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    Has coffee lost some of the "why we drink itness"

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    what peoples thoughts on the general use of coffee in our society??

    To me it is about having a GREAT coffee - but more about the time had with other people while having a GREAT coffee..

    I think back to some docs ive seen on the beginnings of coffee in Ethiopia and how it was such a process to have coffee together (kinda special) and now people make up their instant caffeine hit for the morning, slam it down and get on with being stressed.

    Am I being too romantic and stupid to think that this is the way it should be?

    I reckon we as Coffee Snobs should start (or continue!!) a coffee revolution where its about the conversation not the caffeine :)

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    I would tend to agree with you on this Menace. From the limited pool of people that I have observed with this. When you bring up the subject of coffee the subject quickly turns to "how I need coffee to function throughout the day" as if they could not survive. Where as for me I love great coffee for sure, but love it more when it is coupled with conversation, or some time out by myself or with a book.

    I dont drink a lot of coffee each day typically but my wife and I make an effort to sit down and have a coffee together at some point during the day. This one coffee with her is often the only coffee I will have the entire day.

    Of course as coffee snobs there is probably more to it as well as in terms of trying to produce the perfect cup but that is a whole other story ;)

    I will gladly take part in your revolution :)

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    Re: Has coffee lost some of the "why we drink itne

    I was just thinking about this same issue this morning. I used to go down to my local coffee house before work everyday chat with the staff and the other regulars drink my coffee and go to work. Ever since Ive been making my own I now drink my morning coffee at home alone before work- but invariably it seems to be a rushed affair where its almost a medicinal tonic like a berocca and I dont get to enjoy it as much - barring weekends of course where I can take my time and enjoy a cup with my wife. Bring on the coffee revolution I say !

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    For me,.coffee has always been symbolic and associated with relaxing/timeout. There was only ever one cup of coffee a day (first one in the morning) that I really needed to have for that caffeine hit,.. but since using 100% arabica fresh home roasted coffee beans instead of the instant garb I used to drink.. even this cup in the morning has become more associated with timeout than any real need for a hit. This morning cup comes after I have gotten everyone up and out of bed,..made all their hot chocs/breakfasts and I have 15mins for me with an awesome coffee in hand, and I so look forward to these few minutes of my day. I can sit at the computer, check my emails and the forum, relax quietly before the madness of the day really begins. The kids mostly leave me alone in this time, but some days there are constant interruptions where I am asked to fill out forms, write notes, sign this, find that, *during my coffee time and OMG it annoys me *>:( ;D

    I have learned to accept that most coffees I have outside of the home are not going to be as nice as how I make it,.. but it hasnt been too hard to accept because when out,..it has never really been about seeking great coffee anyway,..to be honest when I look back at it,.. I dont think I was ever overly impressed with any coffee I had while out, coffee to me back then was just,.. meh. It was always more about taking some quiet time out and enjoying the company Im with for 30mins,..just so happens that coffee was the easiest beverage to go with.

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    Re: Has coffee lost some of the "why we drink itne

    During the week on a schedule - then coffee is a pick me up. However on the weekend I have a cup of coffee with the wife with breakfast at a slower pace and then we plan where we are going for a coffee later in the morning. We have several premises we frequent and only one has what I would call great coffee but it is the journey and company.

    Coffee can be used to get one going, relax, commence conversations, or chill out. It is a versatile drink. ;)

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    When I had a stint in the middle east a few years back I noticed the culture there was great - wed make the coffee together too on break or before work, then share it. I enjoyed it so much I considered taking up smoking, just to mimic the romantic look of tiny cup of Arabic coffee and cigarette in the same hand.

    My rule is that coffee has to be shared with someone else. It makes for a better and richer break, and it also cuts down on my expenses during working hours.

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    Re: Has coffee lost some of the "why we drink itne

    Quote Originally Posted by danahooshmand link=1209736415/0#5 date=1209853083
    My rule is that coffee has to be shared with someone else. .

    I like it :) The more excuses we have to talk the better - theres never enough time otherwise.

    I think I might have a crack at this... Coffee is to be shared.

    I think we could re-learn a few things from other cultures about our coffee habits...

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    I agree, coffee is to be shared.

    But when there is no one else around, Ill quite
    happily share it with myself, and have a
    conversation about it as well. :)

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    Re: Has coffee lost some of the "why we drink itne

    I agree that a lot of people need their cup of java to start the day but so do a lot of tea drinkers as well.
    I enjoy the social interaction of enjoying a coffee with friends and quality coffee adds to this experience.
    I enjoy green bean pickup day at Epic Espresso, conversing with fellow Coffeesnobs about our brewing and roasting methods and picking up tips and also enjoying Epics wonderful ristretto bases drinks--perfect!!!
    I get great satisfaction at home making quality coffee for my family and visitors and feel that I am doing my bit to educate these people in the joys of drinking good coffee.

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    exactly!! So its about fantastic coffee... but what makes it more fantastic is the act of doing coffee as well as the coffee itself.

    I reckon the best coffees Ive had have been where great conversation has been enjoyed too.


