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    Minimalism in coffee grinding

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Looked about, but my good buddy Google wasnt talkative.

    I really love variety in coffee, I usually roast 3~4 types of beans every few weeks, then drink them mostly as single origins, swapping from one to the other.

    That means each grind has just a double shot worth of beans in the hopper. Now in my reading, it seems that most machines like a fair wad of beans in the hopper to ensure consistent performance. Well, MY conditions are consistent, just 14~16g in the hopper, all ground in one go.

    My 3 year old Sunbeam EM0480 is starting to die, becoming somewhat inconsistent from grind to grind. What Im after a new grinder that works well with a small volume in the hopper.

    Does anyone have experience with the minimal hopper filling approach? What grinders do a good job under these conditions? Ill pay ~$0.5K dollars or so for anything that will work superbly in this fashion (Im allowed to hope for bargains...).

    Arthur, who cant focus enough to drink the same bean twice in a row


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    Re: Minimalism in coffee grinding

    K3T works well for me and with my super small hopper. I only ever load it with enough for a double shot.

    Works well.


    As to ya EM0480..

    1: Strip and clean

    2: Could be bearings / bushes starting to get some slop

    After that drop me a PM...

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    Re: Minimalism in coffee grinding

    Unless I am doing a few at a time I normally just use the Kyocera hand grinder virtually no waste so no need to purge different beans etc. Even with my DRM running really clean at 2-2.3g of waste grinds left behind I still prefer the silence :)

    Unless you can find one that sweeps really clean in that price range too then doserless makes sense for knocking or sweeping the grinds left behind out to change beans.

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    I can also recommend the Hario hand grinder from thingscoffee. *

    No wastage, everything gets used.

    Plus two minutes of winding the crank makes you feel youre doing your bit to save the world, and you can call yourself and EcoCoffeeSnob ;D

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    @AngerManagement: *I had troubles, so I did the strip & clean, no change. I havent the foggiest notion on how to look at bearings.

    In actual fact, I want to get a better grinder, there was always some consistency of grind issue, how much of it is the grinder, how much the small amount of beans in the hopper, I dont know. It just got worse recently, and is my excuse to upgrade. Dont tell my wife!

    The review of the K3T at http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1163235531 is quite favourable, your info about it being consistent with small doses is exactly what Im after. Thanks, its now on my potential list.

    @beanflying and @SniffCoffee: The minimalism in the title refers to the amount of beans tossed in the hopper, not the grinder style. I like your suggestions though, I had never thought of a hand grinder being accurate, but unfortunately in the morning I am a spastic, and find it hard to put all the beans in the hopper, let alone doing something coordinated, like hand grinding. For larger coffee making sessions (later in the day) *would be it be *ahem* a real grind?

    Arthur, whose wife does actually want more consistent coffees on Sat & Sun morns, and doesnt care what I do to get them

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    Re: Minimalism in coffee grinding

    Quote Originally Posted by 0D05010E040512600 link=1273498072/4#4 date=1273581082
    @AngerManagement: *I had troubles, so I did the strip & clean, no change. I havent the foggiest notion on how to look at bearings.

    In actual fact, I want to get a better grinder, there was always some consistency of grind issue, how much of it is the grinder, how much the small amount of beans in the hopper, I dont know. It just got worse recently, and is my excuse to upgrade. Dont tell my wife!

    @beanflying and @SniffCoffee: The minimalism in the title refers to the amount of beans tossed in the hopper, not the grinder style. I like your suggestions though, I had never thought of a hand grinder being accurate, but unfortunately in the morning I am a spastic, and find it hard to put all the beans in the hopper, let alone doing something coordinated, like hand grinding. For larger coffee making sessions (later in the day) *would be it be *ahem* a real grind?

    Arthur, whose wife does actually want more consistent coffees on Sat & Sun morns, and doesnt care what I do to get them
    Man oh man... *Way back, way back in time.. *err is that not an old song *;D

    There were lots of posts as to issues with the first of the EM0480 grinders..

    Fix those dreaded *(Key words I think)

    Some used plastics and some even turned up wooden sleeves as well as sticky tape; to fix the problem/s.


    Desperation act only... Now get ya self a K3T on order and then pull the EM0480 down and with bits all over the table... Look at ya wife with those doe like eyes... A few butterfly kisses and say..

    Sorry darling... Looks like it has to go and do a detox with Anger up in QLD *::) *If it is that bad, we may never see 0480 again *:( :(

    Then smile the next afternoon when the K3 T arrives...



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    Re: Minimalism in coffee grinding

    @AngerManagement: Just checking, by K3T, do you mean a Compak K3 Touch?

    The Wife is a smart woman, if I try to bamboozle her, she will see through my ruse in a flash. However, if the coffee quality then goes up, she will promptly tut tut in sympathy over my distraught expression at having to replace a dismembered, "this grinder is kaput", machine...

    Sometimes, there are win win situations.

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    Re: Minimalism in coffee grinding

    Quote Originally Posted by 3B333738323324560 link=1273498072/6#6 date=1273585265
    @AngerManagement: Just checking, by K3T, do you mean a Compak K3 Touch?

    YES...

    I use a *cut down plastic bottle as my hopper... *I did post in the grinder section some time ago and it may also have been along side my MISS BFC pics...


    I load up for a double at most, but the bottle will also allow for up to say 5 or 6 doubles at MAX.


    If ya get one of the newer ones... Talk Coffee posted some where... *I understand they have changed the grind on demand *switch and of course the mini hopper by default.. Both PLUS moves in my opinion (for what its worth).

    Got to see if I can quickly re wire my K3 T unit... *Grind on demand Vs timed = Only ever use Grind on demand.

    The Wife is a smart woman, if I try to bamboozle her, she will see through my ruse in a flash. However, if the coffee quality then goes up, she will promptly tut tut in sympathy over my distraught expression at having to replace a dismembered, "this grinder is kaput", machine...

    Sometimes, there are win win situations.
    Ya sure she is just not smarter and playing you; such that you feel you have had a win ;)

    A caring and considerate wife/partner :-*

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    Re: Minimalism in coffee grinding

    Thanks AM for your help, I did finally buy the Compak K3 Touch (= K3T) grinder.

    The main hassle was the grinder settings are almost impossible to see. That was simply fixed with a small application of whiteout to highlight the markings.

    I find it very consistent grind to grind. Between 1 mark and the next, I get a ~10 sec change in extraction time. After one go at grinding a new bean, I find it very easy to get a nice ~25 sec pour on the second (or at most) the third grind.

    Ive had this grinder for about three months, and I have no regrets, and have no urges to upgrade. An excellent grinder!



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