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    Hario set, machine not up to the job??

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    Hi, Im pretty new to this and have recently bought a hario hand grinder to go with my presso and Breville 800. I have been setting the hario and have found that moving upwards in granularity from choking my machine with too fine grounds - the next setting seems too coarse as Im getting my double pretty quick.

    Should I just be aiming to extract 60ml for a double or is there also a timeframe I should be extracting this double in ie 40sec etc...I get my machine is no prosumer but its what I got till I can make it break as an excuse to move upwards.. cheers.

    Also - for home machines of lesser quality - should I reduce tamp pressure maybe?

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    Re: Hario set, machine not up to the job??

    Lots of things to consider here but the first thoughts are to relax and make sure you change only one variable at a time then look taste and tweak as required. Make several changes at a time will not help you improve as fast.

    With the Kyocera I have it has the same stepped notches as your Hario but I find that normally this is not to much of a problem but I agree a smaller step would be nicer. Some different beans still take 2 clicks in or out compared to each other.

    First question for you are you using the pressurised baskets on your 800 or have you thrown it in the bin where it belongs? Adjusting grind and Tamp pressure to some degree with pressurised baskets does nothing much to influence the shots. To fine a grind on a pressurised basket will just get messy and sloppy and still taste ordinary to course will still get you fake muck in a cup :P

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    Re: Hario set, machine not up to the job??

    Right - The presso basket does fit the 800 handle so will try tonight. Cheers

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    Re: Hario set, machine not up to the job??

    Beanflying - you seem to prefer the lever system - which I too would love to get as my next setup - Canyou suggest a prosumer single group lever I should aspire to - Cheers

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    Re: Hario set, machine not up to the job??

    Sounds like a plan with the Presso basket for a test too :)

    Prosumer and levers to look at New are fairly limited in choices so a search of Trademe in NZ might be worth it to keep an eye out for older single group commercial ones.

    The Pavoni (for 1 or 2 at a time I love mine) or Gaggia levers are not really Prosumer and the Elektra is over priced for what it is unless you can get a good second hand one for a decent price.

    A good one to consider is the PV Lusso http://sorrentinacoffee.myshopify.co...classic-design great value for money and even the 2 group has a nice small footprint for the bench.



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