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    OOps - How to beg forgiveness?

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    I was watching an auction on trademe which was due to close. It looked like someone had an autobid on it, its a Compak K6. I threw on a bid of $218 NZ pesos expecting for the autobid to quickly trump me, but no.

    I am now the somewhat scared owner of a Compak K6



    From what I have seen, this is bigger than a Super Jolly (?)

    Is it a good grinder, Im assuming it will be a bit of a step up from my Sunbeam?

    Sen

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    Bugger ;) Tell the truth and that if Mrs (??) Senator hates it that much you will sell it on Evil Bay ::)

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    now you will have to upgrade your machine :)

    I had a laugh *@ snap purchases then buyers remorse.......

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    What a steal - nice purchase. Even if it needs a new burr set its still a bargain and you should never need to upgrade!

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    well, the level of shite wasnt that deep fortunately.

    Its pretty close to xmas plus the money I should get for the sunbeam will make it a fairly painless "upgrade". She still doesnt know its bigger than a SJ, but meh by the time she sees it, itll be too late.

    I figure this grinder should do me for whatever machine is next (and judging by the state of the collar on my 6910, it will most likely be in the next 6 - 12 months)


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    Good stuff Senator, enjoy your purchase :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3F333A37373E520 link=1259788999/2#2 date=1259791277
    now you will have to upgrade your machine :)

    I had a laugh *@ snap purchases then buyers remorse.......
    Post purchase dissonance ;)

    Senator:

    The seller can counter post purchase dissonance, which is the "Ive made a terrible mistake" feeling that you get after buying something that wasnt quite what you thought it would be; by offering good value and by running a good follow-up program.


    Post purchase is a concept that is known as “cognitive dissonance”. The customer, having bought a product, may feel that an alternative would have been preferable. In these circumstances that customer will not re-purchase immediately, but is likely to switch brands next time ???

    To manage the post-purchase stage, it is the job of the marketing team to persuade the potential customer that the product will satisfy his or her needs. Then after having made a purchase, the customer should be encouraged that he or she has made the right decision.



    The model implies that customers pass through all stages in every purchase. However, in more routine or impulse purchases, customers often skip or reverse some of the stages.


    I guess you need to convince Mrs Senator that she made the right decision ;)

    Can I have a coffee with that ;D

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    Twas more I hadnt consulted with the minister of finance rather than doubt about the product (now true marketing geniuses would come up with a sheet of "justifications" on purchases where ministarial authority had not been obtained prior).

    Really excited about getting this now :)

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    Re: OOps - How to beg forgiveness?

    Quote Originally Posted by 547B72706758747B74727078707B61150 link=1259788999/6#6 date=1259798408
    Quote Originally Posted by 3F333A37373E520 link=1259788999/2#2 date=1259791277
    now you will have to upgrade your machine :)

    I had a laugh *@ snap purchases then buyers remorse.......
    Post purchase dissonance *;)

    Senator:

    The seller can counter post purchase dissonance, which is the "Ive made a terrible mistake" feeling that you get after buying something that wasnt quite what you thought it would be; *by offering good value and by running a good follow-up program.


    Post purchase is a concept that is known as “cognitive dissonance”. The customer, having bought a product, may feel that an alternative would have been preferable. In these circumstances that customer will not re-purchase immediately, but is likely to switch brands next time ???

    To manage the post-purchase stage, it is the job of the marketing team to persuade the potential customer that the product will satisfy his or her needs. Then after having made a purchase, the customer should be encouraged that he or she has made the right decision.



    The model implies that customers pass through all stages in every purchase. However, in more routine or impulse purchases, customers often skip or reverse some of the stages.


    I guess you need to convince Mrs Senator that she made the right decision *;)

    Can I have a coffee with that *;D
    Not a bad basic flow chart AM, however in most cases the first box should read (Want recognition and problem awareness) we seldom need what we buy and could live quite comfortably without it.
    However wouldnt life be boring if we were all that practical? :)

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    You could live without good coffee?

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    Its arrived :) :) :)

    Cant wait to get home from work to set it up. It doesnt seem as large as what I was expecting, but then again, it isnt sitting next to my 6910, so it may only be then that the size becomes obvious. The person forgot to send the hopper, but they are sending that now (its cracked which I knew, so I have already contacted a sponsor about the mini hopper).

    I didnt realise that its an auto, with a guard infront of the exit chute that switches the unit on and off, can this be altered so that its permanently on, with only the power switch starting / stopping the grinder? (not a biggy, just a little bit of a pain).

    Definitely needs a bit of a clean (milk spatters on the doser and the body of the grinder) plus old grinds etc, but still for what I paid, I cant complain.

    Looks like it may also take a while to adjust, the amount of adjustment is huge, but I guess thats part of the fun of a new toy :)

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    We need pictures!

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    Nice One Senator
    I have a K8 [Same body, different motor, different burrs...IIRC] and its great, very fast and quiet....superb build quality
    The quietness was a big plus in my household

    I would recommend you remove the auto cut off, its easy to do [from a mechanical perspective] but it requires some electrical experience.
    [The wires to it need to be correctly rejoined and insulated.]
    They are 240VAC and can kill if not properly terminated.

