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    Each step in adjustment on the BCG800 has a noticeable difference in the pour rate but not a major one like the em0480. *I would say it is similar to the Rocky in its differnce between settings but am happy to be told otherwise. *

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3E373D3C3320363D223F520 link=1288871951/211#211 date=1296847580
    So I ask: How is possible to dial in such a grinder to espresso, using different blends, with only 8 or 10 steps? How is going the experience of the owners with such limiting factor?

    Any grinder with a stepped adjustment will only have a few practical grind settings in its unique espresso range. 3-4 would be plenty on most I would think. *I pretty much only used two different settings on my em0480, and made the difference with dose and tamp because of the big difference in grind each adjustment made.

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    3-4?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6B647C6D7C797C1D0 link=1288871951/215#215 date=1296903594
    3-4?!
    For espresso, on a grinder with stepped adjustment, 3-4 settings would be enough maybe?! Say on a Rocky?! How many settings would you be on the suitable espresso range for?! More or less?!

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    Many more, IMO.
    Espresso can taste radically different depending on dose and grind even if the drink volume and brewing time is the same.

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    My breville bes860 with build in grinder has 16 or so steps. Now its only suitable for espresso, so it must only move very slightly with each step. I find that i need to change from setting 5, right up to 15 depending on the beans/age/roast. Even changing the grind by one step makes a very noticeable difference in the pour and in the cup.

    I think the more steps the better, as i try to keep my dose and tamp consistant and only vary the grind. 3 or 4 is nowhere near enough imo.

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    I wasnt even considering roast age in my previous post, a very good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7F706879686D68090 link=1288871951/217#217 date=1296904945
    Espresso can taste radically different depending on dose and grind even if the drink volume and brewing time is the same.
    It certainly can thats why I said 3-4. That would allow for major variables in dose, tamp, beans and whatever else on a stepped grinder.

    And a stepless grinder would allow the user to explore the infinite inbetween.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7F706879686D68090 link=1288871951/217#217 date=1296904945
    Many more, IMO.
    Like 8 - 10? Even with a huge dose, tamp difference, that would surely put you in either gusher or choker territory wouldnt it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 38392C393F35385C0 link=1288871951/218#218 date=1296905698
    5, right up to 15 depending
    I dont know what sort of grinder is in that machine but on a em0480 10 steps will put you way out range on either side.


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    Re: Are Too Many Steps Never Enough....

    Not all grinders are created equal.
    I have about 30 steps that fit into an espresso range - and I use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4B4A5F4A4C464B2F0 link=1288871951/218#218 date=1296905698
    as i try to keep my dose and tamp consistant and only vary the grind.
    I think thats what most do. If the coffee is few weeks old ill go a little finer, 1 or 2 steps. If the roast is fresh or Im grinding Harrar or something I go a little coarser. One or two steps is plenty. The sweet spot for espresso range, with a consistent dose and tamp, on a stepped grinder, is only a few steps, in my experience. Anything outside that would allow for variables in dose and tamp.

    This is why people need stepless when getting into espresso isnt it? Because otherwise you are limited to a major adjustment with each step. So often the perfect grind is somewhere between adjsutments on stepped grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 212E3627363336570 link=1288871951/222#222 date=1296907004
    Not all grinders are created equal.
    I have about 30 steps that fit into an espresso range - and I use them.
    What grinder are you using?

    Its just that my experience with stepped grinders is vastly different. :o

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    I have a Faema A6... its 15 years old. 64mm flat burr.
    Id rarely go all the way up to the end range, but with really fresh coffee and updosing, sure. The small adjustments are valuable in getting a pour right, IME/O. ;)

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    I guess on the smaller domestic stepped grinders the difference in grind with each adjustment is much more than the more commercial style stepped models. *This would make sense.

    But in answer to leonardopms question -
    Quote Originally Posted by 6C656F6E6172646F706D000 link=1288871951/211#211 date=1296847580
    How is possible to dial in such a grinder to espresso, using different blends, with only 8 or 10 steps? How is going the experience of the owners with such limiting factor?
    It is not a limiting factor at all. Its only really the difference between settings that is limiting, not the range, like most stepped grinders.




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