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Thread: Guess what customs just cleared???

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    Guess what customs just cleared???

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Two pallets full in the van complete with biosecurity tape...


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    Ismaili??!! Naturals, Andy? Poke it full of holes, did they?
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    Wow!

    This must have taken a hell of a lot of effort from Yemenis to get to export.
    Ditto for getting some into Oz too Andy...

    Mal.
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    Put me down for some right now! Love Yemeni beans.
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    Aaaahhhhh.....I can smell it from here! What a treat for everybody to welcome in the new year with!


    Java "Ismaili yumminess!" phile
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    We have been secretly working on this for many, many months with the wonderful help of someone on the ground.

    My favourite origin in the world and the Ismaili is the ultimate grade of Yemen but yes, it's very hard to source in the middle of a civil war and made worse when the shipping port and the city that supports it is just rubble and disease (very sad). That just made me more determined to land the near impossible.

    There is a bit of Yemen coffee around the world but typically it's very old crop, and much lower grade (like Mattari, Sanini etc) . what we did different was think outside the box, pack it in a full sealed container and moved it across country to a still functioning port. Then it sailed to two different destinations before finally boarding a ship to Australia. I don't want to name specific ports and countries as it might hinder future attempts but it was a whacky way to move it!

    The downside of taking such a weird route in a full container is that it raised alarm bells in customs everywhere it went including Australia. It landed here on hte 30th Dec and has taken 3 weeks to clear customs but thankfully we got there.

    This was just harvested and well might be the freshest Yemen anywhere on the planet. The smell is amazing even as a green bean and it made me instantly smile... "ahhh, I remember this!".

    To top off my great day we also cleared some Qishr and as near as I can tell from the reaction of customs, we are the first ones to ever land true Yemeni Qishr for resale. Qishr is the dried coffee cherry and parchment and you can make a stunning tea with it (have one in front of me right now). It's density is high and requires a longer brew/steep time and because there is no tannin it doesn't get more bitter. In fact I had a plain Qishr and a spiced Qishr in Adu Dahbi years ago which was months old, they just keep it on the stove and add some more to it everyday.

    This one has soft floral aromatics and a hint of grandpa's pipe tobacco, the initial taste is sweet, really sweet and then some flavours of currants, fig and nectarine. Steeped for 8 minutes at 80C it really blossomed and it can be drink hot or better still at this time of year, chilled in the fridge as healthy refreshing iced tea.

    Qishr is traditionally spiced in Yemen (and the UAE) normally with cardamon pods and sometimes ginger root and cinnamon. That region grinds cardamon with their coffee too which for me was nice to try but I prefer the amazing Yemen coffees straight-up and I prefer the Qishr natural too.

    Anyway, enough excited ramble. Both these will appear in BeanBay soon.
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    Wwwwwwowowowowowow! Am super excited, I never got a chance to try the Yemen beans!!!

    Well done Andy and thanks for your crazy efforts to get them in, very excited to try them!
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    I know a lot of people "doing a happy dance" over this, the Ismaili is a very rare and special bean.

    They 'aint cheap but at $35/kg I will readily give something else away to ensure we can drink them.

    ...although it is common for CS'rs to empty the grinder before answering the doorbell.


    PS: Yemen in BeanBay now
    We landed plenty so don't push little 'ol ladies out of the way, there is enough for everyone.

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    I grabbed three bags. And I'm not telling the only guy I normally roast for. I told him about the Sidamo but friendship only goes so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonetruepath View Post
    I grabbed three bags. And I'm not telling the only guy I normally roast for. I told him about the Sidamo but friendship only goes so far.
    I really did laugh out loud at your Ardi lesson.

    How do you think I feel? There was a moment when I got back to the Snobbery with a van full of Yemen that I contemplated not telling anyone, I had a vision of me swimming around in it like Scrooge McDuck, tossing handfuls into the air... but then decided that even I couldn't drink that much Yemen.
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    Andy, I know I'll get asked...... but does the Qishr have caffeine in it?