    The grinder is much easier to use [visually] and access to clean out the chute is 9000% better without it.

    You will probably want to remove the front mounted tamper, for better visibility of the PF.

    When you remove the upper burr carrier, you will find heaps of gunk to clean out in the threads.
    I found when I reinstalled it that there was a bit of slop.
    There is a locking screw which you can use to tighten it, but I ended up using teflon tape on the threads as I like to adjust my grind a lot.

    When you remove the upper burr, count the number of clockwise rotations it takes to remove it [in my K8 = 8 turns]

    When replacing my upper burr, once I hit the 8th turn, I keep going very slowly untill I just feel the burrs touch each other, then I back off by a bit less than 1/4 of a turn. [Visualising by clockdial it would be about the equivalent of rotating back from 3:00 to 5:00 or 5:30]....YMMV


    Grind adjustment [assuming pointer is at 6:00, would usually range from 7:30 to 5:30] depending on bean/ blend etc

    The doser is excellent and wipes pretty clean.
    You can make it better by sticking the furry side of self adhesive velcro under the vanes.retained

    I also dropped the forks down by about 5mm

    Only downside is the square chute: it retains a lot of grinds and will require cleaning after each session, or you should run it to clear out and discard the stale retains at the start of each session..

    FWIW I dont use the hopper with mine, I fill the throat with a double shot dose and grind through the doser.
    I use the end of a plunger as a cap [over the throat], and give that a bash when the beans have been ground and all of the retained grinds blow out into the doser.

    Anyways have fun with it.

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    Nice one Sen, maybe next time in ChCh I can sample the results ;)

    Chris

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    OK

    At home and set up, only about 250gr of beans so far and still not quite right (a bit coarse, but getting there).

    Without a hopper, it can be a messy bugger, but have the dosing thing sorted, fill up the single and then load into the double, not sure why but this seems pretty close in terms of volume.

    First pic shows the size comparison to the 6910, it surprisingly doesnt look "that big" next to it (although, no hopper yet). Ofcourse my opinion of not too big and the Mrs, well.....



    2nd is pic after I have finished dosing out. Still looks like a lot left to me, but dont know if this is normal or not. What is the easy way to get this out?





    and finally, the beast by itself




    Its a lot quieter than the 0480 and a lot quicker. Still seems strange running the grinder without the group handle loaded under it to catch the grinds.

    The forks are also fractionally high, I cant get my container under there that I use for the coffee for work, but Im sure I can work out these details.

    Sorry about the lousy phone cam photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11272C23362D30420 link=1259788999/14#14 date=1260260194
    OK

    At home and set up, only about 250gr of beans so far and still not quite right (a bit coarse, but getting there).

    Without a hopper, it can be a messy bugger, but have the dosing thing sorted, fill up the single and then load into the double, not sure why but this seems pretty close in terms of volume.

    First pic shows the size comparison to the 6910, it surprisingly doesnt look "that big" next to it (although, no hopper yet). Ofcourse my opinion of not too big and the Mrs, well.....



    2nd is pic after I have finished dosing out. Still looks like a lot left to me, but dont know if this is normal or not. What is the easy way to get this out?





    and finally, the beast by itself




    Its a lot quieter than the 0480 and a lot quicker. Still seems strange running the grinder without the group handle loaded under it to catch the grinds.

    The forks are also fractionally high, I cant get my container under there that I use for the coffee for work, but Im sure I can work out these details.

    Sorry about the lousy phone cam photos.

    Sen
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    1: Rough grind for plunger or decaf
    2: EM6910 for when those guests (>4) drop over at the last min
    3: Microwave for those who want it nuked..

    Absolutely Fab... ;D 8-) :-*

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    And Chris - absolutely, hopefully its not in the middle of our Holiday trading period when we are run off our feet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 5F69626D78637E0C0 link=1259788999/10#10 date=1260244159
    I didnt realise that its an auto, with a guard infront of the exit chute that switches the unit on and off, can this be altered so that its permanently on, with only the power switch starting / stopping the grinder? (not a biggy, just a little bit of a pain).
    On some grinders the auto cut-off switch is on a long wire and you can remove the switch from in front of the chute and hang it outside the doser.

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    Re: OOps - How to beg forgiveness?

    Its now been a few days since getting the grinder home and have gotten it pretty close to where I want it.

    I was sort of a sceptic about what sort of a difference a grinder would make to my coffee through the 6910, I shouldnt have been.

    There is a lot more flavour coming through the extraction, more depth and a lot more sweetness, also flavours that I just havent tasted before (EG almost a caramel flavour in my columbian / sumatran blend that I am drinking now).

    The jury is still out on the whole doser vs doserless thing for me. Im filling the hopper shot at a time and letting it grind out, mostly cause I dont want to waste too many beans as it will take me a while to judge how much is needed for a shot. I realise that this is the best method to get the freshest grind, but I find it fidly and painful.

    Grind adjustment is amazing with small changes possible (so small that I havent yet got it 100% right), but its pretty close. Just need to tweak to get the single shot right.

    Sen

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    Re: OOps - How to beg forgiveness?

    I use a shot glass to measure beans
    For my set up I use 55 ml of roasted beans for a double shot

    It works for me and its simple & easy

    KK




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