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    Wow,
    I was just watching the news.. (hmm ten, dont hold it against me pls :) )

    They were talking about how bad some peoples morning coffee fixs are for them

    Hows this for size! (in all shapes and forms)
    1 Jamaica Bue Iced Mocha
    20 g Fat
    2000 calorie (only 180 of those calories are from fat)
    Heaps of sugar (read above - minus some for protein)

    hows that! I am shocked! makes all you guys who feel bad about 1 sugar in your coffee feel alittle better I am sure!

    clarexican



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    Re: Bad coffee

    yeah, i was reading exactly the same thing in a newspaper today. Sad thing was, all the coffee drinks mentioned were orangemochafrappuccinodoubleskinnylattewithcreaman dsprinkles kinda drinks from GJs, *$, Jamaica Blue etc etc. The nice big glossy picture with the article was a beautiful looking rosetta on top of a nice looking NORMAL latte. Shame.

    A long black was also mentioned, and rated as the healthiest coffee drink out of the lot. No normal lattes, caps macs or whatever, just coffee-flavoured milkshakes.

    Its sad that real coffee drinks seem to get a bad image, seen as an unhealthy drink, because of all these other coffee drinks, and sad that such a nice looking latte got such a bad reputation because of them. Does that make sense?

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    orangemochafrappuccinodoubleskinnylattewithcreaman dsprinkles
    I dont think there was anything "skinny" about that monster ;)

    They said alot of the problem is due to people having large fullfat milk drinks too

    clarexican

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    Re: Bad coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by clarexican link=1115710684/0#2 date=1115716539
    They said alot of the problem is due to people having large fullfat milk drinks too

    clarexican
    Hi Guys & Gals,

    Its amazing just how much hyperbole is always associated with the consumption of Full Cream milk. In reality, it only contains between 2-3% of fat by weight, so you would have to drink an awful lot, before your consumption of the contained fat went up to anything like a couple of grams.

    Doesnt worry me too much either way really, as when I do have coffee with milk, it is always as a double shot with about 80-90 ml of milk so, if one allows for a Litre of milk to have a mass of approx. 1Kg, then 90ml would contain about a gram of fat. Wow, better make sure I burn off all that fat before it gets me. ;) ;D

    Cheers,
    Mal.

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    Re: Bad coffee

    I always wonder how anyone who adds sugar to their coffee can believe themself to be drinking coffee :-/

    Do they also add sugar to their wine? *I can (sort of)understand why some might like to use a bit of milk here and there, but.........sugar ??? Im sure its the norm at *$$s, but do home roasters dont do it do they? Surely not.

    Id be interested to see how many CSers think the same thing. *Am I too much of a CS for my own good?

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    Re: Bad coffee

    Hey Lochness,

    I dont use sugar, but others here certainly do, as it the case with most Italians, and THEY certainly cant be wrong in matters per cafe. I use milk (small amounts) so Im even lower down the coffee chain.

    Take a look at the thread, currently active, called "espresso how sweet it is, or isnt" in General Coffee Related, where youll find plenty of discourse on the issue of sugar in coffee.


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    Well,
    Actually Mal you arent quite correct...
    sorry to nit pick, please dont take offense

    here is the math
    Full cream milk contains aprox 3-4% fat, if you assume 4%:
    that means for 100mls of milk there are 4mls of fat aprox = 4gms
    in 1 standard serve of milk(1cup) 250mls = 10g fat (1/3 of recommended intake)

    The daily recommended intake of dairy is 3 serves
    if you only drank milk:
    750 mls milk = 43 gms fat

    so actually it is very easy to get "grams of fat from full cream milk"

    if you drink 1% milk skim
    100mls = 1gm 0.1gm
    250mls = 2.5gm 0.25gm
    750mls = 7.5 gms 0.75gm


    this is why they recommend low fat alternatives, and substitutes that are more calcium dense,
    clarexican
    http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/b...s?OpenDocument

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    Re: Bad coffee

    Lets not forget that other pesky thing in milk called kilojoules.

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    Nah not kilojoules Wired... its ENERGY.

    In the same way that nutrigrain, milo, "sports drinks" etc... give you ENERGY not kilojoules.

    Yah gotta love marketers! ;D

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    Re: Bad coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by clarexican link=1115710684/0#6 date=1115765758
    Well,
    Actually Mal you arent quite correct...
    sorry to nit pick, please dont take offense
    http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/b...s?OpenDocument
    Hi Clarexican,

    Yep, you got me there alright and no offense taken I can assure you. I really should know better than to keep doing sums in my head after having suffered a couple of strokes, always get the decimal point in the wrong place.

    I was right though with the overall fat content of the milk we drink, namely what ever value brands are on offer from our local stores... after checking all of the labels the stated fat content goes from 2.7% for one brand up to a maximum of 3.4% for another so, allowing 3% for an average was ok. Really do need to drag my calculator out next time I do something like this, very embarrassing :-[ .

    Anyway Clare, thanks for setting me right. All the best,

    Mal.

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    Thats ok Mal :)

    I think being a grl, I am probably more concerned with the fat content of the milk I drink ;D

    I like to prosetylyse the benefits of drinking lowfat milk too..... hmmm maybe I should stop... *grin*

    clarexican

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    Re: Bad coffee

    Thought of this thread when I ran accross this article: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-05/wuso-nfi050905.php

    Java "hhhmmm....Kilocals!" phile

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    "For now, he says that dieters who want to lose fat stored in peripheral tissues may find it useful to take in small amounts of dietary fats, such as fish oils, that might more effectively activate PPAR-alpha and fat burning pathways through the liver".

    I think this is the important part of this article. You are much better off to have "good" fat ie monounsaturated, omega 3 etc than the saturated fat in dairy

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    Re: Bad coffee

    Go ahead! Throw some fish oil in your morning cup! Talk about bad coffee! ;D

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