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    WBC Altanta 2009 - On the ground

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    Javaphile and I will be on the ground at the WBC (World Barista Championships) this week and will report in as we can.

    If anyone hears anything interesting feel free to post it in here.


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    Here is a picture of the venue (judge calibration).
    The real comp starts tomorrow!

    The other picture is the artwork on the side of the Nuova Simonelli

    It looks really cool live, and I was told by NS that there are only 60 in total of the WBC 10th anniverary and they have 10 setup and readyto go here in Atlanta..






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    wow! that looks great andy! Lovin the pics!

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    Im sooooooooooo jealous

    Hope you have a great time

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    looks good andy... keep those updates coming.. your are a true champion and great aussie coffee ambassador........ ;D

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    You will all be happy to know, Tim did Australia proud.

    He put together a great show and the only gotcha was during his sig drink where the glass tipped over but his previous cricket training came to the fore and he managed to save it before it ran out of the glass.

    The "Team Australia" cheer squad took up 2 full rows and made way more noise than any other group for the day.

    Afterwards, Tim was happy with how it all went and *thought it was a bonus to get his show done so early in the competition. *Now he can get a good nights sleep and should enjoy watching the other competitiors compete tomorrow.

    Trying to read judges faces, it looked like he is in with a shot.
    ...although I would love to know the scores!








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    Good to know Andy - thanks for the update. Those of us who got up in the wee hours of the morning to watch online were greeted with a grey screen, well, at least those of us on the East Coast seemed to have no luck.

    Ah well, will see what the early hours of tomorrow bring ;)

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    The feed is just a free service that is more or less fan based as far as I know so if you get anything at all be happy as there is no dedicated infrastructure to provide this, just network access and a tap into the cameras on-site.


    Its nearly 2:30am here and we need to up in a 4 hours to get to the venue for a 7:30am start... good night all.
    8-)

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    Well weve survived another day at SCAA/WBC but even with copious quantities of world class espresso the energy level now that weve made it back to the hotel is running pretty low (Its after 2am here and were to be back at the event in just over 5 hours!) so tonights update will be relatively short.

    Attendance at todays WBC rounds was very light. On the upside The Aussie contingency there to support Tim was the largest of any country that competed today that I saw. Tim put on a very smooth and well integrated performance and it appeared he was on-track for a very good score. Then as he was in the final moments of his signature drink prep disaster appeared to strike. Two of the glasses with the Red Gum honey component of the drinks already in the glasses tipped over! From watching the performance I knew he did not have enough of this base left to refill 2 glasses with and my heart instantly leaped into my throat and my thought was that he had just lost any chance of moving onto the next round as he wouldnt complete his signature drink. From where I was sitting, with-in a few meters of Tim, I did not have a clear view of the glasses. With-out missing a beat Tim quickly set the glasses back upright. It was only then that I could see that due to the thickness of his base most of it had in fact stayed in the glasses and he had enough of the base remaining in his prep pan that he was able to replace what had managed to escape from the glasses. Showing his true championship colors Tim continued on and finished his presentation with time to spare. A great performance with a wonderful recovery from what surely would have cost him any shot at moving on had he not kept his wits about him and quickly reacted! All-in-all a stellar performance! Congrats Tim!

    One of the changes at this years event is the addition of a coffee brewing/tasting area with 4 stations. Each station is dedicated to a different type of beverage. Espresso, Cappuccino/Latte, Signature Drinks, and a Uber brewing station. As some of you may recall I was sorely disappointed at the lack of great coffee at last years conference. The addition of this new area makes up for that in spades!

    Rotating through the area are former World Champions as well as national and regional champions Demonstrating their skills and coffees. My hat is off to whoever persuaded the powers that be to put this area in. In a few short minutes I had more truly great coffee than I had had during the entire conference last year! For me this is what events like this are all about. World class coffee. This area alone would be worth the price of admission to the entire exposition, and its in an area that is free and open to the public!

    I have a lot more to say about this area (and a particularly neat piece of kit in it!) but its now after 3am and just over 4 hours before were due back at the convention center! So Ill close out tonights post with how we finished out our evening. A visit to a local coffee shop and bar where an impromptu Latte Art Smackdown took place. The establishment clearly had not expected the number of people that showed up as they were overwhelmed (the queue for beer was 30 minutes!) and cleaned out of a lot of their stocks. Heres a shot looking over the heads of part of the crowd. The crowd had spilled outside onto the sidewalk and parking lot with more people outside than inside.


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    Thanks for the great feedback and pix Andy and Java, keep caffeinated and keep the reports and pics coming.................carn Tim!!! ;D :D :)

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    Good stuff fellas ;)

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    Loving the updates.... better than the live feed I got during the early hours of the morning. Nick Cho was good in trying to rectify things down his end, but I think U-Stream just couldnt handle it. So I missed Tims show... along with a few other CSs, Michelle, Wushoes... Epic got it though, and it was good to get updates from a few Aussies with laptops on their laps in the stands in Atlanta.

