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    K3 touch usage

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    Hi all
    I recently got my hands on a k3 touch, and would love to hear how you go about using it to get the right amount of grind each time, and keeping the minimal amount of grind in the chute.

    Im wanting to use the timed feature, just so i jnow ill get the exqct amount of grind each time. Is the adjustment thing on the bottom accurate? Is it time or went that its adjusting. Whats the best way with getting it right?

    Also, how do you guys go about getting rid of the residue grind in the chute after each use?
    With the rocky, the clicktop was handy in pushing out the grind, is there something similar for the k3t.

    Thanks in advance.


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    Ive only recently began using the timed dial feature. What Id suggest you do instead, is determine your dose using the rice and/or 5 cent test. You can use the search feature to find a lot of info about both of these. And then (prefereably) weigh the correct amount of beans into the hopper for each shot. Grind through until there is nothing left, and brew. What I was doing before I started using the timed feature, was to add a few cups worth of beans to the hopper, and over time I learnt to dose by eye. Also with the help of some dosing tools (see Scottie Callaghans).

    I find the timed feature to be a little irritating sometimes. Sometimes it wont actually start grinding straight away once you press the switch. But then if you press it again, it will deliver two doses... Which can be a pain.

    The small clear chute is spring loaded, I find that flicking this up and down a few times removes most of the retained grinds. Which is enough for me. :) When I want to do a proper clean, its a vaccuum and a toothbrush. :)

    Hope this helps...

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    Thanks for that tip.
    Ill try the 5 cent test and rice.

    So are you finding that the timing function is not that accurate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 785D4B5D320 link=1336276266/2#2 date=1336284940
    Thanks for that tip.
    Ill try the 5 cent test and rice.

    So are you finding that the timing function is not that accurate?
    As i said, I havent used the timing function that much, so cant really comment. So far though, when i dont screw up and press the switc twice it seems to be pretty good... I switched beans today, and required a finer grind. Because the feature is timed, it was a HUGE overdose. So now Im gonna have to fix that...

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    I think its really silly that you press twice for a double. They shouldve just put a switch in for that or something. I only do doubles, so I always press twice. It would annoy me also if I ever did doubles. Also its an extra step for a casual coffee machine user - housemate/partner/whatever - to remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2C272B23352A292A460 link=1336276266/4#4 date=1336300832
    I think its really silly that you press twice for a double. They shouldve just put a switch in for that or something.
    That is why they offer an adjustment knob, so you can extend the length of the grind

    Longest grind setting is well above the length of time required for a double shot setting

    I really dont see this as that big an issue anyway, Ive set mine to fill the basket at 3 taps, Two to fill it to a point, bang down, and I can add the extra to top it off, Works for me. I may waste some, But its about 1 or 2 grams, so its not like Im gonna break the bank over it

    As for getting the grind timing right I find it to be somewhat of a pain, due to the placement of the timer adjustment knob, the fact that it doesnt appear to have any markings to guide you, and the fact that its so fine a knob. But like I said, Ive set mine to a certain point, and Ill likely keep it close to where it is now and not bother too much if I waste beans

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    Quote Originally Posted by 587561737C7D7A73556052756071140 link=1336276266/5#5 date=1336304408
    As for getting the grind timing right I find it to be somewhat of a pain, due to the placement of the timer adjustment knob, the fact that it doesnt appear to have any markings to guide you, and the fact that its so fine a knob. But like I said, Ive set mine to a certain point, and Ill likely keep it close to where it is now and not bother too much if I waste beans
    Mmm. That location really is a pain isnt it? Love for them to fix that in later models... I suppose it is a "set and forget" sort of thing... But still... Ive gotta say, dosing by weight/volume (rather than time) does have its advantages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0326312E237F470 link=1336276266/6#6 date=1336305180
    Mmm. That location really is a pain isnt it? Love for them to fix that in later models... I suppose it is a "set and forget" sort of thing... But still... Ive gotta say, dosing by weight/volume (rather than time) does have its advantages.
    From what I can see, this is the reason why the K3P/T is so cheap, Because of the timer adjustment. Can anyone name another 54mm burr grinder on the market with an adjustable timer on it, at that price? I certainly cannot

    Thought several times about modding it somehow with a digital timer, but figure "why bother? Im only going to set-and-forget it anyway"

    Maybe in the future* ;)

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    Agreed,

    I see the timer of this K3T as being somehting to get you into the ballpark if you choose to use it.

