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    Channel TEN news has just run a promo claiming that in tomorrow nights bulletin at 5 pm they will reveal all.... the secret to good coffee.

    Will be waiting with baited breath.

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    Ill be at work.

    Keep us posted.

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    wow, to think that with all our toil, collective ideas, thousands of dollars, and hours of cupping and research, still have extremely little real knowledge of the secrets of espresso, but a journalist crew can tell us the answers in a 10 minute news slot? Man, have I wasted my time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MachoSilvia link=1183879909/0#2 date=1183880454
    wow, to think that with all our toil, collective ideas, thousands of dollars, and hours of cupping and research, still have extremely little real knowledge of the secrets of espresso, but a journalist crew can tell us the answers in a 10 minute news slot? Man, have I wasted my time!
    I think youre being generous thinking they will allot 10 minutes, more like 60 seconds and maybe at a stretch itll go for 90 seconds.... call me cynical ;)

    Mal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1183879909/0#0 date=1183879909
    Channel TEN news has just run a promo claiming that in tomorrow nights bulletin at 5 pm they will reveal all.... the secret to good coffee.

    Will be waiting with baited breath.

    --Robusto
    I wonder who the "experts" that theyll interview are. Im guessing the Gee brothers, a chef and the head of Grinders or Vittoria.

    Cheers,

    Luca

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    anyone see that Sunday special that featured Jack Hanna (this years WLA champion from Sydney)?

    This was his response to being featured in the same segment as the Gee brothers, "yeah i was REALLY really happy when they had the gee brothers in the segment with me.
    =__="

    I had a laugh

    When Coffee Meets Art - http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/art_profiles/article_2225.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes link=1183879909/0#5 date=1183890532
    anyone see that Sunday special that featured Jack Hanna (this years WLA champion from Sydney)?

    This was his response to being featured in the same segment as the Gee brothers, "yeah i was REALLY really happy when they had the gee brothers in the segment with me.
    =__="

    I had a laugh

    When Coffee Meets Art - http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/art_profiles/article_2225.asp
    My God....What an insult.... :-X

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    Quote Originally Posted by MachoSilvia link=1183879909/0#2 date=1183880454
    wow, to think that with all our toil, collective ideas, thousands of dollars, and hours of cupping and research, still have extremely little real knowledge of the secrets of espresso, but a journalist crew can tell us the answers in a 10 minute news slot? Man, have I wasted my time!
    TEN-minutes? You are far too generous with time, MachoSilvia. 1.30 would be closer to the mark.

    The countdown to 5 pm is on, when all of us will be enlightened and the encyclopaedias and coffee posts world wide will have to be re-written in the light of the new knowledge imparted by the evening news.

    -Robusto

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    Quote Originally Posted by luca link=1183879909/0#4 date=1183889865
    I wonder who the "experts" that theyll interview are. *Im guessing the Gee brothers, a chef and the head of Grinders or Vittoria.

    Cheers,

    Luca
    Showing my ignorance here, but who are the Gee brothers? :-[

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    Arent they Brazilian martial artists that started the Ultimate Fighting contest to show the world that their style of fighting was superior. Maybe Moccona is one of their sponsors... ;)

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    Lovey the Gee brothers are two brothers who set up a coffee school teaching wannabe baristas the way Maccas would teach wannabe chefs....okay maybe thats a bit harsh....but you get the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes link=1183879909/0#10 date=1183954999
    Lovey the Gee brothers are two brothers who set up a coffee school teaching wannabe baristas the way Maccas would teach wannabe chefs....okay maybe thats a bit harsh....but you get the idea.
    Thanks Wushoes,
    I love the analogy, maybe they could enrol in the new french cooking school at Le Hungry Jacques ;).

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    Ok, for all coffeesnobs embarrassed NOT to know the secret to good coffee, fresh off the press --airwaves -- of Channel TEN, here it is:

    Fresh coffee, clean water, distilled mineral water or filtered.

    Yes, that is it, in the 128" story (I under-estimated by 2").

    The story began "We are a bunch of coffee snobs" but dont have to apologise according to the Australian Coffee Association (ACA).

    The ACAs Les Schirato disclosed the secret, applicable to all us home baristas.

    Well, we didnt know that, did we.

    Surprisingly, Les said nothing about auto-fill sensors, tamping, the fact that bought beans tend to be stale, water temperature and a myriad of other variables.

    Ah, television. The great educator.

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    Fresh coffee and clean water are essential...who cares about tamping, auto fill sensors...seriously...who cares?

