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Thread: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

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    Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    On the 13th September the CoffeeSnobs Brown Snobbery was broken into by whom I can only assume were dole bludging, drug using *scumbags that are too lazy to get off their backsides to improve their own lives and spend their abundance of tax payer funded *spare time making other people’s existence miserable.

    Included in their haul was 10kg of Espresso Wow! which was resting on the bench. *This could be the first time in coffee history that a *new blend has hit the market and the roastery robbed in the same night.

    Also taken was:

    ECM Giotto *(serial number 20070300262 )
    Pullman Jarrah Tamp to suit (serial number 1431 )
    Cunhil Tranquilio Grinder
    Climax Engineering deli grinder.
    Climax Engineering bag grinder.
    Electronic scales (30kg, 2g accuracy)
    Desktop computer, keyboard, mouse
    Viewsonic LCD monitor.
    1500Va UPS
    Dymo Twin Turbo label printer.
    Bean scoops.
    Vacuum bags, sample bags
    About 60kg green beans.
    4kg of “Dads blend” (shudder, they can keep that!)
    A big box of cleaning stuff
    2 x Hammer drills, 4.5” angle grinder, box of hand tools (used in the Snobbery construction).

    Please keep an eye out for the above *gear. *I would assume it will surface in the Geelong/Melbourne region but it could possibly appear further afield. *

    The thing that irks me the most is that these same scumbags will probably use the CoffeeSnobs resources on-line to learn how to use the equipment properly. *

    Dear Scumbag, inside the giotto (that the pretty shiny coffee thingy that you stole) you will find a green wire and red wire. *Please disconnect the green one and attach the red to the chrome chassis. *It will make much better coffee if you do that.

    Below are pics of some of the missing gear...








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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    Talk about making lemonade when life hands you lemons; the title of this thread is genius!

    The whole theft seems like a serious undertaking. Im almost surprised that the roaster is still there.

    Im sure that I speak for all of us in saying that you have our sympathy and our understanding that beanbay might be affected.

    Cheers,

    Luca

    PS. Scumbag, Andys coffee grinders might have wobbly burrs. You can fix the problem by inserting your fingers inbetween the cutting surfaces to hold the burrs as you grind.

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    Shame! Andy the serial number of the Jarrah tamper you (had!) is 1431 if you want to update this on your post.

    Scumbag, if youre unsure about what the shiny steel disc with the wooden handle does, its designed to be held above ones head and then brought down with great force. If used correctly, it may enable said user to think about their actions and return the stuff to their rightful owner!

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Ill be passing on the serial numbers of all the stuff to my entire network (including all ECM repairers)...

    One can only hope that these morons try to palm something off on an auction site or at a pub (preferably to a CSer)or that something breaks and needs to be repaired....Bring on a litte karmha I say...I hope whoever did this gets hit by a bus >:(

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Andy

    Really Really sorry to hear that.

    Be assured there are 3000+ pairs of eyes here, that will keep a close vigil on this.


    scumbag......suggest you attend the next Melb beanbay on 22nd Sept, there will be a large ammount of CSrs us who will be happy to errr take that gear off your hands for a good kicking errr sorry I mean price

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    Scumbag Barstards obviously had a ute or a truck..
    Hope the local Police are taking it seriously..

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    Sounds like it was well planned, which is very disturbing...

    Andy, I hope your insurance can cover your loses...real sorry to read about this!!!

    Those Climax Grinders will be hard to replace without doing the burr set again...

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    Sounds like they knew what they were after!?!
    Its one thing to try to flog computers etc. Its another to steel beloved brewing equipment + beans + tamper!

    Im real sorry to hear this news. There is plenty of tea (er...coffee?) and sympathy here.

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Sorry to hear Andy,
    Know how you feel, I was robbed a couple of christmas eves ago. Hopefully the unique nature of the gear stolen will allow for the little turd(s) to be found and punished.
    James

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    Hey Andy

    Extremely disappointed that someone could be so low and miserable to do this.

    Your serial numbers are on my desk and will be keeping a weather eye out for the gear, should it turn up this far north.

    All we can hope for is that they try to brew some coffee, create a really rancid / acid shot and choke to death.

    Gazz

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    Its not much but I can send you a 24 oz aluminium Scoop and a Plastic Paddle Commercial Grade -ex Bakery that went tits up locally..
    Had a Couple of spare Computers in the Garage but they all seem to have been there too long and are not booting up 100%..
    I Do have a older Alarm System Control Box 5-10 yrs old EDM DIGI AlArm sans PIR sensors but have heaps of Cable and a Howler/Light- Phone home Capable..
    Its yours if you want it.. Postage free from Moi
    Battery included..

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    Gday Andy....

    It takes all kinds of people to make the world....

    Just a pity you have had such an experience with some of the low life element.....

