Pav goes large... come election day

    Damn not being able to vote in a different electorite.

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    Im not sure Im going to do the coffee justice, but I plan on showcasing Andys EspressoWow and maybe generate a few more CS members in the process...

    Should be fun... ish

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    Sparky, mate ...

    Itll be a predominantly milk-based audience vote-day, I can assure you. So IMHO, Andys blend wont cut through the milky stuff.

    Espresso Wow ... fantastically changing blend in nuances over a week post-roast as pure espresso, promising as a piccolo, but lost in the unfortunate large flat white crowd youll encounter polling day ...

    As some hopeful pre-electoral assistance-pointers, Id proffer the following:

    1) Whats powering the Pav, & grinder?;
    2) Wheres your (hopefully refrigerated) milk stored?;
    3) Could be the perfect showcase for your own blend mate ... blend, roast, grind your own & you might get a yeah baby factor?

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    Im pretty excited about using EspressoWow and I dont expect it will disappoint. As for my performance... well see, afterall its not my day job.

    Using a home roast is not an option IMO. I dont mind being a ginea pig, but Im not happy to subject others to my misadventures unless Im personally happy with the product. Besides, Im looking at 4 kg of beans, which will take some roasting at home.

    Milk may be stored in a bar fridge or an esky... Im estimating about 20l. The Pav is running on 15A at the moment. I dont think Ill be able to keep up with it, so that should be fine. I plan on uping the pstat a bit for this show. *

    My main concern is the water. Ill run a tank, but am still considering the size Ill need. Im thinking about 25l.

    Ill probably run the grinder the way it was designed on auto fill, if it gets too busy, or Im going nuts with the orders.

    The menu is also a consideration. Im looking at Cappuccino, flat white, latte, espresso, long black... Anything else and they can go to a real cafe. Anything with latte art will cost $8 for the added stress on the barista.

    Im looking at around 200 drinks served... I may never want to make coffee again after this.

    Cheers,

    Mark.

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    Hey Mark, feel free to pm me with any questions re your big day out - Ive done every event/function imaginable over the past 5 yrs in my mobile op, so can probably offer a few tips to minimise any grief on the day. ;)

    Seems like your estimates are reasonable - 20l milk should be sufficient for 200 cups (depending on what size youre offering? 8oz or 12oz or both???). What pstat have you got the Pav currently running at, & what are you envisaging for the day?

    25l water sounds fine.

    Menu wise ... what, no caramel infused affogatos?! Yeah, keep it simple - remember in takeaway cups a latte is just a flat white with a pretty swirl on top, and a cap is just a latte dusted with choc. One suggestion - offer hot chocs for the kiddies. Thought about pricing?

    Another friendly tip - remember your gender & recognise that multi-tasking will be deeply challenging. Enlist someone as a sidekick to take the orders while you concentrate on creating a magical symbiosis between Espresso Wow & The Pav. At the risk of sounding presumptuous (because you may have this one covered), have a (large) notepad for your sidekick to vertically list the orders in abbreviated form (3 columns on A4 I use), WITH THE CORRELATING CUSTOMERS NAME NEXT TO THEIR ORDER (do you kinda get the feeling I am emphasising this as important ;D) Believe me mate, if youre flat out this will prevent confusion & ensure the customer gets what they ordered - I learnt this one very early in my op :-[. Cross each order off when theyre done.

    Lastly, & importantly, relax & have fun - let the adrenalin do the rest ...

    Where is it Mark - I might just fork out $8 to witness your whiz-bang latte art for myself (or ... mmm ... drive by with my op & poach all your customers BWAHAHAHAH!) ;D

    cheers
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    The last outdoor event I did I grabbed a couple of drink fountain bottles from work.



    Easy to cart, you can put a hole in the cap for the hose and that keeps the dust out (although I still ran an inline filter because it was there). I was surprised just how little water I used.

    For milk, Eskys with plenty of ice, kept in the shade worked well.

    A couple of large plastic containers made a good sink for the milk jugs, one container for the "wash" and one for a "clean rinse" and they were swapped/refilled during the day.

