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    New or 2nd hand?

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    Hi Everyone, First post and Im very glad to find a full-on community like this in my own backyard.
    I recently took possesion of of a new Groupo Izzo and have been playing around with different grinds and varieties from my local coffee bean suplier, and are now ready to invest in my fist grinder.
    Like most of us its champagne taste beer budget, but I am interested get your comments on buying a good 2nd hand commercial or a new semi-com/domestic type grinder. I like the idea of a commercial type because of consistancy and longevity, space is not really an issue and im quite usefull with my hands for servicing. What do you think? Cheers, Andrew.

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    Re: New or 2nd hand?

    Welcome to Coffee Snobs Andrew.

    If you are confident in your ability to buy 2nd hand and do a little servicing you can get a good grinder for a big $ saving.

    Where are you located?

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    Re: New or 2nd hand?

    I scored 2 commercials from a Coffee Roaster on the Bay of evil and they came with a new set of burrs as well. All they needed was a full strip and clean. BUT as TG said you need to take the risk and generally if the doser is OK then worst case may be bearings and burrs.

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    Re: New or 2nd hand?

    Cheers for responses. Im in Melbourne, northern Sub.
    Now for the tin of worms....it seems most commercial grinders are good and it comes down to condition and brand (snob) preference, fair comment?

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    Re: New or 2nd hand?

    Hey Mraj,
    Welcome to CS! its a great community and youll have a ball if you hang around!, get togethers, roast offs, major event meetings etc etc, i was fortunate enough to pick up a second hand (pretty much new) Mazzer Super Jolly from 9bar espresso services for less than half retail.....its a beauty i love it and doubt ill ever update it.....I had a laugh, they are out there, just have to do some research, email all the sponsors in one email to sitesponsors@coffeesnobs.com.au, you never know your luck!

    Just to add, i prolly wouldnt buy second hand from anyone i didnt know, with the sponsors you are guaranteed honesty, and if anything does go wrong......they are one friendly phone call away ;)

    cheers
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    Re: New or 2nd hand?

    Quote Originally Posted by 253636234C0 link=1265869126/0#0 date=1265869126
    I am interested get your comments on buying a good 2nd hand commercial or a new semi-com/domestic type grinder. I like the idea of a commercial type because of consistancy and longevity, space is not really an issue and im quite usefull with my hands for servicing. *What do you think? Cheers, Andrew.
    Hi Andrew and welcome,
    I bought a 2nd hand commercial grinder from someone I met thru CS. $200 for a machine that retails new for over a G. Its old, so ugly its loveable and lacks the bling of the u beaut Mazzers but grinds to perfection and will go forever - $55 for new burrs. Patience is the key -youll get something from a sponsor or elsewhere for a fraction of the price of a new thingy.

    Unless of course you like shiny new toys...

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    Re: New or 2nd hand?

    When I upgraded
    I purchased a less than 12 month old Mazzer Major. This is beautiful grinder with 83mm dia burrs

    Most commercial grinders are build like tanks

    Eventually my upgrade road may lead me to a large conical burr grinder

    KK

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    Re: New or 2nd hand?

    I bought a K3 new but if I do upgrade it looks like it will be for a 2nd hand one next time, with new burrs.

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    Re: New or 2nd hand?

    Quote Originally Posted by 181C3A232326392E214F0 link=1265869126/4#4 date=1265877934
    i prolly wouldnt buy second hand from anyone i didnt know
    I tend to agree. I bought a grinder a 2nd hand grinder a while back and when it arrived and I checked it out, felt quite uncomfortable as it did not seem to match the sellers description of age, amount of use, etc. It was also missing a few bits and pieces that normally come with it. So in the end, I dont think it was really worth it. I ended up selling it at a loss and forking out for a new one.

    The problem is that if you buy second hand, replace the burrs etc., and then something goes wrong with it, you do not have a warranty to fall back on. Then your saving is gone.

    So I would only recommend buying something where you know the person and know the history, or from one of the CS sponsors.

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    Re: New or 2nd hand?


    I think second hand grinders are okay. You just have to be careful in selecting them. Also try to check out the grinder in person before the sale if you can. Ask how much usage has it had? ask about burrs and give it a general look over.

    You can usually tell if the grinder has been treated well by its appearance.

    I bought my semi-commercial grinder second hand and it is doing a very good job.

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    Re: New or 2nd hand?

    Quote Originally Posted by 181C3A232326392E214F0 link=1265869126/4#4 date=1265877934
    i prolly wouldnt buy second hand from anyone i didnt know
    Quote Originally Posted by 6B647F736B6E6B7C0A0 link=1265869126/9#9 date=1266560579
    I bought my semi-commercial grinder second hand and it is doing a very good job. *
    Collectors buy things off people they do not know all the time and they are extremely fussy about their gear!

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    Re: New or 2nd hand?

    Thanks Everyone. Fantastic range of advice and experience, and so true...talk with your local/favourite roasters and cafes.

    I stumbled upon a small local cafe/roasting house (PADRE in East Brunswick, Melb.) and discovered they are very serious about what they do and the level of service they provide their costomers. I tried one of their roast but had a lot of trouble producing a good shot...poured too quickly and very sour. After replacing my coffee (FOC) with a finer grind i mentioned i was in the middle of grinder research and eventually would be purchasing. They mentioned they had super jolly they had used for decaf (little use) that they didnt need any more and offered it to me. I checked it out, said thank you very much and handed over... $350! :o

    A nice outcome. Thank you everyone here, and the guys at Padre. BTW, the shots are pouring a whole lot better now and coffee is very good.

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    Re: New or 2nd hand?

    Excellent pickup and result :) And Padre is good stuff too 8-)



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