    However it looks like they were smart enough to know what to target and was worth taking..... Hopefully they were covered by insurance.

    Good luck!

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Sounds pretty bad to me....

    If the roaster wasnt so heavy and connected to chimmneys etc. they probably would have taken it too... Maybe another reason big roasters are so heavy:P

    60kgs of grean beans! Wow....

    Hope insurance will cover it

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    Really very sorry to hear this Andy.

    Have heard that thieves sometimes come back to pick up what they missed or looking for the new replacements. Might be worthwhile taking some additional precautions?

    All the best!

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    Thats a terrible thing to have happen.

    Really sorry to hear about this, Andy.

    - Rob

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    You could easily lift a 10kg capacity roaster on to a pallet and take it away if you heart so desires. Might take 3 blokes to do so...but its possible.

    Hope you get your gear back Andy....Ill keep my eyes and ears opened. Im sure people will scour ebay for you.

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    *:(
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    >:(

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Well, shit....that is unbelievable...
    there is one area in my life i am absolutely anal about and that is insurance: we have everything covered from left to right and top to bottom and then some.
    Andy, i hope you insurance helps you out, this is NOT an easy loss to cover in a relatively fledgling business.
    >:( :( >:( :(

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    Hi Andy, sorry to hear about this gross violation - couldnt have happened to a better bloke. As with the others, will keep a look out for the items around the place (goodness knows, the upgrade bug has hit and Ive been looking, so perhaps itll turn up in my browsing). Will pass on news to my non-CS coffee drinking friends.

    Regards,
    Ben

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Miserable little pieces of sh!t......

    Hopefully karma will cause them to drink bad coffee for the rest of their lives.

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.


    Hi all,

    This reply seems a little impersonal and I would love to reply to everyone individually but being in the middle of BeanBay life is a tad hectic as I’m sure you can all understand.

    What I can say sincerely is THANKS! Your thoughts, wishes, offers and “Dear Scumbag” letters of support are precious. I was avoiding telling the planet about this and was encouraged to list the items in the hope that lots of eyes peeled might turn something-up one day. I really love the community we have here and feel a whole lot better after venting to my fellow CS’rs.

    The brown bean production only suffered a hiccup on the weekend, luckily we have duplicates of the scales, scoops etc at home for the green beans so it was only a matter of taking it all on tour to the Snobbery for roasting (then back again). I have organised replacements of some of the stolen equipment but only what is really necessary to keep the brown beans flowing.

    We roasted all the orders late last night so they could ship Monday morning (which they did) and the ground orders went through the near industrial sized Compak K6 we have at home which is a pain for bag grinding (via a doser) but does a good job for now.

    Insurance? Well that is a little dubious for a few reasons so I’ll need to wait and see how good they are to deal with.

    The good news is that we have recovered well and refuse to let the "scumbags" win.

    Both green and brown beans are flowing again and we hope to keep all the BeanBay deliveries on track.

    Thanks again everyone,

    Andy.

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Andy,
    I just lost $2500 worth of my gear when I was broken into only a month ago , stuff I used everyday and was very valuable to me, although what you lost of worth much more I do feel for ya and hope the theiving a-holes get caught. Think if maybe we all keep a printout of the list handy when we are doing our searches etc might be an idea.
    I may be flamed for saying this but I wish those gun laws wernt in place, yes thats not the answer I know, but it still ps me orf hearing these bludgers doing this, my street had yet another car broken into last night and a window smashed down further.
    And insurance dont start me on that, they only offered 20%.
    Sullos
    Anything we can do to help Im sure all the csersll be behind ya.

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Damn, only just saw this - will keep an eye out in the West as well, you never know how far it will travel.

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    Re: Espresso Wow!  -- Good enough to steal.

    So Andy any particular roaster not up to scratch that you have been taking clients from? Coffee scoops? not really worth anything on the market exept to make life hard for you. Beans would only be worth something to someone who roasts. Computer? I bet all your roasting logs and blending, intellectual property etc was on it.

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Andy,
    A pity those sort of people dont put into Society as much effort as they are willing to take from those who work from it.
    As a green bean, thanks for your site - so much information & so much to learn - Especially roasting, baking & burning my starter pack in a popper. Will get there eventually.

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Andy, thanks for letting us know about the theft, and your loss.

    At best our respnse can be that the theft is an inconvenience (which it is), then we can range to a sense of violation (if home break in) or grief if items have great emotional value.

    Once the outrage or grief subsides it is good to adopt a logical, practical approach. We are all at risk of theft, how do we manage that risk?

    A response which answers one illegal action with another illegal action adds insult to our injury, at our own hand.

    True, I dont see things in a black and white manner, though I am becoming less tolerant of poor coffee!

