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    Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Hi CSs,

    Im awaiting the arrival of a well loved Giotto premium from dirty old ebay (the owner knows very little of its age , use and possibly just how good this unit could be).

    The problem is this, I blew my budget on the machine itself ( i was capped @ $1K and went well beyond!)

    I fear (well, i know) my Breville grinder will not cut the mustard to do the unit justice.

    Most threads regale the Macap & Mazzer, but I dont think i can stretch to that.

    Is anyone using a thriftier grinder or got a second hander they need to get rid of, or do i just need to put the Giotto on ice til i can fund a quality grinder?

    Look forward to your responses.

    B

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    Hi Brizett
    The Breville wont cut it. Youll need to aim for at least a Sunbeam EM0480 but recommend extending to a Rocky. The Macap appears ton be the recommended choice. I have a Mazzer Mini which is also good.

    You could post a WTB in the Equipment for Sale but youll need to nominate a price.

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    Our recommendation is that suitable grinders for the Giotto start at the Compak K3T. Dont buy a Ferrari and then expect it to run well on diesel!

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    Quote Originally Posted by 03363B3C08143831313232570 link=1254295505/2#2 date=1254296734
    Our recommendation is that suitable grinders for the Giotto start at the Compak K3T. Dont buy a Ferrari and then expect it to run well on diesel!
    Id certainly agree with that, but I couldnt imagine keeping a beautiful machine like this under wraps while saving up for a better grinder.

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    I have a pair of Cunill Tranquilos..... Tranquil (silent)they are not, bit ugly ,yep, can they do the job?? Sure can * ........

    PM me for details

    Eventually Ill upgrade , but Ill keep one for Decaff.

    good luck

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    The Rocky, especially with a very simple and reversible mod for stepless and tight carriers is very good value and built to last forever...and if it, modded, can serve it up well to my commercial 2 group, it can serve it up well to anything.

    Cheers

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    If you can get your Breville to grind fine enough, then at least youll be able to use your new baby and drink reasonable coffee. Id certainly be trying it.

    Greg

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    I have my ECM Giotto paired with a Compak K3 Elite (doser) and can certainly recommend it. as far as I know the K3T is exactly the same apart from being doserless and is nearlyh $300 cheaper.

    What is your budget?

    Second-hand commerical grinders are usually easy to come by, although youd want to inspect before buying and maybe budget for a set of replacement burrs.

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    Thank you all, for your valuable input.

    Im thinking with my budget knocking around $300, i could pick up a 2nd hand Rocky?

    And Greg, ill certainly be trying her out, with or without fresh grinds!

    Im certainly going to have to go second hand, so id better start my research into what to look for....

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    You can put a wanted ad in the Coffee Hardware for Sale section of the forum. CS members are generally people who look after their equipment well.

    They are also known for regularly suffering upgraditis.

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    I think a pepper grinder with plastic burrs would be more that suitable

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    use pre- ground from the super market, the stuff on special is usually best, because its closest to the used by date.
    ;)

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    Quote Originally Posted by 330801120B22010914600 link=1254295506/10#10 date=1254387895
    I think a pepper grinder with plastic burrs would be more that suitable
    than what?
    Quote Originally Posted by 330801120B22010914600 link=1254295506/10#10 date=1254387895
    use pre- ground from the super market, the stuff on special is usually best, because its closest to the used by date
    ;D
    Just on a side note, chris from talk coffee does a thermostability upgrade for this machine also, pretty cheap for the amount of research hes done and the results that ive heard, do a search for it on here, youll find it.
    As far as the grinder goes, even if you have to wait a little longer,and put up with average coffee out of the breville, save those bickies, and get the best you can possibly afford.....it really really makes a difference. a common thought around here is you can allow half the money you paid for the machine for a grinder.......

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    Quote Originally Posted by 494842514F4A50230 link=1254295506/7#7 date=1254305442
    Second-hand commerical grinders are usually easy to come by, although youd want to inspect before buying and maybe budget for a set of replacement burrs.
    Id second the keeping the eyes peeled for a commercial grinder (if youre not put off by having a 15-20 kg behemoth on the kitchen bench ;D), you never know what might come up. They can often be picked up for a lot less than a good domestic grinder.

    Otherwise - K3, M4, Mini, would be an appropriate match for the GP, and probably worth saving for, rather than settling for a cheaper one.

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    I wouldnt put anything less than a M4/Mini with it (maybe a KS or K3), and would be tempted to save up for much, much more.

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    I know you said that you want to spend $300 but you also asked what is the best grinder to suit your Giotto Premium

    I would say anything less from the below list is false economy

    Minimum - Rancilio Rocky
    Best suited - Mazzer mini, Macap M4/5, Compak K3 Elite
    Bargain if size and space allows - Used commercial grinder

    Dont forget a good comfortable tamper is essential

    KK

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    Add K3 touch to that list. It is closer to a rocky in price than a mazzer but is on par with the mini. The only disadvantage (if it is even one) is that it doesnt have a doser.

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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0E2A232320201A0E2A36282A450 link=1254295506/14#14 date=1254464429
    I would say anything less from the below list is false economy

    Minimum - Rancilio Rocky
    If your talking Rocky in this bunch , youd have to have a Cunill el Tranquilo as an option. Surely that would be better value than a Rocky....
    Bigger motor , larger blades, built like a tank .... not pretty , but all the same internals as the Cunill commercial grinders.

    Get my vote for best value (affordable ) grinder on the market.

    hotshod



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    Re: Which grinder to suit Giotto Premium?

    Coffeehorse - as someone who can compare Rocky with Rocky modded (the tube mod) with Super Jolly I think a modded Rocky boxes (no pun intended) well above its weight. The SJ brings a consistency and sweetness to shots that the Rocky as modded cannot do, but how long is a piece of string. I think the difference in price is worthwhile, but others may not. The Rocky as modded in my opinion at least, is still a very very good grinder make no mistake.
    Cheers



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