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    Hey all,

    I am after a bunch of coffee tree seedlings. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    still after coffee trees. Anyone?

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    Try Daleys Fruit Tree Nursery (I wont include a non-sponsor link, but theyre easily found via google). They have a couple of coffee tree varieties listed, although theyre not always in stock. While theyre based in Qld, they do ship around Aust.

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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    C.A.P.E nursery
    Near Byron Bay

    http://www.capeau.com.au/nursery.html

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    Hey !

    If your still after some seedlings, let me know.

    I can supply you with a limited number of either coffee cherries or cuttings from either the original K7 or modafied Catui verieties as soon as they have finished fruiting (a bit l8 this yr).

    What is the climate you live in ? I wouldnt suggest trying to grow any further south than coffs Harbor though as anything resembling a frost will murder your plants?

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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    Luke mine agrowing quite happily in Sydney.

    I was born in Grafton and my Nana lived in Coffs.

    I know the climate up there quite well as I do down here.

    We get about half a dozen frosty mornings per year wqhere I live now and being aware of the problem has allowed me to protect my plants.

    I find that wind is a bigger problem.

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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    google lookup heartgarden nursery in Baffle Creek Qld... coffee plants are in the edible section.

    cheap postage and good plants..

    enjoy

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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    Edible?

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    Of course "edible"

    The entire plant is edible if the need arises....say if you were stuck in a Guatamalan jungle and you were dying for a hit(it happens). The whole thing could be eaten.

    Did you know one of the first documented uses for the plant was balls of mashed up green bean and animal fat?
    Possibly the worlds first energy bar?
    Food for thought(literally). :-?

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    Haha luke thats hilarious, I had no idea about the mashed up green beans with animal fat. Gross ay, but, what you gotta do you gotta do.

    I second everyone with Daleys and the CAPE nursery, the Nursery outside my town has the K7 varietal but I think youd be after a different one to cope with the cooler climate and frosts yeah?

    :)

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    Coffee doesnt like cool weather and it hates frost......frost = death! i lost a lot of plants last year when a freak frost rolled in.
    Its also an easy plant to snap when its windy.

    The K7 is the original Australian coffee strain believed to have been picked up from Kona Hawaii when Australia was first been colonised . And originally grown on the far north coast of NSW along with hemp but both were replaced with cotton when the Government at the time stood to personally gain a lot from the cotton growers in the form of bribes and kick backs.
    Thats actually the reason hemp is illegal in Australia.....luckily the government didnt outlaw coffee :)

    The Catuai or CRB are modified strains. Created to grow around 5 feet in hight in order to be mechanically harvested.

    The only coffee i know that might grow in cooler climates is Rubusta .......icky icky!!!
    I had a laugh sorry for the history lesson... i recently became a qualified barista trainer and im making the history of coffee a big part of my training package.......more barista need to know the history of coffee before they claim to be a barista :)

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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1226113748/0#5 date=1226572915
    I find that wind is a bigger problem.
    The leaves easily suffer from windburn.



    As for the first coffee plants in Australia, they were brought from South America by the first fleet (1788) and planted on what is now the site of the Museum of Sydney.
    Unfortunately, like many of the early crops, they failed to survive.

    A few years later, Chevalier Verincourt de Clambe, a French colonel, arrived in Sydney on the Minorca in 1801 as a free settler. With the assistance of convicts, he planted cotton, grapes and coffee trees near Castle Hill.

    Coffee cultivation didnt start in Hawaii until 1825.

    Australian coffee (1788) also beat Mexico (1790), Columbia (1799), and Kenya (1893).

    By 1818 Australia was exporting coffee plants from Norfolk Island to some Pacific Islands.

    Coffee has also been grown commercially as far south as Berry (100km S of Sydney).



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    Oops! i stand corrected!

    Maybe its the catui that originates from Kona?

