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Thread: Pursuit for a doserless Mini Mazzer.

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    Pursuit for a doserless Mini Mazzer.

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    For a while now Ive been thinking of converting my Mini Mazzer to a dosserless arrangement.

    Ive contacted Mazzer about info and the availability of purchasing the funnel from the electronic version, they replied informing me that the funnel was unavailable as a seperate purchase ???
    They also didnt answer my question can the funnel replace the doser.

    Now has anyone got access to a Mini Mazzer electronic (doserless/funnel) and the standard (fitted with dosser).
    Im located in Bris, so if anyone lives close but with an electronic please drop me a line.
    I want to see if the funnel from the electronic fits the standard mini mazzer..this will make fabrication an easy copy.
    If not time to design one...

    My current thoughts are a funnel like the one of the electronic.

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    All you would need to do is remove the dosser attach the funnel and pop the plastic lid from the dosser on top.

    I put this poll up to see how much interest there is in this upgrade as I probably get a number fabricated.

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    If it would fit the Mazzer Super Jolly Id be interested. Ive been debating making a doserless attachment for mine. I currently have 2 Mazzer Super Jollys, one with a doser and the other with the bulk grind spout. Ive only been using the doser one as it has nice new burrs. The bulk spout ones burrs are shot. Once I have a new set of burrs for it Id planned on making up some kind of doserless attachment for it as 99% of the time I have no need for a doser. This has had a bit of a low priority for me though as I may be trading my Cimbali M52 to the local dealer for a bunch of equipment including some grinders.

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    I voted to convert.

    I use my "doser" as a "catcher", then dose into a plastic container. I then spoon grounds into the portafilter. Not really the real purpose of a doser I know..... but I never keep that many grounds in the doser chamber anyway!

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    I remembered seeing this on coffeegeek. http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/esp...achines/134026 A guy made a spout from a cocktail shaker, using his dremil.

    Nice, but I voted on keeping the doser. I just like to pretend that Im running my own little cafe!

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    I took the easy way out and bought the Mini E... :)



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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    HV_MAN,

    Im interested in the mod, please keep me posted on the outcome of your enquiries.

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    Just thought Id throw in a quick, simple, and cheap mod that I did for my Mazzer Super Jolly. *It took just a couple of minutes of work to do, with nothing more than an exacto knife, a dremel tool, and less than US$4 in parts. *So far it has worked well; it seems to do the job...




    A larger picture and description of the mod can be found at my Flickr site below:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/akatayama/133241695

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    I have just ordered my next consignment of "doserless" Macap M4s (as in Macap M4C) for any one that will be interested.

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    FYI, heres a video I put together (http://youtube.com/watch?v=D_BEnIr07G4) demonstrating the use of the Mazzer mod and use of a (very handy) grain funnel, as well as my complete workflow when paired with a Brewtus I.

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    I dont think its just me but I really cant see the benefit of dozerless. With the super jolly at work compared to my iberital challenge. having a dozer seems a no brainer.

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    Why wouldnt you just buy a Mazzer Super Jolly Deli Grinder - for around $800 same result less "pfing" about.

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    I dont think I can work with doserless grinders. So I voted for "I like my doser". The twacking of the doser handle is innate to me. What would I do with my hands with a doserless??

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    If you guys are really wanting a conversion kit, google "Mazzer Electric Grinder Doser Chute Replacement" and you will find an american equivalent of coffeeparts.com (a CS sponsor).

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes link=1113174197/0#12 date=1178009498
    If you guys are really wanting a conversion kit, google "Mazzer Electric Grinder Doser Chute Replacement" and you will find an american equivalent of coffeeparts.com (a CS sponsor).

    Dunno what all the fuss about doserless is *::)...I hate em and in fact had a mini-e beside my mini manual for a couple of months last year...It ended up being unused and the happiest day was when I saw the back of it...It is much harder to dose accurately with a doserless IMHO and this can lead to inconsistency in shots...The concept of pressing a button and getting a perfect drop of correct grind is just that- a concept...You can blow a kilo of coffee trying to dial in and then the ball game changes when you change coffee anyway....Welcome to an exercise in frustration....

    If I could buy a mini-e for $500 I still wouldnt waste my money...Hate em ;)

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    Re: Persuit for a dosserless Mini Mazzer.

    Maybe we can do a poll on if people bought doserless grinders or doser grinders?

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    Re: Pursuit for a doserless Mini Mazzer.

    As per previous posts, I own a Rocky Doserless and Mazzer Mini - and prefer doserless. Would I actually bother with conversion - doubt it - just cant be bothered. But if I could just swap without fluffing around - no brainer - bring on doserless.

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    Re: Pursuit for a doserless Mini Mazzer.

    I cant see the point of converting a perfectly good doser to doserless...but thats just me. I really like the whole mechanics of the dosing routine. For me the benefits of the doser far outweigh the negatives.

    Actually, tomorrow night my wife has asked me to be barista for up to 50 people *:o...with nothing more than my Giotto and Mini. I hope the three of us are up to the task! (2mcm, heres where we see if the skills we were perfecting the other week at the Sydney Advanced Home Espresso session, have actually been learned *;))

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    I've just taken the plunge on a conversion idea. I've got a super jolly doser and I'd like to go doserless. So I've spent about half an hour on the german amazon.de, translating each step in google translate so I can buy this product:

    WAS 1010130 Fondant- / Likörtrichter 13 cm, einfache Ausführung: Amazon.de: Küche & Haushalt

    Then I created an account with mailboxde.com and shipped it to the German address. From there I guess it'll be a little more to sent it on to Au. Apparently the handle for this funnel snaps off, you can cut the bottom off the funnel and drill a couple of holes leaving you with a nice little doserless mod. When I have a crack in a couple of weeks I'll post some pics! I'm wanting to strip the super jolly and have it painted too.

