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    Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Hello all, and thanks for checking out mlittle thread.

    I have a Silvia PID (thank you very much Speleomike) and a Sunbeam EM0480.

    The only problem is that if I persist in grinding beans at 6am with the Sunbeam, I will arrive one morning to find it grinding acoustic baffle (a threat from a semi-resident musician).

    So begins my first session of upgraditis (if you dont count my "upgrade" from the Aeropress to the Silvia, Apples to Oranges).

    I have $450, and 2 functioning kidneys. I am perfectly happy with the grind quality of the EM0480 (dont kill me, I make cappuccinos primarily), but I must have something of (at least) equivalent quality, possibly some finer grind settings, but it MUST be quiet. I dont care what I have to teflon tape or styrofoam inject, I have an engineer onhand. Stale grinds I can clean away, hopper is neither here nor there. How does the Rocky compare?

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Theyre all pretty noisy hey haha. Rocky is slightly quieter I reckon, but not by much. Keeping the lid on the hopper helps reduce the noise....

    The Compak K3-T seems quieter again, dunno though.

    Wrapping some acoustic foam around it temporarily while grinding could be a go haha

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Hi

    Im not joking here but what about a really nice quality hand grinder? Many of them are very good conical grinders which can grind for espresso. They are fiddly to adjust the grind size but once its adjusted right for espresso it will be quiet.

    A vintage looking but new hand grinder from a sponsor here will nicely complement the PID :-)

    (Rocky is as noisy as an EM0980 as I have used both.)

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Im deaf in one ear and might soon be in need of cheap accomodation.
    Maybe you can kick to grumpy muso out.

    I might even bring a quieter grinder with me.
    Would that be irony?

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    I say put a hoodie on it ;)



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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee Kosmo link=1229479104/0#4 date=1229486415
    I say put a hoodie on it ;)
    ..or (with bling characteristics)



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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    I used to have that trouble on Sunday mornings as my wife really needed her sleep-in.

    I wrapped the whole body of the grinder in a towel with the spout only exposed. If I was feeling especially generous I would also go into the laundry and close the door before grinding.

    I havent heard a grinder a quiet as my M4D, which is much quieter than a Rocky, but more than twice as expensive!

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Apart from what Mike and Greg have suggested, I dont what else you could do "koopa"....

    Even high quality so-called Prosumer Grinders will make a reasonable level of noise while grinding the beans and then quieten down when spinning free. I spose you could always opt for something in the SJ class of grinder as they are reasonably quick so the noise would be short-lived... but then youve got the noise of the Doser Dispensing Lever "thwacking" away while you scrape the last few grains of coffee from it.

    A few years ago, I remember reading of a guy on alt.coffee who made a custom anechoic box to place over the grinder while it worked. He caught the grounds in a small container that fit tightly under the discharge chute (it was a doserless). Maybe something like that could work..... :-?

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    I just reread the opening post and realised the grump is only "a semi-resident musician".

    semi-resident.

    Doesnt even live there all the time.

    Tell the musician to just f-f-f... fade away.

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Hi Koopa

    What you may have to do is to pre-grind the night before, place the ground coffee in a small plastic or glass jar so minimise aroma loss and use that at 6.00 am. It will still be "fresh" coffee compared to Franklins or Woolworths and still pretty good.

    I know some CSers here will moan at pre-ground but all that you will notice is that the pour rate will be slightly different from a grind 5 mins old. You can adjust for that with your tamp. I really think it will still taste and smell wonderful.

    (All decent, powerful burr grinders will be noisy)

    Mike

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1229479104/0#8 date=1229516099
    I just reread the opening post and realised the grump is only "a semi-resident musician".

    semi-resident.

    Doesnt even live there all the time.

    Tell the musician to just f-f-f... fade away.
    haha, yeah I agree TG. The words, "Suck it up princess" come to mind. ::)

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    If they are a rock musician they are probably half-deaf already! This will match the semi-resident status.

    Greg
    (only fully paid members get to complain)

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Tell your flatmate to buy some silicone, mouldable earplugs from a chemist. My husband grinds coffee at 6am each day and with earplugs in I dont hear a thing. Theyre great for other times too - like when other residents of the household come home drunk at 3am amd decide to make a snack in the kitchen.

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    I deliberately grind to annoy my neighbours as they like to make water hammer and slam doors at 5:30am...

    When Im feeling generous, I go into the spare room, shut the door and grind or I grind while theyre out and put it in an airtight container until the morning.

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    any electric grinder ive ever used has been pretty noisy, its just a matter of how long for. Is the semi-resident musician who had the hide to complain also drinking the fruits of your labours? If so, then if they dont like the noise they can stop drinking the coffee!

    I would also think that a muso should have the sort of earplugs mentioned before, that may well be the best solution.

