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    Cool The Golden Bean 2012 - Coffee Roaster Competition

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    Did you hear the exciting news?

    For the first time in the 6 year history of the Golden Bean Roaster competition there will be 2 new roasting categories for...

    COFFEESNOBS
    HOME ROASTERS

    The two new categories only for home roasters are:

    Category 11 Coffeesnobs (Espresso)
    Category 12 Coffeesnobs (Milk Based)

    This is a great chance to get your coffee blind judged by industry roasters and baristas and your chance to win the kudos of all your peers on the CoffeeSnobs forum if you bring home the bling!

    Conditions are:
    Coffeesnobs Categories must be roasting for own use only (no commercial roasting) and coffee roaster must be valued under $5000.

    Closing Day of Entry - Wednesday 03 October 2012 (Two weeks prior to the Golden Bean)

    Entry Form:
    http://www.cafeculture.com/wp-conten...try-Form-1.doc

    Conference Form:
    http://www.cafeculture.com/wp-conten...nce-Form-2.doc

    Please see the Cafe Culture site for more information:
    Golden Bean Roaster Competition & Conference | Cafe Culture

    I'll also provide a $150 BeanBay credit to the winner of
    each of those two categories if you win using our green beans.


    So get roasting, tasting, blending, tweaking and creating what could be the winning entry

    Good luck CoffeeSnobs!

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    This is exciting.

    I'll give this a shot, only for the camaraderie, not to win!

    I'm going to feel sorry for the judges having to wade through hundreds of under-done and charred roasts submitted by Coffeesnobbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidewayss View Post
    This is exciting.

    I'll give this a shot, only for the camaraderie, not to win!

    I'm going to feel sorry for the judges having to wade through hundreds of under-done and charred roasts submitted by Coffeesnobbers.
    It is exciting but I suspect the judges will be very surprised by the quality of the roasts.

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    Interesting to note that depending on how you time your roast date and allow X amount of days for post to get there by the 3rd at the latest, coffee will be 2.5 to 3 weeks old by the time it is judged.

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    I have a question. Well 2 really.
    Does one receive any feedback from the judges? For a $75 entry fee I'd like to think so.

    I home roast. But also roast coffee for my boss (crawler, ain't I). At the same rate (qty=250g/wk) as I roast for myself. And yes he pays me for it. Does that disqualify me?

    Amanda

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    Not to disparage the Golden Bean competition but hopefully to shed a little light and reality on how the process has worked up until now. I think the process improves every year.

    Each coffee is judged by 2 people. They may be sales reps in the coffee industry who don't normally drink espresso or could be accredited judges. The level of experience in tasting and judging can be at very different levels. This means that a coffee that wins a medal will always be a good coffee. It also means that some good coffees that might actually be better than the ultimate medal winners will be eliminated through no fault of their own.

    Out of interest and if my memory serves me correctly, last year there were approx. 300 entries each for the espresso and milk-based categories while there were circa 80 entries in the syphon category. So it is harder to win a medal in the general espresso and milk-based categories because these are more contested.

    Every year we've been told that the judges comments will be forwarded to the competitors upon request. I've asked for feedback more than once and it hasn't been provided.

    I can't answer the question about eligibility Amanda but hope what I've said helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    Out of interest and if my memory serves me correctly, last year there were approx. 300 entries each for the espresso and milk-based categories while there were circa 80 entries in the syphon category. So it is harder to win a medal in the general espresso and milk-based categories because these are more contested.
    With a CoffeeSnobs membership in excess of 20,000 we could easily swamp this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by commanda View Post
    I home roast. But also roast coffee for my boss (crawler, ain't I). At the same rate (qty=250g/wk) as I roast for myself. And yes he pays me for it. Does that disqualify me?
    Hi Amanda,
    that certainly won't disqualify you.
    It's all about home roasting and selling $10-$50 of beans to friends, family (and bosses) to help fund your bean habit isn't a problem.

    Cafe Culture and myself really wanted to keep the rules short and "fair use", the last thing we want is 20 pages of legal crud to wade through and plug holes in. If you home roast and you don't have a roaster over $5k in value you can enter.


