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    Hi i have a mum that cant stand me taking up her precious bench space. When i brought home my Silvia and put in the kitchen she nearly had a fit at its size.
    Now i need a good grinder that will do the silvia justice. the rocky looks BIG too me and on the expensive side. any other recommendations????

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatBoy link=1154502795/0#0 date=1154502794
    Hi i have a mum that cant stand me taking up her precious bench space. When i brought home my Silvia and put in the kitchen she nearly had a fit at its size.
    Now i need a good grinder that will do the silvia justice. the rocky looks BIG too me and on the expensive side. any other recommendations????
    If it has to be small, Id suggest the Iberital Challenge. Attilio of Cosmorex (Fresh_Coffee) can look after you with great service and a fair price...

    Hope this helps...

    2mcm

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    The Sunbeam em480 is on the small size as well as a reasonable price - I paid $165 for mine.

    Alternatively, buy the Rocky and a small bar fridge for your milk and set the whole thing up in your room. If your mum doesnt want to share the bench space, she probably wont be happy with the mess that a grinder makes either. ;)

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by Viviane link=1154502795/0#2 date=1154508228
    The Sunbeam em480 is on the small size as well as a reasonable price - I paid $165 for mine.

    Alternatively, buy the Rocky and a small bar fridge for your milk and set the whole thing up in your room. * If your mum doesnt want to share the bench space, she probably wont be happy with the mess that a grinder makes either. *;)
    I think that the adjustability of the Ibreital more justifies the extra spend- the Sunbeam is known to have pretty large steps. I guess that if your mum has an issue with the machine, you wont need to make her a coffee as shed have to have an issue with consumption of the products of the machine as well?? *:P ;D

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    The Nuova Simonelli MDF is probably the smallest grinder mentioned yet. It doesnt get much press, but it is a very good grinder. Stepless adjustment, grind quality probably on par with the Mazzer Mini and a doser that sweeps very clean. The only thing is that it has small burrs and, so, grinds very slowly. And it tends to be priced in the same ballpark as the mazzer mini.

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    Yeah, the MDF is just too expensive to justify here in Australia. It would be an extravagance to buy one of these and Im surprised that anyone ever does.

    Greg

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    Luca,

    Do you have any experience with the Eureka MCI (essentially a doserless and rebadged version of the Nuovo Simonelli MCF)?

    It is a small grinder and wondering if it is similar to the NS MDF you mentioned?

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by PhatBoy link=1154502795/0#0 date=1154502794
    the rocky looks BIG too me and on the expensive side. any other recommendations????

    PhatBoy,

    A few months ago I looked high and low for a decent espresso grinder that is smaller than the Rocky but couldnt really find anything except for the Sunbeam EM480.

    The Iberital was my next choice but it looks physically larger due to the overall taller height.

    The "smallest" quality grinder remains to be the Rancilio Rocky doserless. Sorry, there really isnt anything out there that is smaller and cheaper and high quality.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tempestv8 link=1154502795/0#7 date=1181187956
    Quote Originally Posted by PhatBoy link=1154502795/0#0 date=1154502794
    the rocky looks BIG too me and on the expensive side. any other recommendations????

    PhatBoy,

    A few months ago I looked high and low for a decent espresso grinder that is smaller than the Rocky but couldnt really find anything except for the Sunbeam EM480.

    The Iberital was my next choice but it looks physically larger due to the overall taller height.

    The "smallest" quality grinder remains to be the Rancilio Rocky doserless. *Sorry, there really isnt anything out there that is smaller and cheaper and high quality.


    Lawrance
    The ECM KS is better and on a small footprint as well. Way better ergonomics, adjustability and grind consistency....I have a cheapie for sale ;)

    2mcm

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    If the Rocky is on the expensive side for Phatboy, the ECM KS will be well and truly more than what he is prepared to pay for a grinder.

