well done, this is a good grinder despite its messiness...
i bought a second hand cunill grinder from a local roaster
what a step up from my little breville!
its been working faithfully ever since- i couldnt recommend it highly enough (certainly havent been stressed by the talk of static caused by the plastic doser)
yeah the looks are a bit industrial- but sometimes form follows function is ok?- gave my sons something to laugh at- they called it the dark tower
well done, this is a good grinder despite its messiness...
so...why is it messy?
Grinds tend to stick to the plastic of the doser (fixed by giving it a scrub with some soapy water). Also grinds tend to somehow get over most flat surfaces. Again nothing a bit of a clean up with a chux wont fix.
Oh yeah, regarding the uggliness (or beauty in the eye of the beholder I say) .... the bean holder can be replaced. I replaced mine with a small plastic bottle inverted, with the bottom cut off. I used a vitamin bottle. Holds about 4 shots worth of beans.
Nice idea Belinda, that would help reduce its footprint too as I could get it closer to the corner on the bench. hmmm.
Its a great grinder, I have used it for a couple of years ( spose its had 100kg of beans through it ) without loosing a beat.
Yeah its a little messy and pretty noisy but it is a real workhorse that has easy adjustment and works a treat.
Has anyone been able to compare this machines performance with other grinders?
Cunills perform as well as any other commercial grinder, with regard to grind quality. The "steps" in the adjustment, as are good as any of other commercial grinder.
Where they fall down is in the quality of the fittings...eg the build quality of the spider mechanism in the doser, the material that the doser unit is built from, etc. Because of this they can tend to breakdown more often than grinders that have a better standard of build, particularly of treated roughly by their operators,. The area of concern basically then, is the standard of build of the total doser assembly. *
The cheaper models are apparently not well earthed and suffer from static electricity making grinds stick to their bodies, therefore can be messy if not cared for by understanding operators.
They have very basic bodies, but noise ;level is not necessaruly any worse or better than other grinders including those that nmany people rave about in speciual interest forums.
Otherwise, just like any other commercial grinder they grind away for years, and operate well as their orperators will allow them to (ie people that clean, adjust & treat their grinders well, and change the grinding plates as required, will get good life and performance out of a cunill for many years.
Essentially, they are a reasonable, cheap, robust (in the main but not in the doser mechanism) commercial grinder for people not worried about looks or prestige value and who perhaps, are prepared not to be as hard (rough handling) on the equipment as others. Of course, they will also appeal because of their lower (atleast initially on purchase) price.
Some of these sentiments will NOT apply where these commercial grinders are bought & used for domestic purposes, because at home they will never get the same pounding they would receive in a busy cafe and therefore life expetancy of the doser unit doesnt realistically come into it in the domestic instance.
And to set the record straight, this information is the result of years of experience with many of the commonly seen commercial grinders in the marketplace here, and we do not import Cunil and have no association with them.
Fair call FC.
PS: Mine is the doserless "funnel" so I cannot comment on the doser mechanics.
Likewise mine is also doserless. Forgot to mention that.
Yes....the timed dose model.
Except for the issue with static & messiness (depends on the individual...a minor issue for some, unacceptable for others), I personally think this is much better "value" than some doserless grinders costing more than triple the price but having "prestige" value, without losing one iota in corresponding "performance" particularly in the domestic situation.
Wow Andy, has it been that long? *Good to hear it is still performing well!Its a great grinder, I have used it for a couple of years ( spose its had 100kg of beans through it ) without loosing a beat. *
I replaced my Cunill with a Macap M5 and must say that the overall performance difference is minimal. *FCs comments are right on the money - the Macap just does things a little nicer and the difference in quality is definately evident.Has anyone been able to compare this machines performance with other grinders?
I noticed the static, but in the scheme of things, the amount of grinds that stick to the funnel are no more in quantity than those left in and around a doser model so other than those odd stray grinds that seem to break the laws of physics, I fail to see the problem. *:-/
Would I buy either of these grinders again?
DEFINATELY - It would simply come down to what I was prepared to spend at the time. *As simple as that. *8-)
Interesting. Thanks for that, FC. I asked because I used some of the commercial dosered cunills a few jobs ago and didnt like them one bit. Steps were monstrously huge. Maybe this is a different beast.
FWIW, paul haddon has one or two that he has modified to be actuated by a foot pedal. A bit showy, totally unnecessary, probably applicable to any grinder, but nonetheless cool!
This static problem isnt one that is necessarily insolvable, as there are many Anti-Static coatings on the market suitable for coating most plastics and glass, and considered to be food-safe. It is basically an electrically conductive coating that disperses a static charge more or less as quickly as it tries to build up. Might be an option for those owners who need to ameliorate the messiness issue,Originally Posted by Fresh_Coffee link=1155510399/0#10 date=1158807620
Mal, could you say some more about these anti-static coatings? Where would one find them? Do you think they would be suitable for my Sunbeam grinder? I certainly need to "ameliorate the messiness issue.
Best wishes, Russell
Most of the general electronics suppliers like Dick Smith, Jaycar, etc all have Antistatic Coatings of one sort or another. None of them are permanent though (of the ones Ive seen) and must be re-applied when ever their effectiveness starts to wear off. Permanent coatings can also be found usually at places that market clear glass and plastic products and are usually in the form of a thin epoxy resin type substance or dissolved in a solvent that flashes off leaving the inert coating behind, molecularly bonded to the substrate (glass or plastic). This one here gives you an idea of the type of thing I was referring to. And heres some info on one of the more permanent solutions. All the best,