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    The Golden Bean 2012 - Coffee Roaster Competition

    I'm tempted to send in some of the Hawaii Kona that I finally got up the nerve to roast today - the most beautifully even and attractive roasted bean that I've ever seen! Alas, it will be a bit too far gone to send (and, besides, I want to drink this nectar myself - I'm so selfish!!!)
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    Hmm, its definitely a tempting proposition
    but it would be nice to get feedback as well instead of just the "no you did not make it to the next round" etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by commanda View Post
    With a CoffeeSnobs membership in excess of 20,000 we could easily swamp this.
    at $75 per entry i dont think there is much danger of it getting swamped . plus 500gr of beans plus postage , it's going to run close to $100 so i aint going to swamp it that's for sure .
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    Yeah, entry is high but so are their costs and at the end of the day they need to make a dollar too.
    Sydney Show and other comps can be $200 per entry and you compete against fat wallet pros.

    This is the first time in the country that a professional comp has created a category for home roasters, I think it's a good thing and could be a great stepping stone for a budding home roaster (or even Barista) to add something cool to their CV.
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    Pretty big news for CS.
    Nice one Andy

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    The Golden Bean 2012 - Coffee Roaster Competition

    This does sound exciting.
    I'm also a little unsure about the age of the beans by the time they are sampled. More reading to do. But, as Andy says, it's fantastic to see a competition like this supporting and encouraging home roasting.

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    This new category has been added to recognise and provide an award for home roasters. We have Australia's best barista's preparing the coffees and all are judged by industry peers. We also felt it was important add this category as many home roasters make the step to become cafe owners or commercial operators

    In terms of scoring it will be much more automated then previous years. Via a new system feedback will be provided to all entrants post event.

    If any Coffee Snobs members are interesting in attending the event there are a number of workshops / seminars and functions which you can attend / participate.

    Key note speaker for Golden Bean 2012 is Dr Chuck Hahn, Director & Brew Master of Malt Shovel Brewery.

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    Hi Kev

    if what you say is true and that ALL entrants will receive feedback post even that would be amazing! Would you happen to know what level of feedback we're talking about here?

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    I have seen and been a part of judging all over the world at lots of different levels from company competitions to WBC and this topic of "feedback" is always a hot one.

    Some judges will only scribble a score, others will write a couple of words, some a sentence and unless you know the judge it's hard to calibrate what value to put on the feedback you get. A few years ago the WBC judges were all told to improve their feedback or leave, it helped somewhat but still isnt perfect. Until a computer can score an espresso from an agreed baseline there will always be whacky human variables in any results including time of day they tried it.

    Over the years that I've been at the Golden Bean I've seen a great improvement over the way coffees are made, delivered to the tables and judged. The Cafe Biz crew take all the feedback each year and tweak the process the following year to try and improve it. Judging the top scoring coffees with a set group of judges was the biggest single change in the history of the Golden Bean and has resulted in the top ones shuffling in order.

    One change I would like to see this year (I've not mentioned it to them yet) is to deliver the drinks to different judging tables. Something I've noticed moving around a room of judges is that tables start to align their scores so you end up with a table of people who score light roasted coffees high and another table that score them low etc. Sometimes half the table is from the same company and they would all have similar tastes / scoring bias.

    Even with judge calibration we all carry some bias towards what sort of coffee we rate highly. I remember having one espresso that was full of anise flavours... stunning and amazing coffee. My co judge screwed-up his face and scored it low. We debated the reasons for our scores for a while but in the end the scores stood and on average that entry scored "average" at best. For me, that coffee was one of the few that I wanted to buy a kilo to drink and one of the most memorable coffees in my life.

    There are always other judging biases too. My example of that fat-anise coffee was it was a wonderful "journey coffee" but if I was opening a cafe with it I know it would freak-out most of the people that expected a "standard coffee" experience. We all expect different things from a coffee at different times.

    At the Golden Bean I think it would be pretty hard for a really nasty coffee to score a medal and I think it would be unlucky for a great coffee to missout. On average they seem to get it pretty right which is why I was happy to trust their process in judging CS'rs home roasts.
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    Andy...nicely said.
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    Great opportunity for CSers. Good stuff Andy.