    Good old trusty french press.....fresh coffee....check (roasted on 07/07/07 for french press) clean water....check (filtered water)....ohh baby....500 grams of Yirg...too much..hahaha

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    my life is so much more complete now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1183879909/0#12 date=1183967645
    Surprisingly, Les said nothing about auto-fill sensors, tamping, *the fact that bought beans tend to be stale, water temperature and a myriad of other variables.

    Ah, television. The great educator.
    He may have, and been edited out...

    Then again, he may not have too...

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    I mention autofil sensors NOT because they are essential for good coffee. They are not. But because to use the recommended distilled water would render them useless. With disastrous consequences.

    The pump will keep pumping water into the boiler until the rising level touches the tip of the sensor. Then it stops. The water must have dissolved salts for the system to work -- distilled water has no impurities. The pump comes on...and on.... and on....

    The system has a negative-ground electrical circuit. Contact betwen the sensor and the metallic boiler will stop the pump. That contact is made via the boiler wall, through the impure water, to the tip.


    I would have thought that someone from the coffee association would know that and therefore not make such a rash recommendation.
    ---Robusto



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    Coffees secret ingredient is love. Nuff said.

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    All you need is love? Will try it tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunu link=1183879909/15#17 date=1183979596
    Coffees secret ingredient is love. Nuff said.
    Im with you on that Nunu - well said!

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    I beg to differ. When I was in Australia on holiday (I live in NZ), The first cafe I went to, I was the only customer there, so I was able to chat to the barista. She served me a latte(I drank lattes back then), and told me that she made it with love. If that was love, I would hate to see one made with black hatred. It was weak, with burnt, scalding milk, and was as bitter as the devil. The barista asked me how it was, and i politely told her it wasnt the best. Heres the X-files bit: She apologised, and recomended me to a cafe down the road, in a hushed voice, even though there was no one around to here her scandalous unfaithfulness to the cafe she worked at... The cafe she sent me to had $h17 service, but fantastic coffee!

    Moral: There is only so much you can do with love, without solid technique... Dont be fooled by someone smothering you with love! Youll be smothered in Scalding, Burning, Bitter hatred as well.

    Cheers, Mark

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    Ouch! Love hurts.
    So the Beatles were wrong then.
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    I feel sorry for Andy @ Aroma then. Esp. if hes trying my shots.


    They said they made it with love. And you believed them. Another sucker. Should have had them keep making you coffees until you approved of one. They still took your money in the end.

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    yeah i loved how the gee brothers were on afterwards


    DOT DOT DOT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by neonphyter link=1183879909/15#23 date=1184135986
    yeah i loved how the gee brothers were on afterwards


    DOT DOT DOT...
    I had a laugh Jack, you poor bastard.

    Seeing as youve won the World Latte Art Championship, are you going to continue working for Jones or pursue something else?

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    im still working for jones
    but maybe doing something else at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1183879909/15#16 date=1183979240
    I mention autofil sensors NOT because they are essential for good coffee. They are not. But because to use the recommended distilled water would render them useless. With disastrous consequences.

    The pump will keep pumping water into the boiler until the rising level touches the tip of the sensor. Then it stops. The water must have dissolved salts for the system to work -- distilled water has no impurities. The pump comes on...and on.... and on....

    The system has a negative-ground electrical circuit. Contact betwen the sensor and the metallic boiler will stop the pump. That contact is made via the boiler wall, through the impure water, to the tip.


    I would have thought that someone from the coffee association would know that and therefore not make such a rash recommendation.
    ---Robusto

    Had to laugh, conductivity is what many systems use, and in the health industry it is critical for many systems and for the testing and measurement of samples. Yet many people still think pure water is the best. Put it in your radiator or any number of systems and it will cause all sorts of MAJOR problems. That is why the radiator fluid additives are required... To add enough additives so that the water does not leach it from your radiator and block.

    Yea well spare a thought for many health nuts who get sold Water systems that claim to provide PURE water (Distilled etc). They body chemistry must be way out of wack, unless they are then taking any number of supplements.


    To add to that, a number of sports and health drinks now claim that the main ingredient is distilled water and then they add various salts and minerals ;D

    The body depends on old fashioned water, with all its included extras. As for our equipment, then we still need many of the electrolytes, we just want to Manage those that hurt the equipment or cause a bad taste.

    Murphys Law of Research: "Enough research will tend to support your theory" and dont the sales people know it.

    Attention to health is lifes greatest hindrance. Plato




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