    Looking forward to watching the vids of Tims performance.

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    Just checked out the WBC Blog, theres a bit on Tim....

    http://worldbaristachampionship.org/2009/?p=47

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    Oh and theres a new U-stream link now:
    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/2009-world-barista-championship
    I think they fixed some gliches in the yesterdays feed. Hopefully i"ll actually be able to watch it this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 322E2E312A4B0 link=1239659469/13#13 date=1239978103
    Oh and theres a new U-stream link now:
    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/2009-world-barista-championship
    I think they fixed some gliches in the yesterdays feed. Hopefully i"ll actually be able to watch it this time around.
    Thanks for the new link

    Looking at it now and its up and running
    But currently at time of my post its a time countdown with music
    Better than our 4am experience

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    Letting all know Second day has started
    Video link has started

    KK

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    Quote Originally Posted by 052128282B2B1105213D23214E0 link=1239659469/15#15 date=1239981152
    Letting all know Second day has started
    Video link has started

    KK
    Glad the feed is better, I doubt my nudge/noise this morning did it but hey... Ill take the credit if you like.
    ;)

    This morning there was a competitor that managed a noisier support croud than the Team Australia. * The featured country of origin at SCAA is Nicaragua so their local champ Rebeca Ramos drew a rowdy crowd this morning, most in traditional dress which was bright great to see. In the background is Terry Z (errr Terry Zee) from Espresso Parts fame who is a WBC judge.

    If Rebeca and Tim are in the finals it will lift the roof!





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    Also spotted CS site sponsor Zoe from Coffee Hit helping out on the floor.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 725D574A330 link=1239659469/16#16 date=1240002602
    Koffee Kosmo wrote on Today at 01:12:
    Letting all know Second day has started
    Video link has started

    KK


    Glad the feed is better, I doubt my nudge/noise this morning did it but hey... Ill take the credit if you like.

    Can not say it was Great.. Better but so laggy and dropouts...

    Interestingly, I can stream and watch the saved clips from *uStream No Problem....

    It *is just with the live feed ??

    Some others in the pacific were also complaining, so have to assume it is one of the big switches / IP hops between the USA and the pacific..

    Some one should do a full tracert or other diagnostics and see where the blockage is...

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    Congratulations to Timbo for a wonderful performance! :>

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    Feed Dropped - but from chatroom finalists are:

    Hungary
    UK
    Canada
    US
    Ireland
    Korea

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    Interesting, no Scandinavians

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    Feed was pretty bad but I managed to hear but not see the announcement of the finalists.
    Commisserations to Tim. :(

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    Better luck next time Tim

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    It all provides another opportunity..

    PS... *I still want an 1hr one on one...

    Well done Tim, I am proud to be an Ausy...

    Note from Tims Parents...

    Still very proud.

    Well done Peter,Penny, Andy and supporting Staff and those that assisted along the way....

    A big Thank you all Supporters.

    Mr & Mrs Adams.

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    Well done Tim Adams and support crew better luck next year at the 2010 World Barista Championship United Kingdom

    Its a good thing that the WBC happens once a year and not every 4 years like some sports
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    Way to go Tim, you mixed it with some of the best in the world and from all reports did a fantastic job.
    The fact that you are there is testimony to your knowledge and dedication.

    Congratulations mate.

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    Tim came in 13th, Carl Sarah 8th.

    A very awesome job by them both. Congratulations!!!

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    Well done Tim!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 514344535358210 link=1239659469/27#27 date=1240112472
    Tim came in 13th, Carl Sarah 8th.

    A very awesome job by them both. *Congratulations!!!
    where did u see those results?

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    Well done Carl and Tim, good to see the right order, NZ ahead of Aussie ;D

    Great stuff guys !!

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    Not sure where theyre posted up, but got an email from someone there with those results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4463685955060 link=1239659469/29#29 date=1240115354
    Quote Originally Posted by 514344535358210 link=1239659469/27#27 date=1240112472
    Tim came in 13th, Carl Sarah 8th.

    A very awesome job by them both. *Congratulations!!!
    where did u see those results?

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    http://twitter.com/BarNine

    I asked where he got them from and Ian said from Robert Forsyth

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    Yeah, its a real pity that we dont get to see Tim perform again but it would have still been a great learning curve which will help for future comps too.

    Tim did really well and now he can relax and watch the finals without the pressure.

    So who thinks they know the winner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1738322F560 link=1239659469/33#33 date=1240125398
    So who thinks they know the winner?
    Square Mile for a third straight year.........?

    Perhaps.