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    Trying to juggle this in my head.

    The plan is to roast on the Monday 1st October, send it out by air express from WA to get to it's destination by Wednesday the 3rd at the latest.

    Does anyone have their own plan?
    The beans will have a good two weeks rest til the comp. I suspect certain beans will peak a week before the 16th and start their descend in quality, so diligent packaging would be paramount as well as roasting a slight shade lighter.

    I might put some Monsoon Malabar in the mix...maybe...

    It's a bean which will peak later than the others.

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    Is there a reason why the deadline is set two weeks ahead? Why isn't the deadline set to say a week before? That way the resting time is a little more flexible especially with roasters that rather their beans rest say 5 or 8 days instead of 14 - 15 days. And the guy who want that rest of 2 weeks can do so by roasting a week before the deadline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micksquires View Post
    Is there a reason why the deadline is set two weeks ahead? Why isn't the deadline set to say a week before? That way the resting time is a little more flexible especially with roasters that rather their beans rest say 5 or 8 days instead of 14 - 15 days. And the guy who want that rest of 2 weeks can do so by roasting a week before the deadline.
    I had the same questions last year and I think it boils down to the logistics of getting all those entries sorted and processed. With approx 200 entries in the espresso category and about the same in SO plus a dozen more categories, that's a lot of entries to handle.

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    That's what i thought too.

    The popularity of this competition means it needs time and energy to handle and process the entries, especially now that there is the Coffeesnobs category.

    Anyway, it's still worth a shot even if those residing near Caloundra way has the home advantage of roasting to the last hour and dropping off the bags at the address.

    That's why i might be putting some Malabar in the mix, but i won't say to what ratio...

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    Is there a reason why the deadline is set two weeks ahead?
    Yep, as mentioned above, it's all about the logistics of dealing with such a huge amount of coffee. Of course the date is the same for all entries so it's still an even playing field.

    those residing near Caloundra way has the home advantage of roasting to the last hour and dropping off the bags at the address
    No real advantage. You can get overnight freight from anywhere in the country and the 2 week buffer means that the 1 day difference will have near zero impact on the coffee.

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    Good to know. Overnight express it is.

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    ** NEWS FLASH **

    I've just heard from the publisher of Cafe Culture that they are going to include a FREE 12 month subscription ($45 value) for all those that enter the CoffeSnobs home roasting categories at the Golden Bean.
    Those that have already entered will receive it too. The subscription will be sent to the address on your entry form.

    Shhh...don't tell the commercial guys CS'rs are getting a better deal.

    They also said that entry forms should be submitted by the end of next week (Sept 14th) as they need to post out the competition issue coffee bags to pack your beans in when they roast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sidewayss View Post

    That's why i might be putting some Malabar in the mix, but i won't say to what ratio...

    Now don't go letting the cat out of the white cotton bag with green printing just yet.

    However, post comp, I would like to invite all CoffeeSnobs entrants to publish their blends; win. lose, or draw. I, for one, hereby make a commitment to do so.

    Amanda

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    Nice idea Amanda, love the spirit.

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    Would it be too late to enter? Just saw the email today unfortunately...

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    Should be fine...
    Get your entry in ASAP though as yhey will post you the 2 competition bags to fill and then send back to them.

    All entries are in the same bags

    I'm guessing that most CS'rs won't have a commercial heat sealer for the bags but a hot iron and a sheet of brown paper will also do a great job of sealing the top edge of the bags before freighting them back.

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    I'm going to tip my hat into the ring for this one, will be interesting too see how the other 'snobs go as well. I've been getting some really good results of late, but then again my process is tweaked 100% to my tastes

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    Yeh I would like to enter please advise how ooh

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    Please see the first post in this thread for the entry form.

    It needs to be filled-in and sent back to them NOW

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    Did everyone get their entries in?

    My kids entered a coffee in the CoffeeSnobs home roasting section. Zed and Sarah each used the Behmor to knock out a couple of roasts. They selected their own beans from the Snobbery, weighed them out and roasted them up in 2 batches each. I've never seen two home roasters more focused on watching the roast progress and waiting for the very fist pops of second crack. The roasts looked great too.

