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    Does anyone know anything about the Compak grinders? *I saw a picture on another thread of smallest Compak model (K3 Elite doser, and K3 Touch doserless) and it looks pretty cool (looks arent everything I know, but Im female, what can I say...). *For the price (around $550, apparently) Im wondering whether it falls somewhere in between the Rocky and the Mazzer Mini in quality ??

    Anyone got one, or used one, or know anything about them? *:-?

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    Re: Compak K3 Touch - anyone know anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yulia link=1127994248/0#0 date=1127994248
    Hi :)

    Does anyone know anything about the Compak grinders? For the price (around $550, apparently) Im wondering whether it falls somewhere in between the Rocky and the Mazzer Mini in quality ??

    Anyone got one, or used one, or know anything about them? :-?

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    Hi Yulia,

    From what Ive been able to research on the K3, it seems to be a brand that is supported more in Europe http://tinyurl.com/dqnhv than over in this direction. Bearing that in mind, Id be wary of buying something for this kind of money when well known, well supported brands are available here for similar or less money.... especially from our Sponsors.

    Just my $0.02 worth :)

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    That would be 0.01 Euro worth.

    The site sponsors get quite a few plugs from us CSers. Thats because they deliver the goods. Cant go wrong with them, especially if you have serious questions about equipment.


    My 0.12 Swedish Kronors worth.

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    Okay, point taken. Go with the tried and tested (and supported by site sponsors) ;)

    Still, cant hurt to put the feelers out about potentially up-an-coming brands. *Could be an amazing grinder for all I know! :)

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    PS - just my 0.00862469 Great British Pounds worth

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    Compak seem to be a Spanish company that rebadge their grinders for Wega. All their grinders seem to be commercial quality. The design looks nice, the stepless grind adjustment looks nice, the motor speed is standard 1300 rpm, grinding burrs are reasonable at 54 mm...

    The only concern is the availability of parts ans service. However, since they have an Australian distributer, that shouldnt be too much of a concern. Coffeeparts actually stock the grinding burrs for the larger machines.

    Never the less, they are a relatively unknown machine and so do present some risk with respect to quality of both grind and materials, compared to say the Mazzer or other well loved grinder.

    In fact having "discovered" them myself, it just might be on the top of my list for grinder upgrade...

    their web site is here http://www.compak.es

    If they do represent a serious alternative to the Mazzer grinders, then they represent excellent value for money.

    just my 0.1228 yuen worth.


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    [QUOTE=Metreo link=1127994248/0#6 date=1133073097][QUOTE=Sparky link=1127994248/0#5 date=1128034399]The only concern is the availability of parts ans service. However, since they have an Australian distributer, that shouldnt be too much of a concern.

    their web site is here http://www.compak.es

    If they do represent a serious alternative to the Mazzer grinders, then they represent excellent value for money.

    just my 0.1228 yuen worth.




    I have had a play with the Compak K3 Touch - and it seems very good value for the money - it grinds a pre-determined dose at the touch of the micro switch which is operated once you place your handle along the the guide rails, you touch the switch twice and it doubles the dose of coffee.

    The dose is reasonably easily adjusted - but it does take a few goes to get it right to fit the size of filter basket you have - but once you do it seems to be extremely accurate. The grind adjustment is micrometrical and is a true commercial grinder - it would make a wonderful decaf grinder in a commercial cafe where the trend is to whole bean de-caf.

    For mine it does the same job as a Mazzer Mini Electronic and at around $550 bucks it is nearly half the price.

    ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky link=1127994248/0#5 date=1128034399
    <snip>...

    In fact having "discovered" them myself, it just might be on the top of my list for grinder upgrade...

    their web site is here http://www.compak.es

    If they do represent a serious alternative to the Mazzer grinders, then they represent excellent value for money.

    just my 0.1228 yuen worth.
    I also just discovered them Sparky, and Im sufficiently impressed that Im buying one! I had decided to just go with a Rocky and stop over-thinking :) but I had niggling dissatisfaction with the concept of stepped adjustment (I currently have stepless and like it) and the build quality of some Rockys Id seen (admittedly cosmetic, but still).
    The Compak gives me all the features I want and is closer to the Mini Mazzer end of things, at almost half the price of a doserless MM.
    Ive always been impressed with the quality of Wega machines, and I cant imagine them selling something that isnt good quality (their Instant 5.4 grinder is the K3 Touch), but nonetheless I havent run an ounce of coffee through one of these as yet, so it remains to be seen if my pioneering gets me burnt :) I dont think the risk is large though!