    Mind you, the militant rent paying sharehouser in me also wants to add that if the muso isnt paying rent or bills they are in no position to complain about what you do in the house you do pay rent for. If they dont like it then they should go to their own house! ::)


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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Ive got my backup Sunbeam EM450 in the garage for early morning java sessions, I leave it set for plunger and I can have good coffee, no noise, stay in the good books, its a good way to try new roasts as well.
    Rocky is quieter than Sunbeam but still makes a racket!!

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Has anyone had any experience with the Kyocera Ceramic Coffee Mills?

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    After reading this a couple of days ago I decided to wrap a tea towel around the rocky to see the difference.

    I was surprised by the amount of reduction I got just by loosley wrapping the teatowel around the hopper and over the lid. I reckon with a bit more thought as to positioning, and maybe a slightly thicker towel, you to would be surprised by the results. Might be a lttle more fiddley, but it is a pretty cheap mod for existing grinders compared to the outlay of a quieter machine.
    Though Ive heard lamer excuses for upgraditis ;) :)

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Half the noise from the notoriously noisy Gran Macinino comes from the lid rattling against the hopper. An elastic band around the top of the hopper bodges a fix so that the noise is roughly comparable to the machine pump. (I.e. theres not much point in reducing the noise further as Im going to be making more of the same.) Its annoying that Isomac didnt put foam around the inside of the lid.

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    I just have the same problem here.
    I brought my old set (Sunbeam EM6910 and EM480) to my office to share with other students.
    People are pretty happy about the coffee but complaint about the grinding noise.
    I then got a better grinder (isomac professionale), but it even more noisy.
    Searching around for similar price product but produce less noise, read a review about Breville smart grinder.
    It seems must quiet than others.
    I wonder if any one have experience both and can support this review?
    I am almost kicked out from my office if my supervisor start to get irritated.
    Cheers
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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Quote Originally Posted by 414D4E4B4C55474C220 link=1229479104/19#19 date=1320641090
    Breville smart grinder.
    Ive used both and the Smart Grinder is up there with the EM0480.

    Grinders like the Rocky and the Mini are quieter than the EM0480, but I reckon the key is to get a grinder that will do the job quickly because theres always some level of noise when crushing beans.

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    My Vario is really quiet and really quick and really good :) I have not hesitation to use it early in the morning. Of course it wouldnt beat a hand grinder for quietness. Hand grinder will help you get the blood flowing in the morning too ;)

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    @specialpants
    Thanks a lot.
    It seems like I need to pay more for a better grinder to sort this noise issue.

    @Yash
    The Vario grinder is Mahlkonig Vario Grinder or Baratza Vario Grinder? (or they are the same?)
    They looks identical from google image.
    But either of them are more expensive than I can offer for a grinder.
    Still thanks for your experience.

    Colin

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    could get a hand grinder for the early morning coffee and grind with a machine at other times

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3E26342F2E292B26332E21470 link=1229479104/21#21 date=1320677346
    My Vario is really quiet and really quick and really good :) I have not hesitation to use it early in the morning. Of course it wouldnt beat a hand grinder for quietness.* Hand grinder will help you get the blood flowing in the morning too* ;)

    I too was looking for the holy grail of quiet home grinders & agree about the Vario - I was lucky to pick one up as new here on CS for $400. Id read a few reviews where it was said it was a great grinder but too $$$ but had I seen/used one in the flesh I reckon I would of forked out $650 for it new.

    The Vario is way quieter than my old Gaggia MDF which is pretty noisy (but Ive heard noisier).

    The other grinder I was considering was the Nuova Simonelli MCF (with doser), Di Bella had them for $450 new. One of the selling points was that this grinder was (relatively) quiet - looks like they arent on their website any more though.

    I think the Eureka Minion is the same/similar as the NS MCF but doserless and may be worth investigating but again is $500 - $600 new from memory.


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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Forget electric grinders if you need quiet for under 500$

    For a cheap, solid hand grinder, look for a spong on ebay. They have a fairly decent grind quality (better than your current) and dont take forever to grind a shots worth or two. And they certainly go fine enough for any espresso machine.

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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    I just do some "beach towel mod" on my Isomac Professionale grinder.
    So far I feel the noise decrease quite bit.
    At least my office colleague and supervisor did not complain after all.



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    Re: Need new quieter grinder or deaf housemates.

    Ive noticed that most of the noise of my ECM Best grinder is really vibration/resonance. If you lift it with the motor on, most of the noise disappears. The actual motor and burrs arent noisy at all. I think part of the problem is that the rubber feet are too solid and do not isolate the vibration.

    To solve this, I sat the grinder on a thick mousepad. Much better. Far quieter than my old Delonghi KG100, which is a much higher pitch shrill noise.

    Its worth a try.



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