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    Mazzer v Macap

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    I dont recall seeing a lot of macap vs mazzer threads.

    Theyre both good so no real argument to be had.

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    Re: Giotto or Silvia

    What are the main influence that people choose mazzer over macap or macap over mazzer?
    Do people just choose it by looks or is there something else to it?
    Though the doser on the mazzer looks more robust but hear things that the macap can sweep very clean.

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    Re: Giotto or Silvia

    There are quite a few M v M reviews on home barista, CoffeeGeeks.

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    Re: Giotto or Silvia

    It could come down to availability sometimes.

    My Macap could sweep a little cleaner if I had my druthers.

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    Re: Giotto or Silvia

    If I were starting all over, with not a single piece of equipment, all available funds would go to getting a good grinder. I may never buy another espresso machine after my old Faema falls over, being quite happy to brew in an aeropress of vacpot...or anything at all really, except a percolator.

    But you can never have a good enough grinder. This is one of the few certainties in life.

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    Re: Giotto or Silvia

    From Page 1 of this thread mod edit- now split away. Regarding: ".....I dont like Macaps...they run so goddam hot I burnt my hand on a Macap...much hotter than Mazzers...inconsequential at home I know......"

    Late to this topic but better late than never, and this comment really needs a follow up.

    Readers please note, ALL BRAND GRINDERS WILL OVERHEAT, depending on the throughput of coffee. You cannot compare BRANDS in that way, you have to put the right model grinders in the right situations (ie the capacity of the model must suit the throughput expected).

    If a particular macap overheated in a particular situatiuon, the "fix" is you place a larger capacity macap in there. It is an incorrect fix to replace one BRAND of grinder with another, where the replacement machine from the other brand obviously has a larger capacity and therefore does not overheat in the same situation...........

    Additionally, grinders with worn grinding plates overheat much more quickly, than grinders with newer plates fitted...so depends on the cycle of wear. ALL BRAND GRINDERS HAVE GRINDING PLATES THAT WEAR, THEN OVERHEAT MORE QUICKLY AS A CONSEQUENCE.

    Most BRANDS have a range of models to suit different situations from small to heavy duty, and we have Macaps that easily handle a throughput of 10 kilos *a day, where most of those kilos are done in around 5 of those 8 hours in the day.


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    Re: Giotto or Silvia

    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh_Coffee link=1184990768/15#21 date=1185954448
    From Page 1 of this thread. Regarding: ".....I dont like Macaps...they run so goddam hot I burnt my hand on a Macap...much hotter than Mazzers...inconsequential at home I know......"

    Late to this topic but better late than never, and this comment really needs a follow up.

    Readers please note, ALL BRAND GRINDERS WILL OVERHEAT, depending on the throughput of coffee. You cannot compare BRANDS in that way, you have to put the right model grinders in the right situations (ie the capacity of the model must suit the throughput expected).

    If a particular macap overheated in a particular situatiuon, the "fix" is you place a larger capacity macap in there. It is an incorrect fix to replace one BRAND of grinder with another, where the replacement machine from the other brand obviously has a larger capacity and therefore does not overheat in the same situation...........

    Additionally, grinders with worn grinding plates overheat much more quickly, than grinders with newer plates fitted...so depends on the cycle of wear. ALL BRAND GRINDERS HAVE GRINDING PLATES THAT WEAR, THEN OVERHEAT MORE QUICKLY AS A CONSEQUENCE.

    Most BRANDS have a range of models to suit different situations from small to heavy duty, and we have Macaps that easily handle a throughput of 10 kilos a day, where most of those kilos are done in around 5 of those 8 hours in the day.


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    Ive worked at a place that did 120kg a week that had Macaps...the largest flat burr model. Burnt my hand

    Then I moved to a place that did 100ish kilos a week...20kg isnt that much of a difference when were talking MASSIVE volume like that...considering it didnt open weekends. Had Roburs...and yes they heated up significantly (which had its own ramifications)...but no where near hot enough to burn my hand....maybe a more even match would be a Major.

    FC, I realise you stock Macaps and probably feel like you have to defend your product. It is only my opinion that any of the flat burr Macap grinders have no place in high volume espresso bars....granted I havent used any of their conicals....yet. In the home however, theyre a superior machine and up with the likes of Mazzer and Compak for grinder king of the home barista hill.

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    Re: Giotto or Silvia

    I cant see that any of us here would or should be concerned about burning our hands on our domestic grinders. (With the possible exception of JavaB when Mrs JavaB calls round the Tuesday book club ladies and he has to cater for the horde)


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    Re: Mazzer v Macap

    FC, I realise you stock Macaps and probably feel like you have to defend your product. It is only my opinion that any of the flat burr Macap grinders have no place in high volume espresso bars....granted I havent used any of their conicals....yet. In the home however, theyre a superior machine and up with the likes of Mazzer and Compak for grinder king of the home barista hill.
    Therein lies the problem David. Its patently unfair to compare a flat blade anything with a conical Robur/Compak/Whatever....

    If youre gonna do it, it has to be apples with apples. If you cooked the flat blade grinder it would have happened with any comparable flat blade grinder.

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    Re: Mazzer v Macap

    I like Mazzer better because I am very confused about how to pronounce "Macap." :-?

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    Re: Mazzer v Macap

    So is Mazzer pronounced Maz-zer or Mat-za (like pizza is pronounced pete-za)?

    Macap is easy - Shy-nee huhuhuhuhuh!

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    Re: Mazzer v Macap

    Chris,

    many thanks for simplifying "the point" greatly.

    and for all you Italian 101 students....

    Jim,
    pronounce as spelled and using Italian pronunciation that would simply be,"....... Mu-Cup"!


    fatboy,
    if you call these grinders Mat-Za when you are speaking to someone from their mother country, they will think you are talking about a commion garden "mattock"!!!!!!!

    so, pronounce them "mud-zer", and they will know what you mean!

    Remember, in their language the "a" is pronounced as we would pronounce the "u" as in cup, not as in "ewe".

    ok italian 101 over for now!

    Regardz,
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    Re: Mazzer v Macap

    Grazie

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    prego!

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    Re: Mazzer v Macap

    As it turns out, I guess I didnt know how to pronounce either of them. Thanks for educating me!

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    Re: Mazzer v Macap

    This is exactly what I warned against, But no, you just HAD to start...



    then again I do suppose Im not entirely blameless either I had a laugh

    Quote Originally Posted by MachoSilvia link=1184990768/15#15 date=1185438677

    I had a laugh we wont go into the "macap vs mazzer" argument... too many of those threads as it is!

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    Re: Mazzer v Macap

    Quote Originally Posted by PIDKits link=1185442746/0#14 date=1186117272
    As it turns out, I guess I didnt know how to pronounce either of them. *Thanks for educating me!

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