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    Ah well, the experiment didnt quit pay off.

    The Compak is a lovely grinder - well built and the grind quality seems fine. However as a doserless grinder for home use it has a severe design limitation that makes it - for me - effectively useless.
    The outlet chute design has an almost horizontal outlet chute about 4cm long, that basically ensures that no coffee will emerge at all (no gravity assistance, and blockage of the ejected grounds from the burrs) until that chute is packed full top to bottom at which point the coffee extrudes in large square clumps. These clumps are impossible to distribute (at any sort of fine grind setting) without removing the portafilter from the forks multiple times during the dosing and manually breaking things up with your fingers (at coarse enough grinds a shake or two might do it, I dont know).
    This makes the timed dosing feature unusable, and the wastage factor unacceptably high - probably more so than for an appropriately used doser.
    So probably a nice grinder in a commercial setting (although the clumping would still be an issue) but for low-volume home use it doesnt make the grade for me, unfortunately. Back to the drawing board...

    I should emphasise that the distributors have been helpful above and beyond the call of duty in this matter, and Im most grateful to them.

    Dennis

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    Re: Compak K3 Touch - anyone know anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by lennier link=1127994248/0#9 date=1137061569
    Ah well, the experiment didnt quit pay off.

    The Compak is a lovely grinder - well built and the grind quality seems fine. However as a doserless grinder for home use it has a severe design limitation that makes it - for me - effectively useless.
    The outlet chute design has an almost horizontal outlet chute about 4cm long, that basically ensures that no coffee will emerge at all (no gravity assistance, and blockage of the ejected grounds from the burrs) until that chute is packed full top to bottom at which point the coffee extrudes in large square clumps. These clumps are impossible to distribute (at any sort of fine grind setting) without removing the portafilter from the forks multiple times during the dosing and manually breaking things up with your fingers (at coarse enough grinds a shake or two might do it, I dont know).
    This makes the timed dosing feature unusable, and the wastage factor unacceptably high - probably more so than for an appropriately used doser.
    So probably a nice grinder in a commercial setting (although the clumping would still be an issue) but for low-volume home use it doesnt make the grade for me, unfortunately. Back to the drawing board...

    I should emphasise that the distributors have been helpful above and beyond the call of duty in this matter, and Im most grateful to them.

    Dennis
    Dennis, are you speaking from experience having used this model or taking an educated guess? I too am looking at the K3 for home use. Price is right and like our original threader I think it looks good too, so looks is not a girl thing but a style thing. They are imported by Diamond C Services in Fairfield. BTW, Compak have been in business since 1952 so they should know a thing or two about grinders.

    http://www.diamond-c.com.au/home.html

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    Re: Compak K3 Touch - anyone know anything?

    Speaking from experience, I bought one and ended up returning it. Michael at Diamond C was helpful above and beyond, and I bought a Mazzer in the end.
    They do know their grinders, so its no reflection on them, but this is a new model and the shortcomings I saw really only apply to a home market, which of course they arent really intended for.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Compak K3 Touch - anyone know anything?

    I have just been to Fine Food Fair in Melbourne and visited Diamond C Services stand.

    They are promoting quite a few of their espresso machines and in particular the Compak Range of Grinders - I spoke to Alfredo Lazcano the International Export Manager form Compak and he demonstrated the new version Compak K3 Touch - it completely addresses all the previous issues that people raised about clumping and extruding coffee - they have redesigned the chute and it has more of a drop and he demonstrated it grinding directly in the handle without mess or waste and not static - Mazzer Mini Electronic beware. Especially since Mazzer cant seem to get any stock into Australia lately.

    He said they should be able to get stock to Diamond C in a few weeks.

    Also really impressed with the Compak K10 Conical - World Barista Specification as well - very powerful/quiet and low RPMs.

    If anyone is in Melbourne suggest they get to the Fine Food Fair and have a look - also plenty of other coffee companies and equipmetn on display.

