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    I havent got a grinder yet, but am already thinking of the grinding process.

    Lets say Ive bought a kilo of ground coffee from the shops and I find that the grind is too coarse.

    Can I tip this grind into the hopper of a grinder and regrind it to a finer grade?

    As a second part to this question, if that particular grinder is already set to grind whole beans to a certain level of grind, will putting in ground coffee now yield a result that is too fine, or will that calibration still yield the same level of grind size? Hope this second question makes sense.... :D


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    Quote Originally Posted by tempestv8 link=1176764913/0#0 date=1176764913
    I havent got a grinder yet, but am already thinking of the grinding process.

    Lets say Ive bought a kilo of ground coffee from the shops and I find that the grind is too coarse.

    Can I tip this grind into the hopper of a grinder and regrind it to a finer grade?

    As a second part to this question, if that particular grinder is already set to grind whole beans to a certain level of grind, will putting in ground coffee now yield a result that is too fine, or will that calibration still yield the same level of grind size? *Hope this second question makes sense.... * :D
    NEVER put ground coffee back into a hopper- unless you want the service department to be your best buddies....

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    tempestv8....

    As Chris says above NEVER...... NEVER EVER.....whole beans only!

    But you only grind what you need as you need it in any case.... ground coffee has a "life" of 3 minutes..... so after 3 minute just throw all the coffee you have ground - and not used - into the bin (even if it is the correct grind) - not back into the hopper.....

    And if you buy a kilo of ground coffee from a shop (unless you live next to it - within 3 minutes that is)..... save yourself the time and effort and just take your money and burn it!! The coffee will be stale before you get home..... and even if you could regrind - it wont be fresh again.

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    Gulp! * Im glad I asked the question. *I thought it was going to be a stupid question but I guess not! *:o

    Thanks again guys. *Im hoping that my questions will also be of help to other newbies. * ;)
    And I think that the second question that I posed in the start of this thread is now a moot point. ::)




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    Just to elaborate one more step.

    The reason you NEVER regrind grinds, is that the grinds are, because they have already been ground, far more DENSE than beans are (ie a lot more more weight per volume/area or some such thing).

    So if you tip a heap of grinds down into a coffee (BEAN) grinder, the end effect is the motor isnt strong enough (not enough torque) to continue turning against the grinds and is immediately jammed up, in all probability burning out the windings.

    If you burn out the motor on a regular domestic or cafe sized grinder, you just throw it away and buy another one as it really isnt worth the cost of repair.

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    Just to close out on this thread, I managed to get my hands on the Rancilio Rockys user manual.

    Yeah, I know, its a bit geeky to pore through the user manual, but I have always done that even with the cars that Ive bought, i.e. go into car dealer, request for user manual, then sit down and read from cover to cover over free coffee that they serve. *I bet they dont see a lot of other customers doing that.

    Anyway, I digress. *On page 31 of the Rocky manual, it says in bold not to put ground coffee into the hopper.

    Well, that answers my question sufficiently. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by tempestv8 link=1176764913/0#5 date=1177028583
    Well, that answers my question sufficiently. :D
    Not to put too fine a point on it but this is the advice that has been offered above already by several professionals and experienced amateurs alike :-?

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    Thanks FC for stating the reasons. Ive heard the same advice but have never known exactly why, and understanding the reasons makes the advice a lot more common sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by JavaB link=1176764913/0#2 date=1176773960
    And if you buy a kilo of ground coffee from a shop (unless you live next to it - within 3 minutes that is)..... save yourself the time and effort and just take your money and burn it!!
    Alternatively, you can send it to me ;)

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    Youre welcome Greg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tempestv8 link=1176764913/0#0 date=1176764913
    Lets say Ive bought a kilo of ground coffee from the shops and I find that the grind is too coarse.
    Why would one buy ground coffee if they have a grinder at home?!

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    Re: Can grinders regrind coffee thats already gro

    At the time of asking this question, I had lots of supermarket coffee at home (still do!) which is too coarse for an espresso machine.

    And I had not yet purchased a grinder. So it was a pre-emptive question.

    But even if I did have a grinder, sometimes (ground) coffee comes my way in the form of presents, gifts, etc.


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    It takes a while to train family and friends out of gifting you with coffee. Years in many cases even.

    To speed up that training what seems to work best is supplying your fresh roasted coffee for the pot at all gatherings and the gifting of your fresh roasted coffee at Christmas and other occassions. After a year or two even the most dense will usually get the point. ;)


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    Problem Ive had with giving coffee as a gift is you also need to educate people that it does NOT have an indefinite lifespan.

    I gave some people some coffee around August 06. I got offerred some of the very same coffee about Feb 07.

    I told them it doesnt really last that long. Throw it out. Ill gladly give you some more.

    "Oh no.. this is still good".

    Arggggg.

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    Fatboy - some people like to treasure the gift - or because it is so nice they save it for special occasions.

    I only give my home roasted to people who understand that it has to be drunk straight away.

    I find the most difficult is educating them NOT to keep it in the fridge or frezer as i supply it in a one way sealed pack. They just dont get that I may know what I am talking about.

    It just takes time and patience.

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    Those are indeed problems with the gifting of coffee. Ive told people time and time again to use it with-in two weeks and even put it on the label (along with the roasting date of course) and have still had it offered to me more than a year after it had been roasted!

    Educating people and breaking them of their habits is a hard thing to do. Keep at it though as theyll thank you in the end! Either that or theyll curse you for making them incapable of drinking anything else! ;D


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    Quote Originally Posted by lucinda link=1176764913/0#13 date=1178590895
    They just dont get that I may know what I am talking about.

    It just takes time and patience.
    Ahhh, Im used to that..... My lovely wife has never believed that I know what Im talking about :-?, but she always asks me (eventually) to help her fix some problem or another thats shes confronted with. Of course, I get no credit for any assistance offered and provided ::),

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    OK, you guys have convinced me - Im going to raid the pantry for all those "vacuum sealed freshly ground coffee" gifts and just throw them all into the bin. * ;D


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    Re: Can grinders regrind coffee thats already gro

    Or you could give them to someone you dont like.

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    Re: Can grinders regrind coffee thats already gro

    Or save them for guests that you dont really like :P

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    Or use them for compost. :)


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    Re: Can grinders regrind coffee thats already gro

    Or use a bit now and then to make you appreciate good coffee.

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    Narr, just toss it.

    Instant "coffee" is what you need to make you appreciate real coffee.

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    Or for revenge on friends / relies who try to serve you instant when you visit them......

    Serve them the old preground when they come over (use fresh grinds for your own coffees ;))...... they will probably think its good :-/ :P

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    Or pour your coffee first then recycle the puck for them ;D ;D ;D

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    Sadists! * :D ;D :)



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