    Take plenty of towels/clothes/rags? for keeping your work area clean and careful with that milk (unless yogurt is getting added to the menu)! :)

    Dont forget tea (I used CS tea in a plunger) and hot chocolate... (we sold a mile of hot chocolate to kids). Both are easy to do and adds something for those weirdos that dont like coffee.
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    (snap on the hot choc Tony, posted this then read yours)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1193613213/0#9 date=1193715335
    (snap on the hot choc Tony, posted this then read yours)
    Ha! :) Great minds ...

    Yes, plenty of sponges - & on that water spillage point, make sure The Pav is as level as possible - theres only one drainage point under the drip-tray & thats in the middle. If you are on a slight angle, run some water through the groups before youre in action, look under the grill, see where its accumulating & stick a few sponges under the grill on that side to soak it up.

    Another thing thats a BIG seller is cookies (especially to the kiddies, because I place a tempting variety of jars purposefully at kiddy eye-level so they can bug their frazzled parents into buying them one, or several ... HEHEHE [smiley=evil.gif]). pm me if youd like to know my supplier Mark ...


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    oh, almost forgot - have a couple of stubbies in that iced-up esky to reward yourself on surviving the day (ahh, AFTER the events finished mate, not before!) [smiley=beer.gif]

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    Thanks guys, Im soaking it all up.

    I figured Id need to get on top of he orders and was thinking of how to do it. I was thinking post-it notes...

    Hot choc and tea... Ok consider it added. I actually had the hot choc in mind.. but I completely forgot about tea... I guess some people drink it.

    The event is at Payne rd. primary school, The Gap. The P&C will do the cakes and stuff.

    PStat is currently at 0.9 bar. I will up it to at least 1 bar. I dont want to go too high and risk burning the coffee...


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    Re: The Pav goes large... come election day

    Im also doing a poling both as a fund raiser for a local catholic primary school.

    Im told they expect to get between 5 to 10 thousand people through on the day, so at least it shouldnt be too busy!

    Ill also be loading up on the bulk spring water to fire up the machine, and Ive invested in a Super Jolly grinder after the last funder raiser, as my poor old Rocky didnt really cut it!

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    Mark, forget the post-it notes - theyll fly if its a windy day (another hard lesson I learned!)

    Jot the orders down on a large pad, with a bulldog clip to stop pages flinging about.

    Forget my cookies idea - rather see profit for food go to a P&C.

    My NS Mac runs at 9 bar, & has no probs whatsoever during ultra-busy events - Id keep it at that, or else Ol Pav will be running a tad too hot I reckon. Personally I reckon 10 bars too high.

    Good luck mate - hope you wow the crowd with the WOW!


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    Re: The Pav goes large... come election day

    another option for milk is UHT organic - I use the Spaceway house blend, then cooling the milk is less of an issue - which works well if its a cool day, but I havent tried it when its warm.

    Ive got a glow in the dark space egg fridge which runs off 12 volts which I also use to rotate the milk -it doesnt hold much but its a conversation starter b/c it has purple fluro side panels - but it has to be dark to be able to really see the lighting effect

    Im running with my Bezzera Domus and a Super Jolly, or, if I get super motivated, i might just grab the Compak K10 from work for the day - then I should have no trouble keeping up with orders!

    Last time I had a helper just to take orders though, and I think that this is an excellent idea, as you cant be expected to do everything yourself.

    Ill be using the same coffee that I use at my work and will be charging $3 for a 8oz and $4 for a 12oz, with $1 from every small coffee, and $2 from every large going towards the fundraiser.

    I also premix my chocolate with water, so all I have to do is squeeze and go on the day

    Should be a bit of fun

    Cheers,

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    UHT Pat! :P Even though organic, lets give customers the fresh stuff surely mate ...

    My dividend/% of turnover compensation to the body that hires me is similar to yours - though in Sparkys situation here, it sounds voluntary to re-coup costs alone (?? Mark) - any profit if I did such a gig Id like to filter to the P&C (cause I champion them).

    Considering the political context of your BDO Mark, try & have ol Pav as level as possible - ya dont want him leaning too much left, or right ;)

    Fun, yes

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    Yep, its totally for charity, so all profits to the P&C.

    As for politics, I figure Ill charge according to which way they lean. I figure libs wont mind paying and extra couple of bucks given the strong economy. With the trend towards economic conservatism, therell be a 10c reduction for labour voters and greens can get anything for a dollar (as long as they can prove that they voted green, like having dreads, driving a combi or providing proof that they burnt their Midnight Oil collection).