    Zed (11yo) picked the Mexico el Triunfo Arabigo
    Sarah (13yo) used the Brazil Yellow Bourbon

    They were really proud of their effort (as was I if you can't tell!)

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    I got in by the skin of my teeth as far as freight goes.

    Monday was a public holiday so i posted on the Tuesday. Got told it would get there on Thursday 4th, one day after closing date.

    Rang up to see if i was still eligible. Was kindly told if it arrives there a day late, there's no worries. Thankful and relieved.

    Good luck to all who is entering. Am sure the winner is worthy and we look forward to finding out your roasting machinery, technique and beans used.

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    Im on the sunshine coast right now.
    Just wondering if this is opened to the public to come and have a look, and try some of the coffees.
    There is an article in todays Sunshine coast daily about the fact that the competition is on, but it doesn't mention anything about public being welcome, or opening times, admission prices, etc.
    The article focusses on coffee tips for the home barista and a bit about why the golden bean was introduced.

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    Re: The Golden Bean 2012 - Coffee Roaster Competition

    Hi Craig, it's not open to the public to just wander in which is why entry wasn't mentioned I guess. The conference and competition is a 4 day ticketed event, Mark it in your calendar for next year if you want to join in the biggest roaster comp in the world.

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    Well I arrived home from The Golden Bean Coffee Conference and Competition about 7 pm last evening. The trip was punctuated with a late arrival at Sydney from Maroochydore Airport, resulting in my missing the connection on the next flight home. The airline kindly, efficiently and without fuss put me on the next available flight resulting in a 1.5 hour wait in the terminal, that was put to good use!

    That said and after having had 3 great days at Golden Bean, there was no stress!

    They're having a "free day" today and finishing off with the presentation dinner tonight. My compliments to all that have worked hard enough to win something in the comp and even to everyone else that submitted their entries.

    The standard of coffee making this year was excellent. I was never presented with a badly made coffee, making judging that bit easier. There were times on my table when particular entries were asked to be "re brewed", and that was to check that whetever the judges detected in the particular coffee was indeed the coffee and not the way it had been brewed.

    I'm not going to say anything about the standard of entries at this point and particularly as the organisers will have a much better overview of the total.

    The seminars were very very good and I suggest anyone (industry) that didnt attend missed out on some good speakers and topics. Both topics yesterday (Utz Certified - fair trade movement / sustainability, and Cafe Pulse - surveys, stats and their use to improve your business) were eye openers. Mark Beattie (Coffee Roasters Australia & a fellow CS sponsor) gave a very informative talk on Wednesday, and of course those I've left out (including keynote speaker Chuck Hahn) were also very well received ( and in the case of Chuck Hahn, very funny as well - what a great public speaker).

    I'd also like to mention the Beer Matching Dinner (degustation) was well worth the attendance!

    And of course, its always good to catch up with you Andy!

    Lastly, my sincere compliments and best wishes to Sean and his Cafe Culture team, for putting on a very professional Conference and Comp.

    Rgdz,
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    will the results be posted somewhere?

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    Re: The Golden Bean 2012 - Coffee Roaster Competition

    just saw on Facebook--Andy has won Golden Bean--brilliant effort, huge congratulations from all CS'ERS!!!!

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    BIG CONGRATULATIONS to our Master CoffeeSnobs (Andy Freeman) in winning - Golden Bean Awards - Overall Event!!!!!
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    Zed Freeman in winning 'coffeesnobs milk'!!!!

    Fantastic jobs, guys!!!! @^_^@

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    awesome stuff! congratulations! =)

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    Congratulations Mr Andy Freeman for winning The Golden Bean - Overall! And also to Fiefy for winning silver in Espresso and Milk Based Drinks! (Thanks to Fiefy for posting on her FB page)

    I'm so proud of you guys and you deserve it.



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    Is that the one Di?

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    The Golden Bean 2012 - Coffee Roaster Competition

    Thanks, David, that's the one!