    ...And theres always room for a little self talk hazbean ;)

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    Re: Has coffee lost some of the "why we drink itne

    Without getting too airy fairy here, I think this general principle applies to a lot of things. As many would know I spent six months of 2007 living in Perth, and it was a busy time - starting work anywhere between 12:30am and 7am, scouring real estate pages, hunting for other work, designing tampers, turning tampers into a business and so on. All these things took an enormous amount of time and thought; yet the things which first come to mind when I think of that six months in Perth were the times my wife and I took our daughter for a pram-ride next to the Swan, or the precious 20 minutes wed sit down and have a coffee after returning from work each day. Despite the miniscule portion of time these things took up, theyre the things that last in memories.

    Its curious that the things that really provide lasting satisfaction are the very things we omit because were too busy doing things that will form no part of our long-term satisfaction.

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    I have a friend who often complains about the coffee he bought that day from various large coffee chains. Whenever I say "So why did you buy it?" he invariably responds "I just needed a coffee. I had to have caffeine. I just needed it alright". Seriously, if you cant function without caffeine, take a caffeine tablet and dont just skull rubbish for the sake of it!

    What incentive is there for coffee companies to up their standards if everyones just happy to drink their gunk because they desperately need a hit?

    People who dont know me really well, and just know of my coffeesnob reputation frequently tease me about caffeine-addiction. They are usually surprised to hear that I rarely drink more than two cups a day, and never, ever before 9am. I dont need coffee to start the day, and I hope thats always the case.

    I drink coffee because I enjoy it, because Im bewitched by it, because I want to understand more and more and more about it; not because I need my fix.

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    Re: Has coffee lost some of the "why we drink itne

    Back to the original post, mine is the other way round. Id never really enjoyed coffee and our social gatherings have revolved around food, not coffee. None of our friends/ relos were into coffee either as a social thing. I started taking coffee when I took up an office based job and needed the hit stay awake.
    Now that Ive discovered good coffee, its becoming more of a social thing where I invite people over and introduce them to fresh coffee... and some are well on their way to coffee snobbery..

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    I am a caffeine junkie, but I wont drink coffee for my caffeine fix - it is easier & a lot quicker to grab an energy drink or diet coke. When I have coffee, its not worth it unless its good coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menace link=1209736415/0#0 date=1209736415
    what peoples thoughts on the general use of coffee in our society??

    To me it is about having a GREAT coffee - but more about the time had with other people while having a GREAT coffee..
    I see where you are coming from and I tend to agree - reminds me of an old Turkish saying, "One neither desires coffee nor a coffeehouse. One desires to talk with others, coffee is but an excuse."

    That said, theres something waaay cool in knowing I was responsible for the entire process of alchemy.... the beans selected, the roast profile used, the extraction of the shot, the texturing of the milk and the rosetta on top.

    But still, I think there is something even cooler sharing it with someone who is just as passionate or excited as you are in understanding and appreciating just how the cup of coffee youre holding in your hand came to be. *

    My $0.02 *:)

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    My coffee is about good taste, good fun and good food. In particular I remember, before light, one morning being prodded awake by my uncle. I was on holidays in Italy and we had agreed to go mushroom hunting the night before. After getting dressed, we were in the car and down to the local Bar. A quick chat to the Bar man, an espresso and we were on our way again.

    Stopping at another Bar for breakfast/lunch at a village at the base of the Tuscan mountains the Barmaid pulled out some of the local cheeses and salami which we enjoyed as we waited for other friends to join us. What with the flirting, the food, the banter and another fine coffee, I was in heaven.

    Soon we were between the trees looking for those glorious mushrooms. Five men in knee high boots and ski poles for stability screaming to one another, heres one, one here too,... they were everywhere. Our sacks were full in no time.

    That night, my uncle his friends and I cooked up a dinner storm for the townís sports club with the main course a mushroom pasta dish to die for. And yes, in amongst the conversation about the days hiking, driving, the flirting, and the cooking, I finished off my meal with another espresso.

    Boy I slept well that nigh in my Tuscan bed. What a day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Alchemist- link=1209736415/0#14 date=1210158601
    I see where you are coming from and I tend to agree - reminds me of an old Turkish saying, "One neither desires coffee nor a coffeehouse. One desires to talk with others, coffee is but an excuse."

    Yep, and I think this kinda sums up what I was on about... (but what a GREAT excuse it is!!)

    And I also agree with you and others that iit does have to be good coffee becuase life is waaay too short fo bad (inc instant) coffee).

    I reckon we should go a step further and make an effort to have good conversation over coffee because otherwise its just too easy to knock one back and get on with your day.

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    This thread got me reminiscing about a very cool coffee connect I made with my neighbour late last year - in a simple way, with a simple conversation, but an afternoon to last a life time *:)

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1190821380

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    You know Menace, the way I see it, itís all part of a whole life thing, as you say.

    But I am not worried if there is no conversation with my coffee. When I have my coffee, I like it to be good, there is nothing like a good coffee either with conversation or as a throw down. I really like it when itís good because for me, when it is good it makes everything else better.

    When itís bad, it makes whats good rather average and whats bad worse. If I am on my own and it has to be a throw down, then I especially want it to be good because its the taste that gives me a lift.

    Now this might be a bit of a borderline statement, itís meant to be strong but poetic.

    Coffee is like a rose, its one of the perfumes of virginity, but better; because when itís good it tastes like it smells.

    If you have read the book called Perfume you will know what I mean.

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    Coffee is its own excuse.
    Good conversation is likewise.
    Both at once is ... better :)
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    all I can say is.....come on the next coffeesnobs coffeecrawl!

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    haha... in Burnie (where I live) I think that would involve going from one CSs place to another!!



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