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    nope...49th parallels time :P

    Sammy FTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6B797E6969621B0 link=1239659469/32#32 date=1240123119
    I asked where he got them from and Ian said from Robert Forsyth
    Thats where I got mine, Rob that is.

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    Yeah Im guessing Sammy Pic, though I was looking forward to the Carl/Sammy showdown....

    Still a bit bermused as to why Carl wasnt in the running... apparently something with the head judges comments.... I guess well see :-X

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    Quote Originally Posted by 746868776C0D0 link=1239659469/37#37 date=1240139073
    Yeah Im guessing Sammy Pic, though I was looking forward to the Carl/Sammy showdown....

    Still a bit bermused as to why Carl wasnt in the running... apparently something with the head judges comments.... I guess well see *:-X
    its total BS from what I heard. A lot will be said post wbc...there are a lot of upset people in the industry...that is for sure.

    2.5s for cappuccinos....and similar for presentation. Apparently he needed to show more passion....what a crock.

    I wanted to see Carl and Sammy in the final. Battle of the 2 titans...but it wasnt to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5B797F6463697F0C0 link=1239659469/38#38 date=1240139884
    Apparently he needed to show more passion....what a crock
    Yeah thats what I heard.... and yeah, same reply.

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    1st place; 623 Gwilym Davies - UK

    2nd place; 619.5 Canada
    3rd place; 618.5 United States
    4th place; 572 Ireland
    5th place, 542 Republic of Korea
    6th place; 535 Hungary








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    While Gwilym Davies was distracted with winning the 2009 WBC Aussie Tim Adams sneeks a touch for good luck.

    ....which I guess was a far better idea than running off with the trophy while no one was looking.

    ;-)



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    Good on Tim for doing Australia proud.

    Fantastic effort, but take the trophie next time ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4E616B760F0 link=1239659469/41#41 date=1240176169
    While Gwilym Davies was distracted with winning the 2009 WBC Aussie Tim Adams sneeks a touch for good luck.
    Just as well you included a photo with that Andy. You had my mind boggling. Trying to see if we were paying attention?

    Congrats on a successful WBC and thanks for the reports and photos

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    Quote Originally Posted by 515B4E5959564244370 link=1239659469/43#43 date=1240179274
    Quote Originally Posted by 4E616B760F0 link=1239659469/41#41 date=1240176169
    While Gwilym Davies was distracted with winning the 2009 WBC Aussie Tim Adams sneeks a touch for good luck. *
    Just as well you included a photo with that Andy. You had my mind boggling. Trying to see if we were paying attention?

    Congrats on a successful WBC and thanks for the reports and photos
    Yea... I was also going wild trying to work out What and Where ;D

    Well do to all and Tim... I like the hidden txt bubble that come from Tim..

    It is a bit hard to read, can not get the contract quite right...

    But I think it says "Your mine next year"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4B696F7473796F1C0 link=1239659469/38#38 date=1240139884
    its total BS from what I heard. A lot will be said post wbc...there are a lot of upset people in the industry...that is for sure.
    Having competed internationally on several occassions myself "you can cry all you like the results dont change " ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 203736283D3C37636063520 link=1239659469/45#45 date=1240198014
    "you can cry all you like the results dont change "
    Too true. But you can cause a refinement in judging criteria in the next comp! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 564A4A554E2F0 link=1239659469/39#39 date=1240140373
    Quote Originally Posted by 5B797F6463697F0C0 link=1239659469/38#38 date=1240139884
    Apparently he needed to show more passion....what a crock
    Yeah thats what I heard.... and yeah, same reply.
    Hey, I got that comment on my scorecards at the Qld Barista Comp, also had "was too relaxed"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6F5A43491D1C2A0 link=1239659469/46#46 date=1240203261
    "you can cry all you like the results dont change "

    Too true.But you can cause a refinement in judging criteria in the next comp!
    How do you set criteria for something as subjective as level of enthusiasm?

    Do judges provide a score on presentation style? If so, do they moderate the scores by measures such as ignoring the highest and lowest and averaging the remaining scores?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3C362334343B2F295A0 link=1239659469/48#48 date=1240204539

    How do you set criteria for something as subjective as level of enthusiasm?

    Do judges provide a score on presentation style? If so, do they moderate the scores by measures such as ignoring the highest and lowest and averaging the remaining scores?
    Hmm, very briefly, but there are a few areas it could come under on the Sensory Judges scoring:
    Presentation: Professionalism/Dedication/Passion (/6)
    And under the Judges Total Impression score (/6 x4)

    As for moderating ... its Tech 1 + T2 + Sensory 1 + S2 + S3 + S4 - Overtime = Total/870

    Any score of 0 or 6 needs the head judge to sign off on it.

    The rules and regs are pretty easy to find on the WBC website if you want to have a look.



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