    What ^ said x 3...

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    'twas the morning after the night before and it's still surreal.

    If it wasnt for the fact that I got up and found the trophy on the table in the hotel I would have put last nights events down as a weird dream.

    The Golden Bean competition is a massive event that the whole team at Cafe Culture put together each year with blood, sweat and I'm sure a few tears. Their motivation has never been about making dollars, instead it's all about building a better, stronger and more colabrative coffee industry and the effort to put somehting like this together is huge. I was lucky enough this week to spend 4 days with a room full of my coffee industry peers and between us all we managed to judge 1100+ coffees from all over Australia. Pouring the coffee were some of Australia's best baristas (headed by previous Australian champion Tim Adams) and their skill showed in the consistant quality that hit the judging tables from start to finish.

    CoffeeSnobs site sponsors bagged plenty of medals, I won't try and name them or the categories but I do look forward to the list coming out so we can let everyone know. The Cafe culture crew will be on the road all day today getting all the gear back from Caloundra so the list should be released in a day or two I guess.

    The two new Coffeesnobs home roasting categories were won by:

    Coffeesnobs Espresso : Habib Maarbani
    Coffeesnobs Milk Based: Zed Freeman

    Most people know Habib as a great barista and this new category motivated him to learn how to roast. Dozens of small batches were roasted, rested cupped and poured and the reward for his effort is he is the 1st ever winner of the Coffeesnobs Espresso category. Well done Habib!

    The winner of the Coffesnobs Milk Based category was Zed Freeman, yep, my son. Initially embarrassed that the son of a coffee roaster just won the home roasted milk category I am also hugely proud because I know that Zed (and Sarah for her entry too) did this all by themselves. My 3 kids have spent most of their life around coffee and beans, from sweeping-up at work to weighing and stickering bags they know as much about beans and roasting as many in the industry. Zed selected his own coffee from the Snobbery (Mexico el Triunfo Arabigo) and did multiple roasts in the Behmor to create his winning entry. Well done Zed!

    CoffeeSnobs did pretty well too

    Australian Coffee - Bronze medal - Mountain Top Coffee Ray's Selection #789
    Single Origin - Silver Medal - El Salvador La Guachoca
    Espresso - Silver Medal - Fiefy's Barista Blend
    Milk Based - Silver Medal - Fiefy's Organic at Origin

    ...and the high scores in Espresso and Milk Based coffees were enough to make us the
    overall winner of the 2012/2013 Golden Bean.

    WOW!

    I'm thrilled that the judges liked it, all the finalists are also judged a second time by a different judge panel so it's great that those coffees stood-up twice.

    I'm also excited that Fiefy's Specialty Cafe customers in Pirie St Adelaide have been drinking coffee at this level for 18 months. We knew it was nice coffee, now it's also Golden Bean winning coffee. So if you are in Adelaide swing by and try the two Espresso and Latte coffees on Fiefy's La Marzocco.

    Of course the medal winning beans (Australian, El Salvador and the Mexican) are all available as green beans in BeanBay and the two Fiefy Blends are available in the roasted section of BeanBay.

    I'm really looking forward to flying home tonight and seeing Paula and the kids, they put up with a lot to allow me to follow my coffee passions including looking after the Snobbery when I'm away along with all the late nights and long hours and weekends that they don't see me. Without their support I could never eat, drink and play with coffee like I do.

    Thanks for all the well wishes CS'rs, this is another amazing chapter in the CoffeeSnobs journey and I'm glad you are all coming along for the trip.


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    Congrats to Andy and CoffeeSnobs!

    Hmmm, was wondering if Zed gets his prize money from dad in Beanbay credits or pocket money? Great work Zed. You are an inspiration.
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    Congratulations and well done on Winning and also being so humble about it. Congratulations to your son too, good on him.

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    Congratulations on a well-deserved win Andy and Zed and to all other CS winners!
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    What an awesome showing for Mr. CoffeeSnobs Jr! Following in dads footsteps and filling them nicely. Way to go Zed!!!

    Job well done Andy! Congrats on taking home the big bean!

    Congratulations to Fiefy all the other winners as well!


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