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    sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Was about to try out my latest roast and thought id give my grinder a clean first. Took it apart right down to the bottom burr making sure not to losoe the shims, cleaned, reassembled. Reset the grind setting to 19 which is where it usually is. Seems high but thats where it grinds best. Set it going and the grind was coming out like coarse beach sand. Wound it down to about 12 still no good. Was thinking my roast was no good this time tossed them out and went and got some beans from my local. Set grind back to 19 still the same. In desperion wound it down to 5 then 3 and its almost right. What have I done? All the shims went back in, and this is what I normaly do to clean anyway and every time its been fine. Any clues? I cant wind the setting back much more
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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Quote Originally Posted by 14292423343205460 link=1278506248/0#0 date=1278506248
    Any clues?
    YA... Something you did.. OR undid..

    The only way it can get courser is for a shim to be left out and or teh top burr carrier to be put in incorrect.


    PS. NEVER wind to where you last had it set... Always start with teh burrs not touching and turn by hand to make sure or at least only pulse and then start adjusting and pulsing..

    Had to fix one teh other day... Burrs were touching at 20... It looked like, they used a cheep washer from Crazy Clarks... About 10 time thicker than you would want..




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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Well!! Got me stuffed. Top carrier can only go two ways. I took 3 shims out and put three back. Just took it apart and had another look. Maybe I have lost a shim, thats all it can be I guess.

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Quote Originally Posted by 734E4344535562210 link=1278506248/0#0 date=1278506248
    Any clues?
    To state the bleedin obvious, something hasnt gone back together the way it was before it was pulled apart.

    Just because youve done it before doesnt mean you didnt do something different this time.

    I havent heard of one with 4 shims.

    According to the Sunbeam Calibration Guide, one spacer is approximately 7 clicks on the dial.
    That would mean youve lost 2.
    Not likely I should think.

    Something else is wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5865686F787E490A0 link=1278506248/2#2 date=1278510352
    Top carrier can only go two ways.
    I thought it only went one way.
    Should I assume youve tried it "both" ways?

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Thanks guys . Not sure what I could have done different. The top carrier can be rotated 180 deg although you wouldnt think that would make any differnce unless its bedded in in one particular way and surley I couldnt have been lucky enough to have put the carrier back in the same way every other time. I did say that I took out three shims when in actual fact it was two, but when I pulled it down again to see if I had put both back in there were three which i`m guessing were there all the time I reckon two may have been stuck together and if for some reason and god only how I picked up another one then the grind would have went the other way I assume.

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please


    Quote Originally Posted by 477B667D777661747C77130 link=1278506248/3#3 date=1278512735
    RobertC wrote on Yesterday at 22:37:
    Any clues?

    To state the bleedin obvious, something hasnt gone back together the way it was before it was pulled apart.

    Just because youve done it before doesnt mean you didnt do something different this time.
    AND

    Quote Originally Posted by 417C7176616750130 link=1278506248/4#4 date=1278536284
    Thanks guys . Not sure what I could have done different. The top carrier can be rotated 180 deg *although you wouldnt think that would make any differnce unless
    So what is teh status..

    AND yes there is a correct way for the carrier to go in... Do not ever assume other wise..

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    From memory (Ive sold mine now) theres an arrow on the top burr carrier that has to line up with one on the body, so it should only go one way.
    Trouble is the white arrow wears off.
    See if you can spot its remains and line them up.
    Then make new marks that wont come off.

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Ya..

    I have one here and You can seat teh top burr either after the Upper body has been locked in OR before teh upper body has been put on and locked in.

    I then quickly wound down and there does seem to be a difference in hight of teh burr carrier when wound down.

    Am I going to investigate further or get a hight gauge and or verniers out and make a guess that the diff is about 10 or 14 clicks..

    Nope... Am I going to paint white dots on it... Nope

    I adjust and use as required ;)

    Number are nothing; same as on teh MaCap 5M, Compac K6 or Eureka Mignon.

    Ya pull them apart... Things change and never exactly at the same spot... It about understanding what a Click or a 2mm movement does that is the important bit.