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    Wow. One from the grave. Exhumed after 8 years!

    Frequently, the best way to convert a doser grinder into a doserless is to sell the doser and buy a new grinder. As for ugly dodads...pass!

    FWIW, it's interesting to review my earlier comments. At that time, I hated the Mazzer mini-e. The Compak K3T followed and it had many of the same shortcomings of the Mazzer. In 8 years and now with a digital upgrade, little has changed with the Mazzer. I believe it's one of the poorest bang for buck doserless grinders on the market. It's completely outclassed by the Macap M4D. As for the Compak, I am still not much of a fan of the touch variant.

    On a positive note, there is now a legion of great doserless options at most price points which do the job and do it very well. It's a long time since I last used a doser- though I still enjoy the theatre.
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    Got the funnel from Germany today so got stuck into my little craft project changing the paddle doser to doserless. Found there was a big hole left by the doser so I cut it up and used it as a back plate. No going back now! Dremel is a great tool, got everything sorted perfectly, I'm really happy and even more lazy. Pics in link

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wzccdsa1b...RBmIbZHHa?dl=0
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    Love your ingenuity 'tt'...

    Are you going to shorten the funnel a little bit at the bottom?
    Might block up annoyingly regularly, if the exit is too tight...

    Mal.
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    Sometimes there's a thin line between love and hate for doserless grinders. I personally find my mini-e easy to use & my routine allows me to be quite consistent with dosing accurately, but the clumps drive me nuts with the vst baskets (as I've nagged about before).

    My Major with a doser on the other hand, zero clumps even before I've 'thwacked' those grind out. I would like it doserless for the look, but I don't think it would save me beans. I've learned to be efficient with both and don't waste more than 1.5 grams, ever (not sure how some users achieve so much retention).

    In saying all that, I appreciate crafty jobs like the custom made funnel simply because it's fun to have a play with tools. For that reason alone it's worth the effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo89 View Post
    In saying all that, I appreciate crafty jobs like the custom made funnel simply because it's fun to have a play with tools. For that reason alone it's worth the effort.
    One must have fun with one's toys otherwise why have them?


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    Yeah, having a good play around was just a fun afternoon really. Had to tell the lady that I'd effed the machine though, she wasn't happy, static is suuuuuch a pain! However, I just saw a YouTube vid where someone clipped a bunch of paper clips over the chute which seemed to stop the static issue. Fingers crossed for the 5c invisible fix! I'll keep you posted.

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    Ok, so I'm pretty happy right now! Have no static whatsoever thanks to the five metal paper clips I made into a screen. Might have to get the soldering iron out and make something a little more advanced that can hook over the two screws either side of the chute though. Then I can clean it out in there if I feel the urge, although I've only ever just purged the grinder for a sec before use which seems ok. So can someone comment on the consistency? Is this considered clumpy?

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0ane59wom...%20pm.jpg?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/5cpbtvjl1r...%20pm.jpg?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ksh6tkb8hy...%20pm.jpg?dl=0

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    Looks to an excellent result tt...

    Wouldn't call that clumping, to be honest.

    If you are going to knock-up another anti-static grid, maybe you could make it such that it can pivot, so that you can swing it aside for sweeping out the discharge chute...

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    Mal, where were you when I was slaving over a hot soldering iron! I've knocked up a new grid. I'll leave the nuts finger ticht for now so I can whip out the grid if I feel like it but let's be clear, I'm going doserless so I can be even more lazy...

    The diameter of the spout is only 20mm but the anti static grid is so good, I don't get a single particle sticking to the funnel. It shoots straight out like crazy, it's perfect! Next I'll strip the grinder and take it to a body shop and get them to give it a spray next to any old dark metallic job they're doing. Fun!

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbb74302ot...%20pm.jpg?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/38hla91tte...%20pm.jpg?dl=0
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    Not bad for $160 total so far! Go miss titled eBay listings, things a beast!

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    Bloody excellent mate...

    You might start getting a few orders from fellow CSers for Doserless Mod Kits....

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    How much do new burrs go for, on the super jolly? Might bung some of those in there, although, it's pushing the $160 up... but a brand new looking $200ish super jolly doserless sounds alright. Is there any advantage to new burrs? More consistency or speed?

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    How do you know that you need them tt?

    A new burr-set may make little difference if the current set are still Ok.
    A new set would probably set you back somewhere around $60-ish, give or take....

    Mal.

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    Ok, this is just getting ridiculous now... So I took your advice mal, but I went totally stupid with it and made this little paper clip wonder!

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/u6d1zjzhv3...%20am.jpg?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/obm02ygtni...%20am.jpg?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/a4sl1z251j...%20am.jpg?dl=0

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    FYI tanethomas life is much better if you include your pictures as attachments to your posts on here. That way they remain available forever, not just until dropbox deletes them or the link to them changes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tanethomas View Post
    Ok, this is just getting ridiculous now... So I took your advice mal, but I went totally stupid with it and made this little paper clip wonder!
    Haha....

    I like it. You could definitely patent that little wonder...

    Mal.

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    My doserless mini.

    I took the screen out and don't really have any issues with clumping.
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