    I hope that this event doesnt provide you with too much of a setback.

    Thanks for your work on this coffeesnobs thing.

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Andy, your loss ... yes, a fully frustrating shite of an experience. But mate, your (somewhat understandable ...) demographic pinpoint of the supposed perpetrators has just fuelled the emotions here on the bloody forum, & we now have a thread castigating an element of society!

    Un-intentionally instigated, I know - but its moving into an interesting revelation of CSs sociological points-of-view! And their politics?

    Do ya prefer your brew/perspective black or white?

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.


    Yes my "demographic pinpoint of the supposed perpetrators" was a stereotypical assumption.

    Ill now add Tom Albanese (CEO of Rio Tinto) to my suspect list.
    ;)


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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    nahhh, come on Andy - Id suspect Paul Bulcke (new CEO at Nestle) could be the brains behind the op. All this home-roasting educating consumers palates is surely threatening their core business!!!!

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    First let me say that this is really the work of pond scum. After all the hard work Andy has put into this site and the service he provides, this is a foul deed, especially if they got the info from this site....

    As for the demographic, maybe they are unemployed coffee roasters?

    If they are coffee roasters, lets forgive them and give them this bit of inside advice for getting the best from their roasting: The coffeesnobs preferred method for precise roast control is to get into the drum with the beans while holding a small hand held thermometer. Only then can you really profile the roast to get it perfect. Go on... give it a go. Youll be surprised at the result.

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Just an add-on to Sparkys advice to the pond scums - be they CEOs or crack-fd junkies, think bean blend profile, roast results, & best price on market.

    Luwak fetches top $ ... so ...

    Whilst calibrating said thermometer to ensure optimal roast, ingest the green beans surrounding you (DONT chew, swallow whole, this is imperative) as you get a comfy spot in the drum, alternate with a laxative, then after prob an hour, turn the heat on. The end blend will be quite unique ...

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    Re: Espresso Wow! *-- Good enough to steal.

    Hey Andy,

    Just saw this now and really sorry to hear about it.

    No matter who did it or what they took, this kind of thing totally sucks :(

    Hopefully what goes around will come around and whoever did it will get whats coming to them.

    Still, good to see you taking it in your stride and soldiering on!

    Playing victim only lets the bad guys win more...

    cheers mate!

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    Resurrecting a 12 year old thread...

    Last night Paula was "surfing the web" and browsing items from a local auction house when she spotted the following:

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    Surely not right?

    This morning she went in there and had a look and took a picture of the Giotto serial number.

    Sure enough, when she got back to work we found this thread and matched the serial to the Giotto and the grinders match too. Next couple of hours she liaised with the local police and the auction house, they put the items aside (even though they had already sold) and the police spoke with the seller. Turns out that seller was cleaning out the shed and these "belonged" to his (deceased) step son.

    Bizarre!

    Paula might look at the auction website a few times a year even though it's on every fortnight and managed to not only pick the right day to look but noticed the gear and showed me.

    The Senior Constable that followed it up and the auction house were both amazingly helpful considering our proof of ownership was a print-out of the first post in this thread and a theft report from 12 years ago. The seller also agreed with the police that returning them to CoffeeSnobs was the right thing to do.

    So after a not very glamorous dozen years in a shed, the machine and grinders are "coming home" soon.

    This might be the lowest usage, oldest Giotto on the planet... also one of the grubbiest!

    I might have to check the chassis grounding before plugging it in though.
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    Best zombie thread resurrection ever.

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    So when are the "uniquely aged micro lot, 60kg limited run" going up on BeanBay?
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    Deceased son.... Choked on his guilt we can only hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrebird View Post
    Best zombie thread resurrection ever.
    I had a laugh!! Amazing the 8 year difference in timestamp from original thread to update

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    Eight years? Try 12 years.


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    I recognise that Giotto Andy. Closed the loop as they say...

    It's ripe for a fully sick restopimping now. Open brief to The Coffee Machinist I say...
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    Amazing. Can they check the guys shed in case any of the other stuff is still there?
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    I thought they might but also expect anything easy to flip (like the tools) went straight away and the fact that there is no one to charge makes it less interesting for the law.

    Besides, not sure I really want 10kg of Espresso Wow back, it's a great blend but might not improve with 12 years ageing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    I thought they might but also expect anything easy to flip (like the tools) went straight away and the fact that there is no one to charge makes it less interesting for the law.

    Besides, not sure I really want 10kg of Espresso Wow back, it's a great blend but might not improve with 12 years ageing.
    12 years of ageing, you might be pulling some amazing coffee liqueur.....

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    I have just "bought" 500g of that aged Expresso WOW by way of a Fair Crack donation at the current market rate (rounded up)

    A nice way to revive the thread and do some good at the same time.

    Feel like doing the same?
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