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    I saw a doser model of the K3 on the shelf at St.Ali, but not sure if the doserless version is in store for people to have a look at. Best to email.
    http://web.mac.com/triclops3/iWeb/Site/Blog/43FFE42F-654F-4689-92EE-22494ECAF2D7.html

    http://stali.com.au/

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    Yeah, weve been looking at the K3 for the new Veneziano store. Running them through their paces now. Should be a good accompaniment to Daves machine. Looks like Compak did a sunbeam and tested out the first lot on unsuspecting customers ;P

    The K10 is pretty nice. Its sort of half-way between a Robur and a Kony. Mark put one into St Ali as his single origin grinder. Its nice to see a viable option to the mazzers around; you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be a price increase for them this year!

    What Im really looking forward to is the new spout for the brasilia competition grinder. Did someone say doserless version of the robur with no mess and a better adjustment system?

    Exciting stuff ...

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    Thats really good to hear that theyve taken the feedback on board and improved things. At the price I think it will be a pretty unbeatable doserless grinder in the absence of the clumping and extruding problems.
    Well done Compak!

    Dennis

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    Sooo, can anyone confirm that the modifications were successful and the K3 Touch is now a great option instead of the Mini M for home use?

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    Ive got both of them on my bench at home and personally I prefer the Mini over the K3T. I feel that the K3T still has the clumping problem, while (after simple mods) the Mini is a great home grinder.

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    Bought my K3 Elite from Jason at Pioneer. Matched up with the Sylvia and Im one very happy chappy!!! :) :)
    Had the Sunbeam emo480 before and no comparison (for me).
    Jason was saying that basically the K3 should last a lifetime ... or as good as. Chose this over the Rocky and the mini mazzer.
    Not too big for the bench top and fairly quiet to operate.


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    Ive been using my K3 Touch with a Silvia for the last few weeks now and Im extremely impressed with it, and I cant say Ive experienced any clumping issues yet.

    I was also using the EM0480 previously and I agree, there is just no comparison. This is a seriously good machine and is excellent value at the price.

    Many thanks to Chris at Talk Coffee in recommending and supplying it.

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    Ive been using my K3T for around a month or two (from DiBartoli) and love it to bits. No clumping in my experience. Looks great in textured glossy black finish too.

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    Re: Compak K3 Touch - anyone know anything?

    Does anyone know if the K3T still has problems with grinds getting caught in the outlet chute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregJW link=1127994248/20#20 date=1218973724
    Does anyone know if the K3T still has problems with grinds getting caught in the outlet chute?
    Hi Greg,

    Every grinder will retain some ground coffee in the grinder chute. The design of the K3T was revised quite some time ago. Its no worse than the Macap/Mazzers and is the category killer in the $500 price bracket.

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    Thanks Chris,

    Definitely does appear to be the "value for money" option in the quality domestic doserless category. Any down side to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregJW link=1127994248/20#22 date=1218974582
    Thanks Chris,

    Definitely does appear to be the "value for money" option in the quality domestic doserless category. Any down side to it?

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    Yes Greg,

    As per my review in the grinder reviews, setting time is fiddly and the adjustment is pretty coarse.

    My suggestion is to use it as a manual grinder- The power switch is a rocker with one direction timed and the other permanently on.

    For me, its a bit irritating as the switch is on the left of the grinder and I hold the p/f in my left hand....By no means the end of the world though. This grinder plays well above its price height ;)

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    Thanks again Chris.

    I just had another read of your review, as well as Gregs review of the K3 (Elite) v Mazzer Mini (ignoring the doser bits). From that it would appear its on a par with the MM, certainly in respect of grind quality, let down a bit though by grind adjustment and ease of cleaning.

    Point taken re the timer function. I dont think using as a manual doserless grinder would worry me at all.

    Might try and get in to town (Sydney town, sorry Chris) and have a play on one at Di Bartoli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregJW link=1127994248/20#24 date=1218976295
    Thanks again Chris.

    I just had another read of your review, as well as Gregs review of the K3 (Elite) v Mazzer Mini (ignoring the doser bits). From that it would appear its on a par with the MM, certainly in respect of grind quality, let down a bit though by grind adjustment and ease of cleaning.