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    Andy, I have a suggestion.
    Can you make the packages more suited to shipping. If I get 500g, it gets shipped for the same price as 1kg package..
    If I buy 1kg, I pay the rate for more than 1kg...

    It seems to be this way on the shipping calculator anyway.

    I was thinking if you dropped the package size to (say 900g?) It would ship at the 1kg rate rather than the higher rate. So optimising the shipping.
    It means we as customers would get more beans per $ spent.
    It should mean you would sell more 900g packs as the 400g difference between a 500g and a 900g is effectively free posted.

    Is this making sense or crazy talk..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chokkidog View Post
    Andy, I know I'll get asked...... but does the Qishr have caffeine in it?
    I wondered the same thing. Did a google and the answer is yes it certainly does. About the same as black tea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackster View Post
    Is this making sense or crazy talk..
    Mostly crazy talk. Can you imagine how many emails I would get if we packed less in a bag. I know it makes sense but the grief wouldn't be worth it.

    Packaging sizes are carefully made to suit the packaging (taken 12 years of tweaks to get them right) add to that BeanBay calculates the weight, and volume along with the destination of most items. Just because something weighs 500g doesn't mean it will fit in a 500g satchel. It's so complicated but BeanBay gets it right!

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    When I place an order, which isn't often, I do the weight V freight calcs on BeanBay and finish up ordering around 20 kg to get the most economical freight rate.

    When it comes to something special like the Yemen, if I can afford to pay $35.50 a kg for green beans a few extra dollars in freight is neither here nor there.

    Bit of a case of cant see the forest for the tree's.

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    Fair enough.
    I shall resume the quiet position on the couch.

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    It's really hard to discuss this on the site as people get different options depending on where they are too and whatever I answer online just creates confusion for others.

    Jackster 20km from Perth CBD gets shown different freight options to Yelta who is 100km from the next electric light pole

    In both cases, a 500g shipment will be offered as an Express Post satchel and one of the two will also get shown a small Fastway satchel.

    17.5kg is the sweet spot in slow freight to Perth if you are in a Fastway area, about $1/kg is amazing value but can take 7-10 days, sometimes longer.

    20kg is the best bang per buck for eParcel everywhere and 40kg is slightly better again as the 2nd parcel has a lower starting price and the same per kilo price.

    I could go on for hours but at the end of the day, BeanBay does things that no human could possibly remember or do including live lookups of freight areas, zones and limits.

    Best bet is to add what you want, go through to the checkout and see what freight options you are offered, add to the basket or remove items to see what works best. As long as you don't press [confirm] at the end the order won't be placed and you can go back and forward to fiddle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Best bet is to add what you want, go through to the checkout and see what freight options you are offered, add to the basket or remove items to see what works best. As long as you don't press [confirm] at the end the order won't be placed and you can go back and forward to fiddle.
    Excellent advice, exactly what I do.

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    That's fine.
    I wasn't looking at the bigger picture of customers purchasing 10kg or (way) more.
    I was only thinking of the customers (like me) that are deciding on 500g preroasted or 1kg.
    Maybe I need to get a corretto going, and 5kg of green.
    Thanks for your replies and consideration.
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    Jackster, maybe add a kilo of something else roasted to your order? I assume you buy from a local roaster, Beanbay is a few dollars cheaper than local for me per kilo, spreads the freight costs and you try something different for a couple of weeks. (Of course a couple of kilos may be way outside your usage patterns)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackster View Post
    Maybe I need to get a corretto going, and 5kg of green.
    If you enjoy fresh coffee and variety it makes sense, of course there's also a substantial dollar benefit.
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    We also have lots of customers that "coffee pool" in the office or with friends and family. They order 5kg of roasted to combine freight and then share it around when it gets there.