    Hows that sound?

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    Youre in safe Lib territory Ryan ... wont see any combis pulling up for a soy chai-latte mate!

    Plenty of 4WDs parked, aggressively no doubt, & prepare for plenty of latte orders from the drivers ...

    All fun, might pop by, as a mate in Ashgrove is holding an election party that night to celebrate democracy in action ...

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    Certainly I agree that when it comes to milk fresh is best but its an interesting debate when it comes to considering the carbon footprint, as fresh needs to be constantly cooled, which is very energy inefficient.

    Its a debate thats raging in England at the moment, where 93% of all milk consumed is fresh, Vs France, where 97% of all milk consumed is UHT

    Taste is a big factor also, but the UHT organic milk I use comes up pretty good in a coffee, and I would be interesting to do a blind tasting with this Vs fresh milk to see who could pick the difference.

    Also, its not exactly a cost-saving measure, coz the organic costs more, its more about convenience on the day!

    Still, I have a think about fresh on the day, it just adds to the organisation a bit, having to grab an esky and rotate the ice when youre busy, which is a bit of a pain.

    I could refrigerate the UHT at my work, which would make it a bit more palpable on the day...


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    Youre a very brave man Sparky.... But we live in a democracy, so we have to do what our wives tell us.

    On the plus side, doing 200 coffees in a row should do wonders for your technique, so think of it as distilling a few months of trial and error into a few hours.

    Best of luck---and dont forget to vote.


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    A few hours?? I was looking at 4-5 hours. I dont reckon I could make 200 coffees in less than that. I mean I have to wipe down the puck to remove all loose grinds and make sure it is solid and well presented before taking it to the Pav...

    Some of us may live in a democracy. My wife felt she needed to do something to help during the day, so volunteering me has given her a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

    Cheers,

    Mark.

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    Well this is it... one final clean and a few last minute checks and then the Pav gets out the door and plays in the real world... Were looking at over 200 coffees... as long as I and the Pav last that long.

    Thanks to Andy, Espresso Wow is on the menu. But skinny decaf soy lattes arent!

    It wasnt smooth sailing up to here, with the pump motor dying last week. Luckily I had a spare. It was most likely the capacitor, but the machine got a whole motor-ectomy. Also my boiler sprung a leak after I decided to switch the machine off during the day. It only leaks when its cold, so the thermal cycling has loosened a seal... Given it will require a strip down, Im leaving it for now and leaving the machine on from now on.

    Well see how it goes tomorrow....

    If anyone is in my neck of the woods, Ill be at the Payne rd primary school polling station, The Gap from 8am to say midday.

    Cheers,

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    About 2 hours to go now and Im worried that the milk jugs that have been sourced may not be up to the job. I should have gotten a larger jug for volume milk.... in to the nail biting phase now.

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    You should have 100 of those coffees done by now, and have worked out the best way to do it. I know you wont read this until after youve collapsed later today, but Ive done the P&C thing on election day, and just wanted to let you know that someone was thinking of you....

    Youre a good man, Mark.

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    ... I survived. 7am to 3pm straight.

    I had a great time and managed to keep within my capabilities. I only used one group in the Pav and kept the grinder quiet until a shot was required. The milk jug crisis was averted... only just and it all seemed to work well. There was a lot more just getting the machine there and warmed up. I was in an area without a sink or drain, so a couple of buckets sufficed for some rinsing water and a place to pour stale milk. Very few grinds were wasted as well. There was a tamper crisis a couple of days before, but that was handled with a trip to Super cheap for a nice gear stick knob and a chat to my mate Dave at the mech workshop, who lathed me up a nice stainless steel tamper and fit the gear stick knob to it... oh its such a beautiful thing and it really worked well during the day. My shots were very repeatable. I was actually a bit shocked by the improvement... So now my block of brass tamper will just have to serve as a paper weight...

    Espresso Wow worked out very well. A big thanks to Andy for his contribution. I expected more orders, but a deluge before the polls opened and the sausages on the barby seems to steal some customers. I was looking at 200 coffees but we probably only managed a tad more than 100...

    An enjoyable, but tiring day. But thats only because its not my day job.

    Cheers,

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    Ill get some piccies up soon

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    Re: The Pav goes large... come election day

    Did you do an espresso poll on the day to judge the voting trend?