    However, if you discount any product deeply enough, theres always a good chance that it becomes attractive enough to make the transaction. ;)


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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    Hi all,

    We have been playing around with the Ascaso i2 conical for the last few weeks, which might be of interest, so I thought that Id upload a bit of a spiel on it to the grinder thread: click here. Long story short; we liked the doserless model and have added it to our range, but felt that the doser wasnt of great quality and wont be stocking that. The i2s come in a variety of colours and unfortunately my attempts to display a bunch of them together have been frustrated by people buying them ;P

    Cheers,

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    Noice - looks a lot like someone took a challenge and dressed it up. . .

    How does it compare in the decibel stakes with the Challenge?

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    Hey Luca,

    How did you get the grinder in the picture to fill the porta filter and not waste any grind in the chute? Also, I like how learn how to levitate the PF to the grinder without using hands. ;)

    Seriously though, it looks good.

    Does it come in other colours?

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    im also curious. Ive heard that these have a metal burr carrier unlike the iberital plastic one. also the grinder throat looks to be wider then the iberital. bigger burrs? =better and faster grind?

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

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    If you follow the link Luca included above - there is a full description of the grinder....

    From that the burr carrier is plastic.

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    Its a pretty tough form of plastic though (nothing like the SB stuff), I believe it is made from a phenolic resin from something I read elsewhere,

    Mal.

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by kaanage link=1154502795/0#5 date=1155092225
    Yeah, the MDF is just too expensive to justify here in Australia. It would be an extravagance to buy one of these and Im surprised that anyone ever does.

    Greg

    ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    I hope you are being sarcastic ;D ;D ;D ;D

    Obviously you havent priced a mazzer mini lately ;D ;D ;D ;D

    The truth is that an Gaggia MDF is smaller than the challenge


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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by yorgous link=1154502795/0#6 date=1180852885
    Do you have any experience with the Eureka MCI (essentially a doserless and rebadged version of the Nuovo Simonelli MCF)?

    It is a small grinder and wondering if it is similar to the NS MDF you mentioned?
    Luca was actually referring to the MCF - he got the model name mixed up and I continued with it (its mine that he has played with)

    Quote Originally Posted by lucinda link=1154502795/15#16 date=1181284110
    I hope you are being sarcastic ;D ;D ;D ;D

    Obviously you havent priced a mazzer mini lately ;D ;D ;D ;D

    The truth is that an Gaggia MDF is smaller than the challenge
    Sorry, we got tyhe model name wrong as explained above.

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    So is there really a consensus here?

    Or are there a number to choose from?

    I four major issues,

    Size (being smallest)

    Noise level

    grind quality

    and price.

    Is there a small grinder that is awesome in those 4 categories ? (price being lower not higher)

    I still say GO PIES.

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    Coastal Coffee...

    A consensus on the best grinder (small or otherwise) - NO

    What your asking is similar to "Is there a consensus on the best AFL team in Australia".... well there are lots of ways to establish that - each will no doubt give a different answer.... and they will all probably be correct (at least in some peoples eyes).

    Basically, just like your football team, you make up your own mind - having sifted through as many "facts" as you can, check them out yourself.... and be happy with your choice....

    You like the Pies, I like the WCE..... is either better .... well in our eyes one is - a different one for both of us!

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    I suppose my challenge is that I inherently see things

    in Black and White!

    There has gotta be one that stands out though

    (grinder I mean),

    because the footy one is so obvious!!!! ;)

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    Rephrase the question then?

    Quiet,

    Small,

    espresso and plunger,

    money not really an issue( lets not be silly here?)

    though sound and size is !

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    Well,

    My vote:

    Rocky..... stepped so easily adjustable, small steps so easily tracks beans ageing when grinding for espresso, fairly quiet, reliable and not that big.

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    thanks,

    we have a start.

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    The smallest entry level espresso grinder would be the Nemox Lux (can be had on special for $210), followed by the Sunbeam EM480 ($180 ish) then the Rancilio Rocky (sub $400) and then the Iberital Challenge, being the tallest (circa $280).

    Hope this helps!