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    Ordered 5kilos from beanbay on Jan 23. The online Fastway tracker says the parcel is in Geelong, as of Jan 23, no other updates - maybe Fastway are using the same route Andy used to get the beans in to Australia? :-) Waiting patiently (mostly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by noonar View Post
    Ordered 5kilos from beanbay on Jan 23. The online Fastway tracker says the parcel is in Geelong, as of Jan 23, no other updates - maybe Fastway are using the same route Andy used to get the beans in to Australia? :-) Waiting patiently (mostly).
    Noonar, not sure where 'mortail coil' is but if you are in WA that is business as usual for Fastway, rare to get updates till it hits Perth. If you are somewhere where you would expect delivery in a week just ring Fastway (or email but they take a while to respond), they have a secondary in house system which will hopefully tell you where it is.
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    Thanks 338, yes I am in Perth and have previous experience with Fastway. Mortal coil is not far from- much ado about nothing. :-)
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    It usually takes 7 days. Once it took a bit longer but that was Christmas shenanigans. Also once it sat in Perth for a few days.

    Excellent value regardless getting the 18kg box for around $18!

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    If you enjoy fresh coffee and variety it makes sense, of course there's also a substantial dollar benefit.
    Green beans ordered for my first go at roasting. This may be the beginning of the end of travelling to my local roaster...
    If you need me, I shall be in the roasting section of the forum.
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    I'm just ordering "bits" till the big hit I had a laugh. Works well for me at the moment due to all the travel and weeks away. But if I miss a week, I'm a goner I had a laugh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noonar View Post
    Ordered 5kilos from beanbay on Jan 23. The online Fastway tracker says the parcel is in Geelong, as of Jan 23, no other updates - maybe Fastway are using the same route Andy used to get the beans in to Australia? :-) Waiting patiently (mostly).
    No other updates as it doesn't get unloaded and scanned until it gets to the other side of the country... which is a really long way away

    Currently shows:

    Onboard Your parcel is ready for delivery.
    Perth 01/02/2019 06:19:41
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonar View Post
    Ordered 5kilos from beanbay on Jan 23. The online Fastway tracker says the parcel is in Geelong, as of Jan 23, no other updates - maybe Fastway are using the same route Andy used to get the beans in to Australia? :-) Waiting patiently (mostly).
    My order was 22 Jan, 15kg various greens plus Quishr, arriving today in WA, Fastway flat box. Just slightly easier than sourcing it myself from Yemen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    No other updates as it doesn't get unloaded and scanned until it gets to the other side of the country... which is a really long way away

    Currently shows:

    Onboard Your parcel is ready for delivery.
    Perth 01/02/2019 06:19:41

    Be still my trembling heart, ye gods nectar is mere moments away. :-) Thanks Andy.
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    All the BTCOD efforts to get these special little beans from their origin to my palate deserves a lot more recognition than the homage I give here: Thanks again Andy... and everybody else in "the chain".1.jpg2.jpg3.jpg4.jpg5.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygale View Post
    Can’t wait to try
    Which one did you order Jaygale?
    What are you using to roast it?






    Ps got any old equipment you would like to sell?

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    Been brewing since 2 days after roast. Now @1 week I can say these beans are great from the get go. Interesting to observe the subtle changes/maturing of flavors and evolution in grind setting for these amazing, little beans!
    Great stuff thanks Andy
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    Thanks again Andy... and everybody else in "the chain"
    Great looking roast too, these will develop more and more flavour over the coming week and should produce one of the best espressos you have had. Amazing body and depth that's just not found in anything else.

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    awwww thanks. 26C ambient, preheated and loaded at 40, very first crack at 200 and 10mins, rolling 204 to 207, initial second at 218, no second rolling, dumped at 218.5 and 16.5mins. Tasted within an hour, if there is such a thing as a sultana marshmallow muffin sponge cake then that's what I got. Going to really enjoy the next 3 weeks :-).
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    Got mine delivered and plan on roasting this weekend. Any guidance Andy on the roast?

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    sultana marshmallow muffin sponge cake


    Nice, descriptor.

    Quote Originally Posted by skidquinn View Post
    Got mine delivered and plan on roasting this weekend. Any guidance Andy on the roast?
    Roast them well!
    My tips on my roaster are no good for you, you are better off leaning here from people with similar roasting equipment... and your own taste buds. That's the real reason to home roast, you get what YOU like, not the middle ground that I need to roast to suit everyone.
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