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    Excellent.
    I thought of you a couple of times during the day (eg: when I voted, stood in a queue without a coffee etc etc)

    Im glad it all ran smooth Mark. I bet your whole coffee process improved too pulling 100 shots in a row.


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    It should have.
    I spent 10 hours making coffees at the Aroma Fest in Sydney and my coffees definitely improved.

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    Re: The Pav goes large... come election day

    Well done Sparky. Glad it went well.


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    Good on ya Mark - the tamper sounds like a doozy too!

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    Great stuff Mark :),

    Sounds like you had a pretty good day, unusual considering the purpose of the event... an election :o. Good on ya mate..... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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    Well done sparky!

    I ended up making around 70 coffees on election day - which is ok I guess, but, like yourself, I was geared up for more like 200, and I pre-made enough hot chocolate mix for something like 120 hot chocolates, but only ended up making a few on the day.

    I was at a Catholic Primary school in Caufield, which was great fun with some colourful characters coming through. But it was the first time that theyd hosted a polling both, and I dont think that they got anywhere near the numbers through that they were expecting

    I agree, its a big job just getting everything together for the day, and it took me at least an hour just to get everything together and to load the car!

    After all that I left my knockbox at home, and had to make do with gently knocking out on a makeshift rubbish bin, which I constructed out of a tall plastic washing basket.

    Took me at least half an hoour to dial the grind in - which was frustrating as of course first thing in the morning was one of the busiest times of the day - that and from 2pm to 3pm for some reason. Made most of my coffees between these two times

    The Domus performed like a champion, though, and I was happy with the quality of my shots after I finally got the grind right.

    I used UHT organic milk on the day, which I kept rotating through a small 12 volt bar fridge, whihc saved messing around with eskys and ice.

    It also means that my unused milk (of which there was quite a bit) can still be used at home at my leisure.

    Still got a kilo of beans to get through, though - but Ive divided these up into smaller zip-lock bags for better storage, and will prob give some away

    Any interesting conversations with the punters?

    Talking to all the different folks on the day was definitely a bonus for me.

    And it was good to see my equipment performing so well on the day!

    Cheers,

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    I actually underestimated the number of coffees as I was counting the number of shots, but at least half of those were doubles, so getting up towards 200.... maybe 150.

    GrindonDemand stopped by to order a caramel infused skinny soy latte... he was greeted with a friendy finger.

    Yeah the conversations were good and I had a bloke from Honeywell helping me out for a few hours who said hed keep an eye out for useful bits (RTDs, PIDs,Swagelok...) which a tinker can always use.

    The grind was sorted the day before and didnt really change too much. A tweak in the afterneen got some beautiful pours with that tiger-striping... Still the shots in styrofoam seemed less yummy than my home shots in nice porcelain cups.

    Ive been warned that the P&C have my number now...

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    Just thought Id mention that milk can be frozen for quite awhile, and when thawed there is not much difference then if it was fresh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky link=1193613213/30#33 date=1196021450
    GrindonDemand stopped by to order a caramel infused skinny soy latte... he was greeted with a friendy finger...
    AND I wanted decaf ... jeez, talk about dodgy customer service! ;D

    Great to meet you Mark - you & Pav were extracting some nice looking pours, & mine went down very nicely ;) I overheard some other customers commenting favourably as well.

    And, of course, I was very pleased to see that you were Grinding On Demand each & every coffee ...

    Good to see you survived the day mate!

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    I even had the rocky set up for decaf on the day - but just wasnt busy enough to warrant it!

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    Just read this post, and was absolutely chuffed to hear that the Pav made it out inot the open Mark!
    Excellent work! :D

    I made coffees for about 45 adults at our house warming, plus about 10 hot choccies for kids... I needed a helper to take and deliver orders, but that was stressful enough!

    Sounds like you wouldve had a very rewarding day tho,.. well done!

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    Better late than never. It seems I get busier during my holidays, but Ive finally managed to get a few pic of the Pav working hard during the election day stall. It looks like I made 160 coffees on the day, which was less than I was expecting and definitely below my capacity. Anyway it was a great day and I know what to expect the next time...

    My most humungous thanks to Andy for sponsoring the event. I really hope I did EspressoWow! justice.

    If you look closely youll notice the gear-stick tamper, which was brilliant.

    Cheers,

    Mark.





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