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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Quote Originally Posted by 745B52504778545B54525058505B41350 link=1278506248/7#7 date=1278555167
    I have one here and You can seat the top burr either after the Upper body has been locked in OR before the upper body has been put on and locked in.
    From the Sunbeam 0480 Calibration Guide:
    Step 2
    To remove the top burr turn the grind
    adjustment collar in an anti-clockwise
    direction until it stops, see figure 2.
    Note: The top burr can only be removed
    when graphic arrow on the grind adjustment
    collar is aligned with the arrow on the motor
    base.

    Step 3
    Press and hold down the “UNLOCK” button at
    the rear of the motor base and with the other
    hand turn the grind adjustment collar anticlockwise
    until the graphic arrow on the collar is
    aligned with the arrow on the motor base, see
    figure 3.


    Step 4
    Lift out the top burr from the grind adjustment
    collar using the handle, see figure 4.

    Step 8

    For assembly repeat the above
    steps in reverse order.



    In other words, its meant to come out AND go in at one particular point.

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Fond a mark on the carrier but one on the body has worn off. Took it out and turned it 180 deg and there is (I think) less gap between the burrs when its wound down to zero. No time to grind now have to go back to work, but will try tonight. Kepp you posted.

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Let me know because mine has similar problems, i have to grind on notch 2 now instead of 12. But sometimes i need to go finer and when i set it to 1 it comes out like powder.

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Sure will

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Well this is the deal guys. Have turned the top burr around. Tried it on 2 still not fine enough. Turned it 180deg ground at 2 again still the same deal. Not sure what I have done. Thinking I should add another shim this may solve the problem but its not giving me answers as to what has caused this in the first place

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    The latest news. The good people at Sunbeam have sent me some shims. Put one in, so I now have 4. Bit of a play around and setting 8 seems to be a happy medium, a far cry from the origional setting of 18-20. Its solved my problem but I still have no idea of what went wrong to start with. I`m still open to suggestions. Thanks fo all your advise.

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Did you actually take the top burr out of the carrier? I know when I did it seemed to push in a tiny tiny bit deeper, which cost me about 5 notches. AM is right, the numbers mean nothing, especially when people are adding/removing spacer washers. I totally understand your frustration tho, especially if you had bean brands and notch numbers to memory.

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Glad i found this thread and the one on the EM0450 not grinding fine enough. I had my EM0480 set to zero, and was producing what i thought were good shots until i got a new Gee machine and realised the grind was way too coarse. :o
    I took my EM0480 apart, tightened up the screws, took out the two shims under the bottom burr, whacked in a washer from the back shed instead (about equal to 3 shims, by guesstimate) and am now producing a much finer grind (and better shot) on number mark 13.
    Happy days, i just wish it came like that out of the box! ;D

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Quote Originally Posted by 54717E47100 link=1278506248/15#15 date=1296810708
    Glad i found this thread and the one on the EM0450 not grinding fine enough. I had my EM0480 set to zero, and was producing what i thought were good shots until i got a new Gee machine and realised the grind was way too coarse. *:o
    I took my EM0480 apart, tightened up the screws, took out the two shims under the bottom burr, whacked in a washer from the back shed instead (about equal to 3 shims, by guesstimate) and am now producing a much finer grind (and better shot) on number mark 13.
    Happy days, i just wish it came like that out of the box! *;D
    it now does come with the three shims under the bottom burr.

    i have needed to remove two of them though to get a good consistent grind. Apon investigation at the local white good stores i have noticed that there is a difference in the top burr location by up to 0.5mm. i think this grinder might just need a bit of calibration before use.

    cheers forrie

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    Re: sunbeam EM 0480 help please

    Hello everyone, first time poster. I just bought my EM0480 today and had the exact same problem so this could have been what happened.

    Tested it for the first time, was a little surprised that I wouldnt get any grounds from setting 15 backwards.. Took it apart, replaced the top housing incorrectly, and all of a sudden at notch 1-2, I would get very course grind.

    Realised I put the housing back in without aligning the arrows.. Who would have thought you could put it in 2 ways!



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