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    ADVICE PLEASE...

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Hey guys and Gals,

    First post but I think youre all great.
    Heres my dilemma: My Maestro grinder is very near the end of his life and I want a replacement. I use a Bialetti, a drip, and most often a press. I never grind super fine at home. I want to buy a grinder that will last a while, cut evenly and most importantly, make great tasting coffee. I dont mind paying a little more for cool features that enhance the "coffee making experience". So a better home grinder is more important than value.
    With that in mind... both for around $200 give or take, the Baratza Virtuoso (Ive always been happy with my Solis) and the Kitchenaid Pro Line Burr Grinder seem like great home picks (Im open to any other recommendations of course).
    This site has been helpful with info on both but I havent found a strict feature for feature or a "VS" comparison yet.
    I spoke to Kyle at Baratza this week and he told me that there are new and improved Virtuosos going through customs right now (and to buy from Amazon because that guarantees it comes from Baratza, other retailers may have stocked up on older models) and they include a host of improvements, notably a rpm reduction to around 450.
    The Kitchenaid model comes with a strong reputation, started as a $300 model and sells many more units. Plus the detailed review of it on this site was most favorable (unless Im mistaken theres only a Baratza add for the Virtuoso posted in detail).
    While Im sure I could do worse than either of these, Im also sure Ive come to the only place where no one will roll their eyes when I say I need more information about this "problem" Im having. So if anyone can tell me why one is superior to the other... Id certainly appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

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    Re: ADVICE PLEASE...

    Hi HFC, and welcome.

    From the models that you have mentioned, it sounds like youre in the US ... maybe youre looking for coffeegeek.com? If its for non-espresso use, the sunbeam grinder looks to be fantastic value ... in Australia!

    Cheers,

    Luca

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    Re: ADVICE PLEASE...

    The Sunbeam works very well for espresso...

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    Re: ADVICE PLEASE...

    All I know is, if I was in the market for a grinder in Australia... a Gaggia MDF for $250 would be my choice (I had put a link to the listing but this place auto-edits E B A Y - so just do a search on there)

    But if your budget doesnt extend that far, you REALLY dont want a dosered grinder or the thought of dealing through someone on EVILBAY.. *sigh* the EM0480 would probably suit you fine. However if you go down that road you might wanna prepare for a bit of initial grind variation (like going from 12 to 2) and having mod the upper burr slightly to compensate.

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    Re: ADVICE PLEASE...

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyNZ link=1160037343/0#3 date=1160296370
    (I had put a link to the listing but this place auto-edits E B A Y
    Well AndyNZ,

    Theres a reason for that :-?..... We have great sponsors supporting this community and it is only fitting that they are protected from white-anting, evilbane posters trying to undermine the great work that they do for us. Since you are not an absolute newbie, I trust you have perused the contents of our posting policy here..... http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1115338528.


    Hi HFC,

    Regarding "which grinder?"..... It all comes down to what you can afford and its targeted use. If it is primarily for espresso, then a high quality "stepless" grinder like any of the Mazzer Minis/Macap M4/5/La Cimbali Cadet, etc would be great. If on the other hand, it is going to be put to a wider variety of grind duties encompassing Plunger, Drip, Pour-over, etc then you might want to consider something that can be quickly changed through a wide range of grind settings..... Probably any of the high quality "stepped" grinders will fall into this category, from the ubiquitous Rocky and up.

    One thing though (and youll probably get sick of reading it) is that you must get the best grinder that you can afford, even at the expense of the espresso machine in the first instance, but you seem to have already recognised this necessity. I know Kitchenaid are supposed to be reasonably good quality grinders, but a friend of my younger son bought both their top-of-the-line espresso machine and the grinder, only to have the grinder fail catastrophically(motor burnt out) after only a couple of weeks use :o. I know you cant judge the quality of a barrel by the presence of one bad apple but hey, its been many months now and he still hasnt been supplied with a replacement grinder from the Australian importer. To say the least, he is very disappointed with the level of "service :-?" being provided.

    I know the choices are many and the decision is difficult but if you go with one of the well known brands that most owners report satisfaction with, then I guess you can do a lot worse than to go with "this" flow.... All the best,

    Mal.

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    Re: ADVICE PLEASE...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal link=1160037343/0#4 date=1160317604
    If it is primarily for espresso, then a high quality "stepless" grinder like any of the Mazzer Minis/Macap M4/5/La Cimbali Cadet, etc would be great.
    Sorry HFC,

    Ive led you a bit astray here..... the Oz version of the Macap grinders do indeed have steps, although very fine ones, so they would probably be the number one grinder to consider where a wide range of grinding duties is expected. Sorry about that, was just reading a wrap on a US site about the Macaps and forgot that even though they are stepless over there, here they are not :(. All the best,

    Mal.



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