    Theyre good in a small office. Those who dont get it can go a nominal double and skilled users will add on or dose manually.

    Electronic competitors from Mazzer and Compak are double the price.

    As always with grinders, you gets what you pays for! ;)

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    Re: K3 touch usage

    Thanks for your input guys.

    At least now I know what to expect and what not from the timer function.

    This hobby is getting too expensive. Just got the K3t, but the mazzer mini e is looking very good.
    But I must resist

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    Re: K3 touch usage

    Quote Originally Posted by 7E5B4D5B340 link=1336276266/9#9 date=1336345728
    Thanks for your input guys.

    At least now I know what to expect and what not from the timer function.

    This hobby is getting too expensive.* Just got the K3t, but the mazzer mini e is looking very good.*
    But I must resist
    Bear in mind, That even with fancy digital timer, you STILL will not get the right amount by using automatic dosing. This alone puts the digital timers in the why bother basket for my tastes. The mazzer mini-e seems to be more of a side-step from the K3 rather then a step-up in quality.

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    Re: K3 touch usage

    Quote Originally Posted by 634E5A48474641486E5B694E5B4A2F0 link=1336276266/10#10 date=1336353107
    ou STILL will not get the right amount by using automatic dosing. This alone puts the digital timers in the why bother basket for my tastes.
    15 back to back with a client last week on my Robur-E. Identical in pour and on the palate as well.

    I have no reason to expect anything different from the digital mini-e. I wouldnt categorise this as a mere side step. :-?

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    Re: K3 touch usage

    i just got a k3 an ive been eyeballing it then wacking it on the scales getting pretty close without the function, wouldnt it change with every new bean supply anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02373A3D09153930303333560 link=1336276266/11#11 date=1336353562
    15 back to back with a client last week on my Robur-E. Identical in pour and on the palate as well.

    I have no reason to expect anything different from the digital mini-e. I wouldnt categorise this as a mere side step.* :-?
    Sorry, I might not have explained myself properly, Yes, a digital timer is accurate when the grinder is dialed in, With something like a robur, youll be most likely putting enough beans through that dialing in only happens once every bag of beans.

    However, The fun would begin when you adjust the dial-in, (at least, this is how I see it anyway, bear in mind this is a value judgement and in no way is backed up by any sort of personal experience) when youd have to not only adjust the grind-settings, but the timer settings also, On a Robur, not so big a deal, on a mini-e? well, home use I cant see too many people going through 10-30 cups of coffee a day, let alone 100+. By the time the home users dialed in their grinder and time-settings, I can see them having gone through half a kilo of beans (well, thats what Ive done in the past). And thats not even taking into consideration the effect aging has on the beans

    Or I might be just assuming a whole heap of donkey-droppings.

    Either way, the K3t is still really good value* ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 624F5B49464740496F5A684F5A4B2E0 link=1336276266/13#13 date=1336396251
    However, The fun would begin when you adjust the dial-in, (at least, this is how I see it anyway, bear in mind this is a value judgement and in no way is backed up by any sort of personal experience) when youd have to not only adjust the grind-settings, but the timer settings also, On a Robur, not so big a deal, on a mini-e? well, home use I cant see too many people going through 10-30 cups of coffee a day, let alone 100+.
    Not so much in the real world. Day to day adjustments in my experience can be as little as nothing or perhaps 0.1 or 0.2 sec. Grind changes are generally minimal as well when required.

    As alsways, if you get lost, you free dose and set the grind again. Its quick and easy if you understand what youre doing ;)



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