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    upgrade from s/beam 480 - eureka mignon, or.........?

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Ok, ive had enough of the Sunbeam (static, uneven grind, retention). ive been eyeing the Eureka, but still have questions.
    Is this a decent upgrade - Or are there still compromises.
    What other grinders stack up against the Mignon for around the same price. Ive read recent discussions re the mignon, K3, rocky. But dont know what price each grinder is currently available for (CS sponsors deals?)

    All advice/comments/recommendations greatly appreciated.

    Forgot to mention, current machine Breville Ikon unpress basket looking to upgrade also in the next 6 -12months. Prefer not to upgrade both at once.

    cheers
    Dave





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    Re: upgrade from s/beam 480 - eureka mignon, or.........?

    Depends on your budget limitations and type of grinder.

    The Mignon and Rocky can be compared, they both use 50mm plates. The method of adjustment of the mIgnon is superior to that of the rocky. But at the relative RRPs it costs $100.00 more than the rocky. Is it worth $100.00 more at RRP ? I think so, but you mightnt.

    The K3 has from memory 58 mm plates and thefore competes with Mini mazzer and Macap M4 rather than the above 2. So its in a different "class".

    Is there a real difference in the quality of grinds between a 50 mm grinder and a 58 mm grinder? Is the extra price tag justified?

    Perhaps that will be the subject of a future test at my place!

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    Re: upgrade from s/beam 480 - eureka mignon, or.........?

    should have stated, budget $500.

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    Re: upgrade from s/beam 480 - eureka mignon, or.........?

    Aha, then you might need to Rocky and roll, because I doubt it will be possible to get the others at that low a price especially when you consider the addition of freight.

    I would consider budgeting a little higher.

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    Re: upgrade from s/beam 480 - eureka mignon, or.........?

    Hello nBC,

    You are achingly close to K3T buy price....

    Why not have a scrounge in the kids money box [smiley=evil.gif]

    Youre welcome to call if I can assist.

    Chris

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    Re: upgrade from s/beam 480 - eureka mignon, or.........?

    ok. Thanks Attilio and Chris. Im still trying to get my head around whether spending $450-$550 on a grinder is a worthy upgrade from the Sunbeam. And i fully appreciate that one persons opinion is quite different to the next. I guess my initial reason for considering the mignon in the first place was the UK 4 way review posted some time back. *So if the review was flawed or todays machines are different then maybe its back to square one. :-[ *Not to mention wondering will i just go through this all again in another couple of years. :-/ *In all honesty im now wondering whether i should wait a while then consider the mazzer, compak, etc.
    Not knowing how to ask the right questions -is there a link between money spent on a machine to approx money to spend on a grinder (for idiots like myself ;D)? Noting i intend to upgrade my machine later.

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    Re: upgrade from s/beam 480 - eureka mignon, or.........?

    Dammed if ya do and dammed if you dont.

    A good grinder is a key component.

    Problem - *The issue is to define Good *;)


    That comes back to fit for purpose and what you Want / Expect the grinder to do..

    So make a list and then revisit what you feel is critical..

    Now many here will shudder and groan... But there is a difference between Shop use and Home use and what is important... All to often we see advice that is suitable for a shop being presented to a home user and it is just over the top..

    A: *Space / Size / Foot print
    B: *Doser or Less
    C: *Step or Step less
    D: *Ability to clean
    E: * Mess or not
    F: * Looks
    G: *????
    H: *????


    A: Forget about the issue 50 or 54 or 63 *or 80 mm burs and motor speed unless you looking at commercial type throughput etc where volume out and consistency of the grinds is *absolute critical... (Remember Angular velocity etc as all, is not what it may at first, seem)

    OR

    B: IF your doing lots of high level cupping and want *to swap from a pour over to a drip to an espresso or Turkish a few times a day.. *And if ya that big a user, get 5 different grinders so that you do not cross contaminate... *

    C: One size wil not fit all and thus it is critical to identify your REAL needs not just Bling and PEER pressure.

    I like the eureka *for its size and quality.... AND price... *Performs the best for me "in the home" out of a K6 Silent, Rocky, MaCap M5, K3 T, EM0480, KG100 and a few others that shall remain nameless......

    Is it perfect NO..... *But the only other grinder that I might consider is the Vario Grinder; but have yet had the chance to try it...

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    Re: upgrade from s/beam 480 - eureka mignon, or.........?

    Gday Dave... :)

    Dont know where you live and your proximity to one or more of our Site Sponsors, but you will be MUCH better served if you could make your way to said premises and physically make hands-on comparisons with the various grinders that may fall within your budget. To be quite honest, anything from an Iberital Challenge ($300-ish) and up is going to do a great job within a home environment and only you can decide which of the many grinders available is going to suit your needs to a T.

    I started my coffee journey with a Lux grinder, that happens to use a similar burr-set to the Iberital Challenge and apart from the noise, it did a great job and allowed me to produce great espresso from my (then) humble espresso kit.

    On the other side of the debate, is the possibility of picking up a used commercial grinder in good condition, that maybe only requires some elbow grease and a set of new burrs to make it perform as new. There are a myriad number of choices but in the end, the best thing is get as much hands-on practice with a few demo machines, to see what youre going to be able to live with... ::)

    All the best ;)

    Mal.

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    Re: upgrade from s/beam 480 - eureka mignon, or.........?

    I took the leap from the 0480 to the K3t...

    I see why everyone insists on the importance of a good grinder... Its worth every penny extra :) from the significantly more solid build, to the superior grind, and awesome adjustability



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