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    Where to start, grinder advice

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    I am new to the coffee game and I have tried to read about the different grinders and I am going a bit gaga.

    I think I would like a doserless (not too many coffees usually made at once) and not too big. Are doserless OK for a newby??

    I have just bought a Silvia and would like a reasonable grinder. Maybe around the $400 mark. I guess that is something like the Rocky. How does the Lelit PL53 rate, *or I noticed a MACAP M4 for a bit more (second hand) is it worth the wait??

    Any other suggestions would be great...

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Easy answer. Stretch the budget a tiny bit and get a compak k3 touch. Some sponsors were doing a good deal on these, speak with chris from talk coffee.

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Kezz what brewing method are you using - espresso machine, plunger, etc? If an espresso machine, what type and any plans for future upgrades?

    The K3T is indeed an excellent choice, perhaps the best value grinder around.

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 7372786B75706A190 link=1274015269/2#2 date=1274027127
    Kezz what brewing method are you using - espresso machine, plunger, etc?If an espresso machine, *
    Quote Originally Posted by 7C697872756D190 link=1274015269/0#0 date=1274015269
    I have just bought a Silvia and would like a reasonable grinder. Maybe around the $400 mark.
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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Doh! *KK note it was 2:25am when I posted.

    In that case Id definitely try to stretch out to the K3T.

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    I expect that Ill do mainly espresso as I have a plunger I havent used for some time, but I never say never. If I had a group of friends over, I imagine that might be something I would do.

    This is likely to be the only grinder I would buy so it would need to be something I can hang on to for a while and maybe a bit versatile.

    Is a doserless easy enough to use for a first timer?? Also, since I have a young family and a bad habit of having a coffee in the wee hours of the morning I would like something fairly quiet.

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Also, I might be interested in upgrading in the future. I would really just like to get comfortable with making my own decent coffees and possibly making a more educated decision down the track.

    I do wonder though, that since I make coffees at odd times would it be better with a doser model that I could grind b4 normal bed time so that I can then have a coffee without waking the house up??

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 0411000A0D15610 link=1274015269/6#6 date=1274057088
    I do wonder though, that since I make coffees at odd times would it be better with a doser model that I could grind b4 normal bed time so that I can then have a coffee without waking the house up??
    :o :o :o and then it will be pre-staled when you wake

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 7164757F7860140 link=1274015269/6#6 date=1274057088
    that I could grind b4 normal bed time so that I can then have a coffee without waking the house up??
    Nooooo dont do it. Ground coffee more than a few minutes old is no where near its best for espresso. The courser ground for Plunger holds up a little better but even then fresh is best.

    Apart from buying an electric grinder if noise is a factor in the mornings grab either a Kyocera or a Hario hand grinder also makes for a great travel grinder too.

    As to the electric grinder if you buy a rocky now and are looking at upgrading say the Silvia then you will also most likely need/want to upgrade the grinder as well. Stretch the grinder budget this time and avoid upgrading both next time would make sense :)

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 7F6A7B71766E1A0 link=1274015269/6#6 date=1274057088
    I do wonder though, that since I make coffees at odd times would it be better with a doser model that I could grind b4 normal bed time so that I can then have a coffee without waking the house up??
    Bugger em, freshly ground beans are important, wake em up. ;D

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    I love your priorities... ;) Im sure the kids would appreciate knowing where they stand in the scheme of things. :D

    I notice that second hand Rockys seem to hold their value if looked after. Is this a reasonable option? As it seems a good tamper is also money well spent.

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 4A5F4E44435B2F0 link=1274015269/10#10 date=1274059709
    I notice that second hand Rockys seem to hold their value if looked after. Is this a reasonable option?
    I had a Silvia/Rocky for many years Kezz, excellent combination.
    Yes Rocky grinders do hold their value as does the Silvia, provided of course they have been well maintained, not a difficult thing to do. :)

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    If the money is only a matter of waiting then the best grinder you can wait for is the way to go! The Macap M4 is a very good grinder.

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 14213634043C213E323F37530 link=1274015269/12#12 date=1274092248
    If the money is only a matter of waiting then the best grinder you can wait for is the way to go! The Macap M4 is a very good grinder.
    I guess thats the words everyone comes back to. "The best grinder you can afford."

    But "the best" seems so personal in the end and how much can I really afford?? Its what suits you I suppose.

    I have noticed that I can get a MACAP M4(second hand) or a Compak K3T for similar money. I have read some comparisons with the Compak K3 Elite but was wondering if anyone has had experience with these two.

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 0510010B0C14600 link=1274015269/13#13 date=1274102091
    I have noticed that I can get a MACAP M4(second hand) or a Compak K3T for similar money. I have read some comparisons with the Compak K3 Elite but was wondering if anyone has had experience with these two.
    I have owned the Macap M4D electronic / doser-less model
    Its a great grinder

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    Grinder? Whats the difference?

    Hi again peeps,

    Sunbeam EM0450 vs Rancilio Rocky

    Besides being conical burr and both having multiple grind settings whats the difference going to be in terms of the end product (the coffee).

    I realise that the Rocky would cost more because of material and componentry used. Though beside this why the price difference?

    Ill probably only be making 10-15 coffees a week. And Im thinking of getting a Cuadra or Isomac Millennium machine.

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    Re: Grinder? Whats the difference?

    Best bet to use the search function as there are plenty of threads on each.

    Also, the grinder review thread: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1163235531

    With grinders, you gets what you pays for ;)

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    I had a cheap grinder. I bought a better machine, it couldnt cope.
    I now totally agree with the "spend more on a good grinder" approach (we all learn from experience).

    I went for the Eureka Mignon over the K3 Touch for doserless, because of size constraints. Id bet theyd both do the job.

    Matt

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    Re: Where to start, grinder advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 5A56434368545B525A370 link=1274015269/17#17 date=1277814838
    I had a cheap grinder. I bought a better machine, it couldnt cope.
    I now totally agree with the "spend more on a good grinder" approach (we all learn from experience).

    I went for the Eureka Mignon over the K3 Touch for doserless, because of size constraints. Id bet theyd both do the job.

    Matt
    Thanks for your reply. :)



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