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    Mahlkonig Vario and Sunbeam EM6910

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    Hey guys,
    Ive been considering an upgrade from the EM0480 and read that the Vario is an excellent choice.

    The problem I seem to be having is that my shots run well, but the taste in the cup just seems to be lacking.
    I wouldnt call them sink shots, its just that theyre missing the WOW which I would normally get from the cafe where I purchase the beans.
    Im hoping that a grinder upgrade will remedy this?

    This would be paired up with my Sunbeam EM6910, as I have no issues with the machine,
    I was just wondering whether anyone has tried this combo?

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario and Sunbeam EM6910

    Gday Jason... :)

    Before committing to the Mahlkonig, have you read through the thread on Brevilles new BCG800? Its compared directly with the Vario and comes out ahead. Heres the BCG800 thread.... http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1288871951

    All the best ;)
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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario and Sunbeam EM6910

    Im not sure a useful comparison has been done between the Vario and the Breville, just based on the information in the referenced thread, particularly as Jayson is interested in flavour profile not price & feature/function list.

    I can say that the results from the Vario are very good, but I cant say that they are better than the Breville as I havent tried it (but am very keen to). I doubt the Vario would be twice as good as the Breville (i.e. for the money), but as with anything, once you reach a certain price point returns are diminishing.

    On the Vario specifically, it does produce very good grind quality, but the grind adjustment is a bit flimsy. Once you get to know the grinder though it is easy to get consistent results, even if you are regularly moving from espresso to plunger grind (and anything in between).

    The Vario also has an adjustable zero (although it isnt in the manual), so you can set it up easily without shims etc.

    Simon

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario and Sunbeam EM6910

    Quote Originally Posted by 424544525258310 link=1298893782/2#2 date=1298944575
    Im not sure a useful comparison has been done between the Vario and the Breville, just based on the information in the referenced thread
    He can certainly ask around in that thread though, which was my only reason for linking to it... ;)

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario and Sunbeam EM6910

    Thanks for the responses guys, and thanks for the link Mal.
    Ive had a read through, and the Breville seems quite impressive, however I have bitten the bullet and placed an order with Di Bartoli for the Vario.

    Simon, which grinder did you start off with before upgrading to the Vario?
    Did you experience and notable improvement in your espresso?

    Thanks,
    Jayson

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario and Sunbeam EM6910

    Quote Originally Posted by 4A4159534F4E4C454F57200 link=1298893782/4#4 date=1298970835
    Thanks for the responses guys, and thanks for the link Mal.
    Ive had a read through, and the Breville seems quite impressive, however I have bitten the bullet and placed an order with Di Bartoli for the Vario.

    Simon, which grinder did you start off with before upgrading to the Vario?
    Did you experience and notable improvement in your espresso?

    Thanks,
    Jayson
    I started with a Breville BGC450 (I think that is the right part number), then got a Sunbeam EM0480 which was a decent improvement. From there I had two Macap M4s (first a doser, then an M4C) which were a big step up, however they had high grind retention and were generally big and messy (for home).

    Then it was the Vario, which from my experience grinds as well as the Macap, but is cleaner and has much less retention.

    As I mentioned in an earlier post the Vario can be a bit finicky to adjust, but once you get a feel for it then it is easy to get consistently good pours.

    I have used mine fairly heavily (~60 doubles a week) over the last 6 months and it hasnt missed a beat. Worthwhile to get some Grindz for cleaning though as it is a bit hard to pull the top burr out for regular cleaning. It can be done, but you need to make sure the surfaces are very clean before putting it back in or your settings change.

    Latest versions are pretty well setup out of the factory, but if you find the fine setting isnt fine enough have a look on Google, there is a video showing the adjustment (very easy).

    All in all an excellent grinder, I am sure you will like it.

    Simon



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