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    Quote Originally Posted by tempestv8 link=1154502795/15#24 date=1181893072
    The smallest entry level espresso grinder would be the Nemox Lux (can be had on special for $210), followed by the Sunbeam EM480 ($180 ish) then the Rancilio Rocky (sub $400) and then the Iberital Challenge, being the tallest (circa $280).

    Hope this helps!

    And would the Isomac rate in any of this?

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    okay all those small grinders suggested make one hell of a noise when grinding!

    I guess we should throw the Iscaso grinder stocked my Veneziano in to the mix....I pulled some shots with it and Id rate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes link=1154502795/15#26 date=1181894611
    okay all those small grinders suggested make one hell of a noise when grinding!

    I guess we should throw the Iscaso grinder stocked my Veneziano in to the mix....I pulled some shots with it and Id rate it.
    We have the i1 grinder in at the moment, just for kicks. This one has a metal burr carrier and flat burrs, with the same stepless adjustment mechanism. It will be fun to pull some shots with it tomorrow!

    Cheers,

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    ohhhhh interesting....*twiddles thumbs*

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    hmmmmmmmmm should we get excited ???????

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    only if you want to pay the best part of $500 (or more!) ;)

    Is this one doserless too Luca?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis link=1154502795/15#25 date=1181893517

    And would the Isomac rate in any of this?
    Isomac would be another small grinder to consider if price was no object.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes link=1154502795/30#30 date=1181901085
    only if you want to pay the best part of $500 (or more!) ;)

    Is this one doserless too Luca?
    Its not more than $500! I think that the i1 is intended to be a Rocky competitor. Which is interesting because for the Compak range, Ascaso built grinders that had smaller burrs than the equivalent competitors, whereas for this they seem to have gone for larger burrs. But I gather that the burr size might have increased over the years, just as the K3s burr size seems to have been bumped up to make it more credible against the mazzer mini. Maybe the answer is in the motor. Who knows? Well find out tomorrow, hopefully. Im not on at First Pour - Ill be studying for exams, but James has directions to fool around with it.

    Yep, we got a doserless i1. The doser seems a bit plasticky at first blush. But who knows; maybe someone higher up the totem pole will decide to buy one of those for kicks, too ;P

    Anyhoo, Id best get back to the books - procrastination is addictive ;P

    Cheers,

    Luca

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    Quote Originally Posted by tempestv8 link=1154502795/30#31 date=1181902853
    Isomac would be another small grinder to consider if price was no object.
    I thought the small Isomac grinders (Gran Maccinino & Macinino Prof Inox) were simply a rebodied Lux at rather higher price. Or is another model being discussed?

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    Re: Best Small Size Grinder

    So Luca, Chris, anyone,

    as i use french press at home as well espresso the compak k3 touch would be the better suited

    grinder other than the Ascaso i2, would that be right?

    Craig.

    I suppose i want the best results from the smallest grinder, but if i have to go larger i will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coastal coffee link=1154502795/30#34 date=1182217754
    So Luca, Chris, anyone,

    as i use french press at home as well espresso the compak k3 touch would be the better suited

    grinder other than the Ascaso i2, would that be right?

    Craig.

    I suppose i want the best results from the smallest grinder, but if i have to go larger i will.
    Hi Craig- if you want doserless and micrometric (in champagne), go the K3T. It has settable timer function for a single or double (which incidentally I have never been able to get just right :-/). Flicking the power (rocker) switch the other way allows for always on if you wish to pulse to top up.

    Another great option- though more expensive- is the Macam MC4- their doserless deli grinder...

    Chris

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    Yep, its not really practical to switch between espresso and french press with any grinder that has a worm drive adjustment. The K3T is the cheapest grinder that I know of that will allow you to do that with stepless adjustment (actually, I havent played around with adjusting it for FP, but I presume that there would be no problems). Other than that, youre pretty much looking at a dosered mazzer, a mini E or a compak.

    It would be nice to have the ultimate grinder that did a fantastic job at everything with a tiny footprint, rock-solid construction, fast grind speed, clean operation and low price, but to say that it exists would be a lie.

    Cheers,

    Luca

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    Thanks for all your advice,

    If your down this way pop in and say hi!



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