    I cant imagine a plantation in Berry growing very well unless under cover. I have enough trouble up here and i keep a very watchfull eye on the weather.
    NOW!!!.......who wants to smuggle me some cherries back from Peru?...just kidding!....or am i?.....I had a laugh no really....just kidding!


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    A premium robusta has its place Luke, and not just in soluble form! *ducks from swinging fist*

    But thanks for the rundown. Very helpful.

    Most of the trees will be grown in Victoria as potted ornamental plants. -- and obviously not for growing a world class crop.

    So who wants a Christmas Coffee Tree!?

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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    I have one I bought off ebay for about 12 bucks if I remember correctly. No idea what varietal it is, but it is growing quite happily on my balcony in Port Melbourne. It has done well over winter but tends to get fried in summer.

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    My two plants (Bill and Ben) survived their second winter this yerar and are now about two feet tall.
    They started off as seedlings with about 3 or 4 pairs of leaves; no higher than about 6 inches.

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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    TG , do you know the cultivar of the trees you have, they would probably do OK where I am (port stephens) , I have a good area that is protected from most of the vicious westerlies and southerlies we get here, btw I have had reasonable success using a kelp spray on things to protect from frost damage, apparently the alginates in kelp do the trick, cheers Gaz

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    Unfortunately no.
    I bought them from the Bay of Evil from a guy in Camperdown.
    At the time I knew less about coffee plants than I do now.
    Im not even sure if he knew.

    I covered mine to ward off frosts.

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    Coffee trees?

    Ok, can anyone help me on my quest for the ultimate coffee indulgence, my own coffee trees? I want two coffee plants to experiment with growing my own green beans to see if I can make my ultimate drop of coffee from produce to cup.

    Any help on where I could buy a couple of these trees will be very much appreciated.

    Cheers

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    Re: Coffee trees?

    There are several places in the following linked thread.


    mod edit- I have spliced the request to the thread suggested by TG. Use of the search button ^^^^^^^ is also handy. It will frequently return lots of hits....

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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    Thanks for pointing my post in the correct direction Thundergod, as I have now ordered two plants from Daleys Fruit Tree Nursery. These fit in pots so are best for our situation in Dubbo, and in anywhere we move in the near future.

    Here comes the ultimate, grow, cook, grind, taste...... :P

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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    Mine have grown a lot in about two years now (theyve survived two winters).

    They were about six inches high when I got them and would now be about two feet tall.


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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    Just a quick question, how much in the way of coffee beans were harvested in the first picking from one tree, Im curious to find out just how much coffee Im liable to get from my trrees?


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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    hedge them, you will get a bigger crop down the track...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javanation link=1226113748/20#23 date=1228636645
    hedge them, you will get a bigger crop down the track...
    Please explain.

    My two are planted closer than recommended.
    I gather that might qualify them as hedged.

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    I have 2 on the way via post *imagines the trauma for them*, I cant wait!

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    I lost 20 odd (6 inch high) seedlings to one frost in Victoria. I thought they were sheltered enough but as mentioned above, you only need one freak frost to get em.

    In the same frost I lost 2 bigger potted plants (about a foot high). They lost all their leaves and turned woody. I hadnt got around to tossing them out when one showed small sprouts on the sad looking "stick in a pot".

    That one plant has be saved and lives inside the Snobbery in a pot now. Its doing well now although the trunk looks much older than the plant... a sort of a coffee bonzai. I think its 3 years old now, no flowers or friut yet but it sure is a pretty pot plant and seems quite happy watching all of its relos getting turned brown.
    ;)

    Ill post some baby photos sometime.


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    Re: Coffee Seedlings

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    I have about 20 freshly potted K7s from Zentvelds ( http://www.zentvelds.com.au/ )in NSW sitting in our back yard. All of the first batch we got before Christmas have been given away and most are doing quite well. Several suffered a bit of heat stroke, but are budding back nicely.

    We will have these trees at the Wicked Sunday (Celebrate the Bean) at Fed Square on the 15th March if you want to pick one up. Obscura will be at stall 1 behind the massive DiBella tent.



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