    Point taken re the timer function. I dont think using as a manual doserless grinder would worry me at all.

    Might try and get in to town (Sydney town, sorry Chris) and have a play on one at Di Bartoli.

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    Good luck Greg :-/

    My ear to the ground informs that you will not find one in Oz until the boat docks (maybe this week)....Ill be driving up to collect ours so as to get them to those waitiong ASAP....there will be a few spares...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee link=1127994248/20#25 date=1218976995
    Quote Originally Posted by GregJW link=1127994248/20#24 date=1218976295
    Thanks again Chris.

    I just had another read of your review, as well as Gregs review of the K3 (Elite) v Mazzer Mini (ignoring the doser bits). From that it would appear its on a par with the MM, certainly in respect of grind quality, let down a bit though by grind adjustment and ease of cleaning.

    Point taken re the timer function. I dont think using as a manual doserless grinder would worry me at all.

    Might try and get in to town (Sydney town, sorry Chris) and have a play on one at Di Bartoli.

    Greg
    Good luck Greg :-/

    My ear to the ground informs that you will not find one in Oz until the boat docks (maybe this week)....Ill be driving up to collect ours so as to get them to those waitiong ASAP....there will be a few spares...

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    Why dont you get TNT to pick them up and send them down to you? ::)

    (Sorry Chris - poor taste.) ;D ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Gene link=1127994248/0#16 date=1217901609
    Ive got both of them on my bench at home and personally I prefer the Mini over the K3T. I feel that the K3T still has the clumping problem, while (after simple mods) the Mini is a great home grinder.
    This is great info as I have both these machines on my shopping list.

    Although Im not sure I would be happy with a doser as I only make around 4 - 5 coffees a day and would possibly find the cleaning up of the dregs in the doser a bit of an extra chore as well as wasteful...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gronk62 link=1127994248/20#27 date=1219301400
    Although Im not sure I would be happy with a doser as I only make around 4 - 5 coffees a day and would possibly find the cleaning up of the dregs in the doser a bit of an extra chore as well as wasteful...
    All it takes is a little training!

    Baristi in competition pretty much all use big conicals with dosing chambers- such as the K10 and the Robur. They make only 12 coffees and you know what :-? ...they can do it with pretty much zero waste ;)

    Dregs? I pulse the first couple of seconds and ditch it- then grind away and I reckon if your palate is good enough to pick the contribution of perhaps the tiniest bit of old stuff in a freshly ground shot, then you should be entering the cupping competition!

    Many at home forget that a doser is often a bonus- attending to any static and clumping and for me, when its cleaning time, I take to mine with the vacuum cleaner. I also have the opportunity to multitask if/when I do have a bunch of people to make coffee for.

    We dont all have to emulate dodgy cafes and have a doser full of stale stuff. You can just use a soder as appropriate.

    Sometimes I think CSers can put process over outcome! Try both, learn the skills and your choices improve dramatically...

    I have a Macap M4D and a Compak K10 and love them both- albeit for different reasons...

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    ???

    Is there something cryptic in this Chris, or is it just you using the doser in a different way?

    Cheers

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    Geez I wish my piggy bank was a bit fuller.
    Theres a four day old Mazzer mini in the for sale section for 600 bucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilMac link=1127994248/20#29 date=1219308082
    soder
    ???

    Is there something cryptic in this Chris, or is it just you using the doser in a different way?

    Cheers
    I had a laugh - "doser"

    Sometimes he types so saft the keybroad cant keep up with him! ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis link=1127994248/20#31 date=1219308403
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilMac link=1127994248/20#29 date=1219308082
    soder
    ???

    Is there something cryptic in this Chris, or is it just you using the doser in a different way?

    Cheers
    I had a laugh - "doser"

    Sometimes he types so saft the keybroad cant keep up with him! *;D
    I have dyslexic fingers *:-[ I call it typolexia*;D

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    Reviews:
    Comparing to Mazzer Mini:
    http://www.sweetmarias.com/compak_espressoK3/Compak_details_page.php

    Comparing to Macap to some degree:
    http://www.sweetmarias.com/compak_espressoK3/Compak_details_page.php



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